26 minutes ago, rpfc said:

2 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Nothing like reposting a bunch of MAGA accounts to back up your argument 🙄

Don’t like Bad Bunny’s music? Fine

But he’s the most streamed artist in the world coming off a massive Grammy win, so clearly there are a lot of people who enjoyed it

And for what it’s worth, most of these people hating on him and his performance are doing it for reasons that I won’t elaborate on here (but that anyone not wearing a big red cap can probably figure out)

PS - dread to think what your For You feed looks like with posts like that Dazzle

The only musician that can compete with Bad Bunny for popularity is Taylor Swift.

No one else comes anywhere close to his streaming numbers, record sales and ticket sales.

23 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Anyone listing a random bunch of anonymous X users is starting off on the losing side of any argument.

The HT show was fine. It probably was pretty awesome for the segment of the population that the NFL were targeting in an attempt to boost ratings and profits.

Ratings for the NFL half time show isnt the issue and never has been. You’ll get worldwide viewers regardless.

Picking the right artists for those audiences is another thing.

They missed the mark with Bad Bunny, he was god awful. I didnt mind Kid Rock personally.

9 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Nothing like reposting a bunch of MAGA accounts to back up your argument 🙄

Don’t like Bad Bunny’s music? Fine

But he’s the most streamed artist in the world coming off a massive Grammy win, so clearly there are a lot of people who enjoyed it

And for what it’s worth, most of these people hating on him and his performance are doing it for reasons that I won’t elaborate on here (but that anyone not wearing a big red cap can probably figure out)

PS - dread to think what your For You feed looks like with posts like that Dazzle

Your last part makes zero sense whatsoever.

The half time show was trending on X so of course people are going to read up on the comments. American and Australian media have tendency to use X as a social media platform to gain an audiences response snd critic.

My opinion or criticism on his performance has absolutely nothing to do with whatever this person has gotten up to on his personal life.

I couldn't give too hoots honestly what he does behind the scenes.. I am judging purely based on his performance and it was awful.

Grammy winner lol? America is scraping at the bottom of the barrel if he was a former Grammy award winner.

30 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Ratings for the NFL half time show isnt the issue and never has been. You’ll get worldwide viewers regardless.

Picking the right artists for those audiences is another thing.

They missed the mark with Bad Bunny, he was god awful. I didnt mind Kid Rock personally.

Your last part makes zero sense whatsoever.

The half time show was trending on X so of course people are going to read up on the comments. American and Australian media have tendency to use X as a social media platform to gain an audiences response snd critic.

My opinion or criticism on his performance has absolutely nothing to do with whatever this person has gotten up to on his personal life.

I couldn't give too hoots honestly what he does behind the scenes.. I am judging purely based on his performance and it was awful.

Grammy winner lol? America is scraping at the bottom of the barrel if he was a former Grammy award winner.

Ratings for watching NFL amongst Hispanics is what I meant. It is a growth area and the NFL only cares about market share, future profits, etc

Um...just had a look.

My view...

It was pretty good.

Would I buy the music? no...

Would I stream the music? no...

Would I watch again? probably not...

...but it was good viewing.

I like the NFL, it ties in nicely with the AFL season, meaning there’s football of some kind all year round. Most of the playoffs this year were incredible to watch and I just love how there’s no second chance saloon for any team once January hits.

But, today’s spectacle was an absolute snooze fest. Definitely wouldn’t have won many casual fans over. About as interesting as a 2 hour long Simon Goodwin press conference.

1 minute ago, Bang Bang Bang said:

I like the NFL, it ties in nicely with the AFL season, meaning there’s football of some kind all year round. Most of the playoffs this year were incredible to watch and I just love how there’s no second chance saloon for any team once January hits.

But, today’s spectacle was an absolute snooze fest. Definitely wouldn’t have won many casual fans over. About as interesting as a 2 hour long Simon Goodwin press conference.

Goody would have loved the Seahawk's defence. Incredible

1 hour ago, Tolstoys Nudge said:

Really? Interesting I’m of complete opposite view ie manufactured BS that was as poor and fake as it gets but hey who cares that’s opinions for you ie no hate here

Fake, as you describe it, would appeal to US audiences though.

9 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Ratings for watching NFL amongst Hispanics is what I meant. It is a growth area and the NFL only cares about market share, future profits, etc

They didn't choose Bad Bunny because they thought it would increase their Hispanic audience. They chose Big Bunny because he is the biggest, most popular artist in the world that has enormous appeal, particularly among young people.

And the Super Bowl half time show has very little, if anything, to do with attracting new fans to the NFL. It's all about the insane advertising revenue (aprox $8 - $10 million for a 30 second slot), which in turns drives the broadcasting rights.

The hilarious thing is MAGA, as was the case with Kendrick Lamar, made Bad Bunny the easiest of easy choices as with all their pathetic bleating and x posts they predictably ensured the decision would get ongoing blanket coverage. And their confected controversy ensured the NFL got millions and millions of dollars of free publicity - and above all, eyeballs tuning into the half time show to see what all the fuss was all about.

In a similar vein, it's also hilarious that Trump slammed the NFL for choosing Bad Bunny and said he would be watching the TPSUA alternative half time show featuring a mid-fifties pervert (poorly) lip syncing to stale old hits rather than Bad Bunny. Yet he comes out today with a Truth Social post slamming the performance, having clearly watched it in its entirety (i 'couldn't understand what he was saying' - yeah dude, it was in Spanish).

Even the haters couldn't turn away.

Edited yesterday at 12:121 day by binman

The Turning Point MAGA thing with Kid rock was one of the most embarrassing things I’ve ever seen. Horrendous

As a lover of the game of NFL since 1989, I can honestly say I’ve never watched a half time show live, seen some on replay, but half time is where you get food and drinks for the second half.

I hit mute and then off I go.

I saw a small muted minute of it and it seemed ridiculously over the top and something I’d hate.

Should have had cannibal corpse play instead or Gwar who spray the crowd in blood! Then I’d tune in.

3 hours ago, bing181 said:

Seriously? From what I've seen it's running around 20:1 for. With good reason.

Mine was in favour of the performance, so I was just saying that a handful of posts isn’t really indicative of the general view.

15 hours ago, hardtack said:

I understand what you’re saying, but I think it kind of misses the point I was making, which was that if they are going to have entertainment, then design it for the home viewing audience as well as those in attendance. I did say I liked the artists, yes, but I’m in no way suggesting that we need to have world famous overseas artists…in fact, I have suggested it before, and would still prefer it, if we did give the platform to Australian acts, and preferably not the predictable Farnsey and Barnsey or even Seymour acts.

The AFL has their entertainment before the game, so it is not in any way impacting the flow of the game, nor the audience in attendance, so from that angle it is completely different to the NFL.

I enjoyed it.

I understand and respect that it wasn't everyone's cup of tea and I don't have a problem with anyone disliking it, as a matter of fact half the venue I was at yesterday didn't really enjoy it. However musically, performance wise, use of stage and props and just overall energy I thought it was excellent. The Lady Gaga and Ricky Martin surprises were great additions as well.

It's good to have something different instead of rolling out the same mainstream suspects, something that opens the mind a bit is hardly a bad thing right now especially in the US.

17 hours ago, hardtack said:

…because that exemplified precisely what a pregame/halftime show should be! They were able to present something that not only gave those present a fantastic experience, but that was also designed with the home viewing audience in mind. While the crowd got a well staged live show, for us at home It was like watching a crazy good music video clip.

I’d never heard of Bad Bunny until all of Trump’s ramblings, and people being all upset over the fact his performance would be in Spanish (he’s from Peurto Rico), but wow, if that was typical of what he does, those going to his shows during his tour here are in for a real treat; he was phenomenal!! As were Lady Gaga and Ricky Martin.

That performance was incredibly poor. Never heard / saw Bad Bunny and wondered what all the hype was about and I have to say it was one of the worst HT shows in recent memory. The only positive was the big "Frank Underwood" he gave Trump by performing. Otherwise, on music alone - terrible performance. In fact ill go as far to say that im really surprised he won a grammy - i dont get what all the talent is about.

I enjoyed the performance and Bad Bunny has appeared in a few of my spotify wrappeds over the years. He's been in the top 5 streamed artists on Spotify since 2019, so he clearly has fans out there. According to Spotify he has 92,948,967 monthly listeners - so he definitely ticks boxes from a metrics POV.

Music is so diverse you'll always find polarizing views on these selections regardless of who it is, like we had with Snoop Dogg last year.

Whether it was right for the super bowl or not is another question, but then again you need to wonder who are these performances for - the fans at the game or the broader public at home etc. The debate over BB was amplified by politics as the USA is going through a lot at the moment (putting that nicely).

One thing I saw made me laugh though, there was a post saying Bad Bunny carried the ball his entire half time performance so he had an estimated 124 rushing yards compared to the patriots who had 79 rushing yards during the game.

12 hours ago, Gorgoroth said:

As a lover of the game of NFL since 1989, I can honestly say I’ve never watched a half time show live, seen some on replay, but half time is where you get food and drinks for the second half.

I hit mute and then off I go.

I saw a small muted minute of it and it seemed ridiculously over the top and something I’d hate.

Should have had cannibal corpse play instead or Gwar who spray the crowd in blood! Then I’d tune in.

Metallica! Santa Clara has missed a trick twice now..

17 hours ago, hardtack said:

…because that exemplified precisely what a pregame/halftime show should be! They were able to present something that not only gave those present a fantastic experience, but that was also designed with the home viewing audience in mind. While the crowd got a well staged live show, for us at home It was like watching a crazy good music video clip.

I’d never heard of Bad Bunny until all of Trump’s ramblings, and people being all upset over the fact his performance would be in Spanish (he’s from Peurto Rico), but wow, if that was typical of what he does, those going to his shows during his tour here are in for a real treat; he was phenomenal!! As were Lady Gaga and Ricky Martin.

Strange choice to have a performance all in Spanish considering it’s an English speaking country. No one understood what he was saying. There would be an uproar here if a singer decided to sing songs all in Greek or Italian

15 hours ago, bing181 said:

Seriously? From what I've seen it's running around 20:1 for. With good reason.

Incredible show, a fantastic celebration of the the best of latino culture and a powerful message (even though I didn't understand a word of it!).

Hard to see how any of it translates to the AFL, though I hope a few at head office were paying attention.

Great message but no one understood a word of it… pretty much sums it up

5 minutes ago, Oxdee said:

Strange choice to have a performance all in Spanish considering it’s an English speaking country. No one understood what he was saying. There would be an uproar here if a singer decided to sing songs all in Greek or Italian

I listen to a lot of music that’s sung in their native tongue, when they tour here I don’t expect them to sing in English.

Should opera be performed in the US in English?

7 minutes ago, layzie said:

Metallica! Santa Clara has missed a trick twice now..

Blows my mind that Maroon 5 have played the SB and not Metallica.

If the typical old grey bearded cardigan wearing comrades that proliferate this site loved it you know it was bad.

The NFL, like the AFL when they chose Snoop Dog, simply want controversy as it attracts more eyeballs. Bad Bunny hates America and has a history of burning the US flag. So the choice suited them perfectly

While most people wouldn't have understood the entirely-in-Spanish lyrics it would get me banned here if I was to print them here as they are disgusting.

Feel free to look them up.

Family entertainment ? To paaphrase John Elliott 'Pig's derriere'

it should be oztrayan only performers

we have incredible artists around this nation and instead we get foreign artists parachuted in to make their millions and prepare for their next antipodean tour

it's appalling, but expected

When you look at the popularity in streaming, awards, following etc., the selection of Bad Bunny is a no-brainer.
The backlash is political and nothing to do with the performance.

Every individual can decide whether or not they enjoyed the performance, but the organised backlash is 100% MAGA.
Framing the debate around patriotism and support for a President is ludicrous when you have the biggest pop star on earth, who also happens to be a US citizen.
The TPUSA event and the perceived need for a TPUSA event was laughable.
If it were a white male from Ohio performing, it would not rate a mention in the political sphere.

For me, I don't think I've every watched the half time entertainment of anything!
Always a chance to stretch the legs, talk about the game, serve some food and enjoy the day!

Never heard of bad bunny but I'm sure his political views are just as tedious as kid rocks.

Personally, i prefer my favoured artists to stay away from politics. I liked early U2 music, but jesus wept, Bono is such a dose i find it hard to separate him from the music.

15 minutes ago, BDA said:

Never heard of bad bunny but I'm sure his political views are just as tedious as kid rocks.

Personally, i prefer my favoured artists to stay away from politics. I liked early U2 music, but jesus wept, Bono is such a dose i find it hard to separate him from the music.

I have no issue with politics in music as after all, that’s what music was in the days of the bards and traveling minstrels. Even in the 20th century, artists like Pete Seeger, Woody Guthrie, Leadbelly, Bob Dylan, Joan Baez and many more too numerous to count, were all political.