9 minutes ago, Nietaphart said:

Last years crop was reported as being 5 deep only. After Langford the drop was reported as significant

untrue.

reported at 30 quality kids

top 7-8 elite

1 hour ago, Ted Lasso said:

Extroadinarily poor negotiation tactic discussing fall back options with a club that is wanting you to blink first.

The only way we were ever any chance to get Humphrey is if the Suns believes a. We wouldn't accept any other deal and B. they wanted Trac more than him.

Sadly i don't think either of those things are true

I thought the same. You dont go into negotiations making it obvious you will back down to a lesser offer.

8 hours ago, Axis of Bob said:

he's just hitting the ball at speed, busting people out of the way, grabbing it first time and moving it on.

The thing I like the most about him is his hands. He's so clean with players around him that he only needs one touch.

This ^ and this ^ - for those that haven't seen Humphrey play - thanks AoB.

He's not far off hitting his straps, which will be well served as a starting mid at the Dees v a pecking order mid at GCS.

19 minutes ago, DubDee said:

untrue.

reported at 30 quality kids

top 7-8 elite

4 of those 8 are tied to clubs and is around 9-10 of the 30 that are club tied.

I think it’s maybe 3 or 4 non club tied standouts at the top, and then pretty even afterward.

Putting my money on 7, 8 and future 2nd for CP 24 and Spargo comp

43 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Ben King would be interesting, somewhat surprised there’s not more talk of him given he’s a pre agent. But I suspect he holds out until his free agency.

Mac Andrew, Jed Walter, Ethan Read of course.

A wildcard - Will Graham is a beauty. Not for Tracc straight up but certainly as part of a deal.

I brought up Will Graham the other down but got blasted for it because hes an average plodder similar to James Peatling lol..

But I agree, ge is an absolute beauty.

9 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I brought up Will Graham the other down but got blasted for it because hes an average plodder similar to James Peatling lol..

But I agree, ge is an absolute beauty.

Agree, Graham would be a solid pick up assuming the Suns hold firm on Humphrey.

I imagine Bailey has the weekend to make up his mind with Sunday night the deadline. He’d have our offer or best pitch and know he and GC need to publicly shut it down come Monday if GC going to then try do a picks deal with MFC.

Fingers crossed.

We will be lambasted from pillar to post if picks 7&8 and Humph are not included in this trade for Tracc.

Lamby and Co can work whatever picks GC need for their NGA from our picks 24, 28, 42 etc into the deal.

I will be looking very closely at these trade happenings.

If we don't walk away with a draft haul my membership will be taken off auto renewal and I'll register my pet turtle for a membership with the club.

Do you think a Collingwood, Hawthorn or Brisbane would roll over on a deal for a generational player with 4 years to run on a deal?

Show some sack Lamby, not folds.

An interesting side to the discussion about how much the proposed picks are worth - even though Taylor & Co. haven't always hit every pick (the curse of Nick 426 Smith lives on, or is that the curse of Nick Sauntner?), they've had an exemplary run of estimating where the drop-away points in each draft has been.

You can go all the way back to 2020 when we got Bowey at 21 and had been desperate in live trading on the night to move up that tiny fragment to get Max Holmes at 20, instead of holding 21 and 22. But what is interesting is you could have moved ten picks further up and done no better.

So I'd trust the club if we decided 7 and 8 got the job done.

For all that, Humprey was pick 6 and has probably advanced higher than that in reckonings after his first three seasons.

The complex problem he creates for opponents is illustrated by his unusual statistical combo - a contested mark per game combined with a goal assist per game. Which Hulk movie was it, where Jake Melksham says "If you could take what I know now and put it in the body I had ten years ago..."?

Absolutely worth more than picks 7 and 8, and we should be thrilled if it comes to a straight swap for Petracca.

55 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

Do you think a Collingwood, Hawthorn or Brisbane would roll over

The Pies traded a 28 year old 2 x All Australian and B&F winner for … pick 27.

Edited Friday at 13:094 days by bing181

3 hours ago, Nietaphart said:

Last years crop was reported as being 5 deep only. After Langford the drop was reported as significant

Not true last year's crop was fantastic particularly because they played or didn't play through COVID as juniors.

Langford could have gone number 1 in other years and I remember watching that draft thinking if he gets to us it's a miracle.

I didn't want X because all the highlights were horrendous but as soon as he got on the park it was obvious he was harder at the footy than Langford which was surprising. His decision making is off the charts too.

Richmond got some absolute guns.

That draft ran deep

1 hour ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

We will be lambasted from pillar to post if picks 7&8 and Humph are not included in this trade for Tracc.

Lamby and Co can work whatever picks GC need for their NGA from our picks 24, 28, 42 etc into the deal.

I will be looking very closely at these trade happenings.

If we don't walk away with a draft haul my membership will be taken off auto renewal and I'll register my pet turtle for a membership with the club.

Do you think a Collingwood, Hawthorn or Brisbane would roll over on a deal for a generational player with 4 years to run on a deal?

Show some sack Lamby, not folds.

7&8 and Humphrey? Hahaha. Consider your membership cancelled

57 minutes ago, bing181 said:

The Pies traded a 28 year old 2 x All Australian and B&F winner for … pick 27.

Hahaha… also, what did trelor go for?

may have missed this in the thread but this is disgusting

4 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

If we don't walk away with a draft haul my membership will be taken off auto renewal and I'll register my pet turtle for a membership with the club.

A silver lining for us all.

7 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

We will be lambasted from pillar to post if picks 7&8 and Humph are not included in this trade for Tracc.

If Trac is worth that much I reckon we should keep him

16 hours ago, Ted Lasso said:

This is where i think the trade week fun and games makes everything go really confusing.

BH upsetting his current employer by meeting with multiple prospective employers is a totally pointless exercise unless his current employer has expressed some openness privately to a move being at least possible.

Otherwise this sort of thing just erodes trust with the player, the club and the manager and noone wants that.

I am certain we asked for Bailey Humphrey and the Suns knew about his personal circumstances and gave their blessing for him to meet with us, they're driving a hardline on him, we are on Trac but i honestly believe this is all or mostly optics and posturing.

I wouldn't fly to Melbourne and meet with prospective employers if there was zero chance of the job being possible, just wouldn't waste my time like that.

What are you whinging about Lasso. We are not privy to all of this by play and each trade has its own life expectancy.

If you gave up every time a Club said NO initially you would never ever get that player. Chances are Melb want a player and if Humphrey is not keen himself the deal is off. If he is keen as he is indicating with recent evidence of some back to Victoria home issues and wanting to return then it alters the landscape immensely.

In addition if BH is eventually counted out then Walters Read Rogers are possibilities for consideration. It backs up our trade package to have a player and pick as a desire for negotiations. Not just 2 picks.

That’s in GC head now so becomes a less of an issue in talks required.

The tan pictures were obviously a quick on the run chance of a meeting to set things going and it was sprung by some fluke photos. All is well may just end well if we are successful.

10 hours ago, Ted Lasso said:

Extroadinarily poor negotiation tactic discussing fall back options with a club that is wanting you to blink first.

The only way we were ever any chance to get Humphrey is if the Suns believes a. We wouldn't accept any other deal and B. they wanted Trac more than him.

Sadly i don't think either of those things are true

Lasso that does not indicate we have had discussions with GC yet on options but merely an offer/ suggestion of where GC sit.

Where have you seen as a result of discussions we have reacted.? I have not seen that possibility at all yet.

You don’t appear to understand the posturing that has gone on.

Also Demon Forever seems to be on the case.

Instead of formulating your own critical description a read of DF before you doctoring might be more realistic.

8 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

We will be lambasted from pillar to post if picks 7&8 and Humph are not included in this trade for Tracc.

do you mean (1) Humphrey OR (2) picks 7 and 8?

Surely you don’t mean both options?

The media is pushing 2 picks pretty consistently. We need “ family or personal reasons” to become part of the BH narrative and he will need to get that out there. Big decision for the young man.

19 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

do you mean (1) Humphrey OR (2) picks 7 and 8?

Surely you don’t mean both options?

Nope he’s said the whole way through he thinks we should be able to get both options.

Completely and utterly delusional.

10 hours ago, Mt. Dee-Maaan said:

Touk & Pick 6?

Love that

Every time I review this thread I feel like this:

Insta update….

One of his best mates

If I was at breaking piont with the Clarry fiasco, then unless this club plays hardball and demands B.H for Tracc then I'm done, as this club are NOT serious about being succesful.