41 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Goodwin was a 2 time premiership player.

and ...

5× All-Australian team (2000, 2001, 2005, 2006, 2009)

Adelaide captain (2008–2010)

Malcolm Blight Medal (2000, 2005, 2006)

Michael Tuck Medal (2006)

AFLCA Champion Player of the Year (2006)

Australia international rules football team (2000, 2001)

Dream Team (Australian rules football) (2008)

Adelaide Team of the Decade – Interchange

Showdown Medal (2005, 2007)

Australian Football Hall of Fame inductee 2017

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Edited Friday at 08:222 days by lorn

We want experience.

There shouldn't be any ambiguity about this. It's very simple.

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Goodwin came from Essendon during a far worse period for them. Worked out alright.

I don't know why he is highly rated, but being at a successful club doesn't automatically make you successful or unsuccessful. Although I think having seen success as player or coach is very important.

Goodwin was a 2 time premiership player.

Yeah, but as a kid. He was in premiership sides in his first and second years, so not a senior player or leader. Just a lucky kid, so that premiership record was never particularly persuasive to me, although I love what he did for our club as a coach.

5 minutes ago, pitmaster said:

Yeah, but as a kid. He was in premiership sides in his first and second years, so not a senior player or leader. Just a lucky kid, so that premiership record was never particularly persuasive to me, although I love what he did for our club as a coach.

You could argue that he was good enough to get games in premiership sides as a kid. That says a lot about his talent.

I think success as a coach is more important than success as a player. Probably helps if you have both though.

Goodwin would easily have been the best player out of the past 10 years of premiership coaches. It's a completely different skillset.

3 minutes ago, Adam The God said:

I think success as a coach is more important than success as a player. Probably helps if you have both though.

Clarko, Chris Fagan are just proof that you dont need to have a successful playing career at elite level to succeed as a coach.

Michael Voss for all his incredible playing career is a downright ordinary coach.

There are a lot more premiership coaches who were battling footballers than the other way around.

Hope for Giansircusa’s sake how he played has zero reeflection on how he coaches because he was, to be polite, an outside outside player

13 minutes ago, deegirl said:

Hope for Giansircusa’s sake how he played has zero reeflection on how he coaches because he was, to be polite, an outside outside player

Was a smart footballer. Like Caracella, worked incredibly hard and always found space.

5 minutes ago, SPC said:

Was a smart footballer. Like Caracella, worked incredibly hard and always found space.

😂😂😂 Another absolute lurker who never won a hard ball in his career

2 hours ago, layzie said:

We want experience.

Not sure, but if we did, here's our boy:

AFL

Brownlow Medal: 2003

Norm Smith Medal: 2002

AFLCA Champion Player of the Year: 2003

7× All-Australian team: 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003

AFL Rising Star: 1993

AFL Rising Star nominee: 1993

Herald Sun Player of the Year: 1998

Australian Football League life member: 2006

Australian Football Hall of Fame: 2011

Collingwood

6× Copeland Trophy: 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2003

R.T. Rush Trophy (2nd B&F): 1997

J.J. Joyce Trophy (3rd B&F): 2001

Bob Rose Award (Best Finals Player): 2003

Collingwood captain: 1999–2007

Collingwood Football Club Hall of Fame: 2004

Collingwood Football Club life member: 2004

Collingwood Team of the Century

SANFL

Port Adelaide Premiership player: 1992

Magarey Medal: 1992

Jack Oatey Medal: 1992

John Cahill Medal: 1992

Representative

Jesaulenko Medal: 1997

Captain of the Allies: 1997

International Rules 1998-1999

Coaching

AFLCA Coach of the Year: 2018

6 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

ol 'plugger mac' been a dead eye in front of goal since about 2017!

he and ben brown just ahead of fritta for best set shot for goal at the mfc

yet how many times has he played up forward since 2021?

5 hours ago, dees189227 said:

Do you know what, I'm just going to trust the process & whoever they choose then I'll just go with it.

Me too, but whomever gets the nod there will be a hell of s lot of dissenters here

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Clarko, Chris Fagan are just proof that you dont need to have a successful playing career at elite level to succeed as a coach.

Michael Voss for all his incredible playing career is a downright ordinary coach.

And Hird

12 hours ago, binman said:

One of the interesting thing about the Dog's list is it highlights key forwards are no longer anywhere near as important in terms of driving success as they used to be. They just aren't that influential.

And similarly it highlights the risk of loading up on key forwards in the draft.

Carlton has a similar problem with Curnow and Mackay?

You can scrub Bruce off the list.

School leavers may not apply.

17 hours ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Hold up the five year offer is from the dogs or the Dee's? Maybe I'm misinterpreting your post.

We have made a bid for Bevo.

Bevo has continually said it’s dogs or no one next year but Dees hoping he would change his mind after making finals

11 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

We have made a bid for Bevo.

Bevo has continually said it’s dogs or no one next year but Dees hoping he would change his mind after making finals

I would of thought that the only link Bevo would ever have with the MFC was his hatred of Tom Morris.

Buckley > Bevo every day of the week

12 hours ago, Demon Jack said:

Straight from Demonland!

36 minutes ago, Deez21 said:

We have made a bid for Bevo.

Bevo has continually said it’s dogs or no one next year but Dees hoping he would change his mind after making finals

You've said this a few times but I'd be pretty [censored] if we threw out this whole process because a guy who already knocked us back changed his mind.

1 minute ago, KozzyCan said:

You've said this a few times but I'd be pretty [censored] if we threw out this whole process because a guy who already knocked us back changed his mind.

Don't fall for it 'Koz'...

14 hours ago, pitmaster said:

Yeah, but as a kid. He was in premiership sides in his first and second years, so not a senior player or leader. Just a lucky kid, so that premiership record was never particularly persuasive to me, although I love what he did for our club as a coach.

Refer @bing181 ’s post.

16 hours ago, bing181 said:

and ...

5× All-Australian team (2000, 2001, 2005, 2006, 2009)

Adelaide captain (2008–2010)

Malcolm Blight Medal (2000, 2005, 2006)

Michael Tuck Medal (2006)

AFLCA Champion Player of the Year (2006)

Australia international rules football team (2000, 2001)

Dream Team (Australian rules football) (2008)

Adelaide Team of the Decade – Interchange

Showdown Medal (2005, 2007)

Australian Football Hall of Fame inductee 2017