2 hours ago, Swooper1987 said:

Your point is valid. There is, however, a longer list of first time coaches who disappeared into the abyss. Here's some names from relatively recent times -

Brisbane - Voss, Leppitsch

Carlton - Brittain, Ratten, Bolton, Teague

Essendon - Knights, Hird, Rutten

North - Shaw, Noble (Laidley and Scott did make finals)

Melbourne - Bailey, Neeld

Gold Coast - McKenna, Dew

St Kilda - Watters, Richardson

West Coast - too early to tell on McQualter

Fremantle - have gone both ways and the only really successful was Lyon who got them to a granny who was a second timer. Otherwise they've gone first timers throughout their history which is now 30 years without saluting.

GWS have only had first timers since Sheedy and both Cameron and Kingsley have been relatively successful.

Most of the rest have had good stability for a decent period - Geelong Thompson/Scott; Hawthorn Clarkson/Mitchell; Swans - Roos/Longmire/Cox

It's easy to get it wrong with a first timer. Of the second or third timers currently -

Voss - prelim

Lyon - finals in first year then a reset

Clarkson - nothing yet

Brad Scott - nothing yet

Hardwick - finals

Melbourne - Roos, Goodwin 2014 - 2025 saluted in 2021, finals in 2018, 2022 & 2023.

4 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

Today is a great day. Saved from ourselves.

Go Dees.

Who has reported Buckley is out

2 hours ago, Swooper1987 said:

Your point is valid. There is, however, a longer list of first time coaches who disappeared into the abyss. Here's some names from relatively recent times -

Brisbane - Voss, Leppitsch

Carlton - Brittain, Ratten, Bolton, Teague

Essendon - Knights, Hird, Rutten

North - Shaw, Noble (Laidley and Scott did make finals)

Melbourne - Bailey, Neeld

Gold Coast - McKenna, Dew

St Kilda - Watters, Richardson

West Coast - too early to tell on McQualter

Fremantle - have gone both ways and the only really successful was Lyon who got them to a granny who was a second timer. Otherwise they've gone first timers throughout their history which is now 30 years without saluting.

GWS have only had first timers since Sheedy and both Cameron and Kingsley have been relatively successful.

Most of the rest have had good stability for a decent period - Geelong Thompson/Scott; Hawthorn Clarkson/Mitchell; Swans - Roos/Longmire/Cox

It's easy to get it wrong with a first timer. Of the second or third timers currently -

Voss - prelim

Lyon - finals in first year then a reset

Clarkson - nothing yet

Brad Scott - nothing yet

Hardwick - finals

Melbourne - Roos, Goodwin 2014 - 2025 saluted in 2021, finals in 2018, 2022 & 2023.👍😁

3 minutes ago, brendan said:

Who has reported Buckley is out

No one but if it's true we'll know in the next few hours.

@Chook in Perth you heard Buckley is out

4 minutes ago, BLWNBA said:

Five is now down to four.

Wow, the Tassie offer must be immense!

8 minutes ago, brendan said:

Who has reported Buckley is out

Nobody has. Either knows something we don’t or is making it up.

5 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

Either knows something we don’t or is making it up.

The time has come for making his mind up?

Any deliberate misinformation should be a permaban.

8 minutes ago, Mouseymoo said:

Any deliberate misinformation should be a permaban.

It’s not misinformation if they were told something that doesn’t come true. You’d have to prove they knew it wasn’t true.

This is a forum where really, 99.95% of people on here are not in the loop and speculate.

Who else has supposedly dropped out of?

@BLWNBA has good mail. I'd take it as fact.

Irrespective of the recent conjecture as to whether someone may or may not have excused themselves from consideration, our candidates do seem to be dropping like flies.

Does anyone have a feel for whether we are informing candidates that they have been unsuccessful, or whether they are dropping out after receiving unsatisfactory answers to pertinent questions?

I did see a clip of Paul Roos during the week suggesting that all candidates should be asking the board to provide full disclosure of our cultural shortcomings, both perceived and actual.

1 minute ago, poita said:

Irrespective of the recent conjecture as to whether someone may or may not have excused themselves from consideration, our candidates do seem to be dropping like flies.

Does anyone have a feel for whether we are informing candidates that they have been unsuccessful, or whether they are dropping out after receiving unsatisfactory answers to pertinent questions?

I did see a clip of Paul Roos during the week suggesting that all candidates should be asking the board to provide full disclosure of our cultural shortcomings, both perceived and actual.

Most likely them being advised they’re not progressing and allowing them to withdraw. Would have been a pre-requisite for Buckley coming into our process.

I’d say whittle down to final 3, then an announcement from there

Of course we may have rejected the terms demanded by an applicant.

Makes sense if you take a step back

But I must admit to knowing nothing

1 hour ago, BLWNBA said:

You know I love your work @BLWNBA but a bit of context on who it was that made the decision (i.e. Buckley or us) would be nice!?

3 minutes ago, demoncat said:

You know I love your work @BLWNBA but a bit of context on who it was that made the decision (i.e. Buckley or us) would be nice!?

It had to be Buckley.

There is no way he did not make the short list (maybe 2 names) to go to the Board for approval

4 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

It had to be Buckley.

There is no way he did not make the short list (maybe 2 names) to go to the Board for approval

Yep. Guessing they’d have taken the 3 standouts which sound like it was Buckley, Kelly and lade. If Buckley was the favourite he may have been offered the role and decline which is odd. Why go through all this only to say no?

Just now, Ted Lasso said:

Yep. Guessing they’d have taken the 3 standouts which sound like it was Buckley, Kelly and lade. If Buckley was the favourite he may have been offered the role and decline which is odd. Why go through all this only to say no?

If he did get offered it and turned it down maybe the interview from his side didn't go down well.

Sounds like Bucks did his first drive out to Casey

The shortlist has not been confirmed (i.e the final 2)

Are we completely sure it's Buckley and not one of the others?

Steven King...just been announced

Just now, DoubleH said:

Steven King...just been announced

As our coach, or the one who is out?