The Draft Pick Upgrade Thread

[DeeZone 9,537]

Pick 5 & 9 puts us in the box seat for a couple of champions, thanks Mr Lamb, reckon JT will be ecstatic if this comes off.

[ChaserJ 4,978]

3 hours ago, Demons11 said:

Of course it does, it doesn’t absorb their 1st pick and they can use later picks 

Not if it was just 9 for North’s F1st. Would have left ESS with just pick 31 and staring at a points deficit.

We had points matching capital to add and looks like that put us in box seat.

[Sydee 4,377]

I’d like Lalor and Tarau with 5&9 thanks 🙏 

Edited October 13 by Sydee

[Demonland 71,114]

 

[Moonshadow 17,673]

4 hours ago, PaulRB said:

Given it’s looking more likely than not that we’ll have first round father son in K White next year trading out for good return this year is genius…

Has that been confirmed? I migh've missed it. Last I read there was no indication yet from him or family

[Roost it far 8,104]

1 minute ago, Moonshadow said:

Has that been confirmed? I migh've missed it. Last I read there was no indication yet from him or family

Nor has there been any Indication that he’s a first round selection. The club will likely have answers to both those questions. 

[seventyfour 1,121]

With the brilliance of Jason Taylor, surely two shots with picks 5 and 9 is far better than one shot with pick 2... hope we don't trade with North.

[DeeZone 9,537]

42 minutes ago, seventyfour said:

With the brilliance of Jason Taylor, surely two shots with picks 5 and 9 is far better than one shot with pick 2... hope we don't trade with North.

Me to 74 we need to build up our elite group prior to Tassie coming on board and this draft is so deep.

[DeeSpencer 25,365]

46, 53, 56 (Adelaide, Ess via GWS, Ess via GWS)

49, 54, 65

1355 points.

32 and 34 from Brisbane 1126.

Make it happen 

 

 

[Adam The God 30,026]

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

46, 53, 56 (Adelaide, Ess via GWS, Ess via GWS)

49, 54, 65

1355 points.

32 and 34 from Brisbane 1126.

Make it happen 

 

 

And then flip 32 and 34 for a pick inside 30.

[deelusions from afar 1,768]

1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

46, 53, 56 (Adelaide, Ess via GWS, Ess via GWS)

49, 54, 65

1355 points.

32 and 34 from Brisbane 1126.

Make it happen 

 

 

While I love the thinking...

They've said: Essendon trading pick 9 and a future third-round pick for Melbourne's future first-round pick and picks 28, 40, 46, 54 and 65.

So where are these picks coming from?

And is there no longer a rule about needing to have the list spots available (or something similar) if you're using a suite of picks to match points for a player (ie to stop teams stockpiling late picks)?

[DeeSpencer 25,365]

3 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

While I love the thinking...

They've said: Essendon trading pick 9 and a future third-round pick for Melbourne's future first-round pick and picks 28, 40, 46, 54 and 65.

So where are these picks coming from?

And is there no longer a rule about needing to have the list spots available (or something similar) if you're using a suite of picks to match points for a player (ie to stop teams stockpiling late picks)?

This was before the Essendon deal.

We now need to rely on GWS sending us some junk picks or some other method.

Our F2, Essendon’s F3 for GWS’ F2 and F3, Derksen and picks in the 50’s???

i think that rule got quietly scrapped during covid. 

[FreedFromDesire 933]

Once we have the Essendon deal done we should be talking to GWS about a potential pick split in my view.

I personally would consider 9 and 49 for their 15 and 21.

[Moonshadow 17,673]

Happy if we use 5 and 9 only in the draft

5, 9, Sharp, Campbell and maybe a couple of rookies, such as Yze or Mentha if JT likes them enough

Edited October 13 by Moonshadow

[whatwhat say what 22,552]

3 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Happy if we use 5 and 9 only in the draft

same

two picks inside top 10 >> one pick inside top 10, one in the 20s, one in the 40s etc. etc.

quality >> quantity

[Moonshadow 17,673]

6 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

Once we have the Essendon deal done we should be talking to GWS about a potential pick split in my view.

I personally would consider 9 and 49 for their 15 and 21.

What do we use for Sharp?

Cannot trade other 2025 future picks due to F1 gone

[FreedFromDesire 933]

Just now, Moonshadow said:

What do we use for Sharp?

Cannot trade other 2025 future picks due to F1 gone

I believe the Sharp deal may be off now. This is unconfirmed rumour currently, so the whole idea may end up completely out the window of course. I think we are required by the AFL to use at least 3 draft picks each year aren't we? So even if we were to trade 49 for Sharp we would still need to find another pick somewhere I think? My guess is we are not done yet with our pick trading, the talk around this year's draft has been the top 30 or so are all very good (apologies if wrong, it's not something I follow very closely), so just from my perspective I'd be happy with 3 picks in the top 21.

We could then possibly look at Yze as a rookie and I remember reading the club was trying to get Mentha as a category B rookie.

[Demon Disciple 11,998]

Perhaps elevate AMW on to senior list as our 3rd pick

[Macca 16,900]

3 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Happy if we use 5 and 9 only in the draft

I agree

We've now got 2 gilt-edged chances to add 2 very good players to the list with the 2 high-end picks

If we can find a 3rd, we're going to need a bit of luck but 2 x very good players plus 1 or 2 that end up being starting 22 would be a fantastic result

Another smokey like McVee would become the 3rd top player.  So out of the other 5 or 6 other players added to the list this off-season, we could unearth a gem

All that added to an already talented list (if all fit & firing and playing well) 

[Moonshadow 17,673]

9 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I believe the Sharp deal may be off now. This is unconfirmed rumour currently, so the whole idea may end up completely out the window of course. I think we are required by the AFL to use at least 3 draft picks each year aren't we? So even if we were to trade 49 for Sharp we would still need to find another pick somewhere I think? My guess is we are not done yet with our pick trading, the talk around this year's draft has been the top 30 or so are all very good (apologies if wrong, it's not something I follow very closely), so just from my perspective I'd be happy with 3 picks in the top 21.

We could then possibly look at Yze as a rookie and I remember reading the club was trying to get Mentha as a category B rookie.

I believe the rule is we have to turn over 3 spots on our list, not necessarily pick three in the draft.

I could be wrong on that though.  You've been good for years here at finding out these details, so appreciate in advance if you can clarify 

5, 9 and Campbell might suffice if so

[FreedFromDesire 933]

Just now, Moonshadow said:

I believe the rule is we have to turn over 3 spots on our list, not necessarily pick three in the draft.

I could be wrong on that though.  You've been good for years here at finding out these details, so appreciate in advance if you can clarify 

5, 9 and Campbell might suffice if so

Found an article quickly that mentions it:

"AFL rules force clubs to use three picks at the national draft but these spots can also be filled by upgraded rookies or by clubs re-selecting delisted players if they choose."

How many picks your club is set to use at the 2022 NAB AFL Draft

I'm not sure what you mean about the years comment? I have been reading for quite a long time, it probably is in the years by now, but have only recently taken the leap into trying to contribute and discuss.

[Garbo 1,517]

Outside only taking 2 players at the draft or upgrading rookies for the remaining spots can anyone explain why we had to trade absolutely everything for pick 9 surely keeping a few other picks would have been useful for some other trades or someone who falls through in the draft 

[Demon Spofforth 286]

Maybe the Sharp deal is 49 for Sharp & 66?

Gives Lions extra 200 points for Academy bids while leaves us with a third pick still.

Sharp effectively for pick 55 according to the calculators.

[Supreme_Demon 3,715]

Picks #5 and #9 now belong to the Demons!

Excellent news!

[Moonshadow 17,673]

2 minutes ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Picks #5 and #9 now belong to the Demons!

Excellent news!

Two unicorns coming up!