14 minutes ago, Dockett 32 said:

Appart from being massive unders, would surely test their salary cap.

 

I suspect that 1 first round pick will be for the draft and the other used in a trade ... we will see ...

2 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Not sure why the Hawks want to trade out of this years first round

Seems like a strange move unless linked to trades

Bingo.

Hawks send F1 + change to WC for Barrass.

WC F1 + change to Richmond for Baker.

30 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

Bingo.

Hawks send F1 + change to WC for Barrass.

WC F1 + change to Richmond for Baker.

I think the Eagles will want the Carlton first rounder (not the Hawks one) and more. Honestly it’s the perfect deal to change the rules and let the Eagles get the best of the 2 first rounders (Carl or Hawks) next year but the afl rules don’t allow that.

Eagles would be mad to offer their own first but they’ll on send the Carl/Haw first rounder for Baker.

It’s smart from the Hawks. They didn’t want to offer more than 14. Can now offer a future first and future 2nd. It’s worth the same thing but reads better! 

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55 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Honestly a little surprised we didn’t jump at that. Must be either more up in the air with other deals or a degree of confidence that we can do better. Let’s hope so 

That pick 9 looks very attractive

4 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

That pick 9 looks very attractive

I agree, but the Hawks chucking a future first in the Eagles/Richmond pot diminishes the likelihood Freo or Richmond end up trading one out. It might be 9 or bust 

 

 

Hopefully that 2025 Academy action for GC isn't White Jnr!

13 minutes ago, adonski said:

 

Our offer is the strongest if they think we’re finishing mid table

15 minutes ago, adonski said:

 

i'd prefer peptides' pick 9

 

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

That’s called a win win 

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Don't mind that. Get a couple of quality youngsters in what is considered to be a good draft to alongside Windsor and Kolt from last year. That's a good injection of young talent with hopefully Jefferson also debuting next year.

Edited October 11, 20241 yr by Demon Jack

I’d much prefer GC get a high pick next year if we bomb than the bombers tbh. 
 

Rather a GC death ride 

If Sydney get pick 13 it means we can then go after pick 19 or 22. Either way we should be improving our draft hand this year. 

Melbourne is giving GC something to think about on pick 13.
The Demons have offered a future 1st rounder + pick 28. 
 

I’m not sure about this.  Would like GC 13 & 41 picks for Dees future 1st rounder + pick 28. 

What to do with pick 13 …

1/ used as late bid for Houston or

2/ after academy and Ashcroft picks, it’s likely to be pick “16” to be used for a youngster like Joe Berry, Ali’s Tauru or Taj Hotton or Cooper Hynes. (🤞but I think Xavier Lindsay will be gone at this pick) 

Get pick 13 from GC

Added bonus of screwing up the Pies plans

Trade 13 + something for the bombers pick 9

Go to draft with 5 and 9

Nail them are we are back baby!

1 hour ago, adonski said:

 

Sydney's offer could be attractive - 19 to cover a Lombard bid and 22 to use in the draft.

Clearly don't understand all the permutations... but I would have thought that giving up our future 1st limits our ability to get pick 9 from the bombers?

Maybe the saints are confident they will be able to trump our offer for it - the bombers might have already told us this?

Otherwise why would we do this now when it seems like we are in the box seat to get 9 if we (or someone else) bids on Kako?  What am I missing?

2 minutes ago, deelusions from afar said:

Clearly don't understand all the permutations... but I would have thought that giving up our future 1st limits our ability to get pick 9 from the bombers?

Maybe the saints are confident they will be able to trump our offer for it - the bombers might have already told us this?

Otherwise why would we do this now when it seems like we are in the box seat to get 9 if we (or someone else) bids on Kako?  What am I missing?

You'd have to think either the Dons have told us to bugger off and/or they have a better offer elsewhere, so we've turned our attention to 13

18 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Get pick 13 from GC

Added bonus of screwing up the Pies plans

Trade 13 + something for the bombers pick 9

Go to draft with 5 and 9

Nail them are we are back baby!

The Bombers will either want to get ahead of the bid for Kako, or push 9 into a 2025 f1 pick. Getting 13 doesn't help them

9 minutes ago, adonski said:

You'd have to think either the Dons have told us to bugger off and/or they have a better offer elsewhere, so we've turned our attention to 13

If I’m the Dons I’m inclined to call our bluff and see if we pick Kako at 5 (6). Could happen, but I’d say odds on it doesn’t.

They probably have to flick St Kilda something to get 9 to 8 or guarantee a non Saints bid.

16 minutes ago, old55 said:

Sydney's offer could be attractive - 19 to cover a Lombard bid and 22 to use in the draft.

You don’t match a bid for Lombard with a premium pick of 19, you do it with junk in the 30’s and 40’s.

If they took the Swans deal they’d probably trade both those picks in different deals. 

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

You don’t match a bid for Lombard with a premium pick of 19, you do it with junk in the 30’s and 40’s.

If they took the Swans deal they’d probably trade both those picks in different deals. 

Not if they value players in the top 25 or so this year they won't.

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

If I’m the Dons I’m inclined to call our bluff and see if we pick Kako at 5 (6). Could happen, but I’d say odds on it doesn’t.

They probably have to flick St Kilda something to get 9 to 8 or guarantee a non Saints bid.

True... but if you know the Don's list you know they're crying out for a small forward - so they need him.  I think they want to ensure they get him and another 1st round pick (whether that be this year or next it doesn't really matter).  I guess the saints may be more attractive - who would they see as more likely to jump up the ladder next year out of us or them?

2 minutes ago, old55 said:

Not if they value players in the top 25 or so this year they won't.

I don’t think they’re going to have a live pick in the draft. Match Lombard and that’s it. Even still, paying with peanuts and trading back in is a better option.