Looked good last night against Brisbane.

I can see why we were interested in 2024. I’d imagine we would’ve still been interested in 2025 if we were able to trade May off the list.

E Hollands is a very talented player (with known issues) but if I were Carlton I’d go with Derksen.

If Motlop is put on the Long Term Injury (LTI) list then both E Hollands and Derksen can be signed up. That is what I anticipate will happen.

Derksen looked good out there last night.

Perhaps some circumstances finally swinging Derkson's way.

Carlton re-listing Elijah Hollands would cost them thousands of memberships - the Carlton rumour mill knows well enough and there's disquiet about him even being around the club on the VFL list.

I mean, there can be multi-season bruhahahas about Melbourne's culture, but Carlton's issues are just as well known even if they aren't rehashed in compilation videos every three months.

17 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

Perhaps some circumstances finally swinging Derkson's way.

Carlton re-listing Elijah Hollands would cost them thousands of memberships - the Carlton rumour mill knows well enough and there's disquiet about him even being around the club on the VFL list.

I mean, there can be multi-season bruhahahas about Melbourne's culture, but Carlton's issues are just as well known even if they aren't rehashed in compilation videos every three months.

Think you will find the complete opposite on this.

Carlton supporters know hes got enormous talent and want to see him succeed as a player. If he gets a gig then its because hes worked incredibly hard (which he has) and put in the work off field.

46 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Think you will find the complete opposite on this.

Carlton supporters know hes got enormous talent and want to see him succeed as a player. If he gets a gig then its because hes worked incredibly hard (which he has) and put in the work off field.

Fair enough alternate perspective. I guess both can be entirely true given how divided Carlton are at the moment / the last twenty years.

I guess my interaction with the Carlton world leans towards the 'we must reset our culture whatever the cost' group, while the other side of the coin is 'we just need a couple more high quality players to reach the critical mass of a complete team'.

It reaches an acute point with the run of father-son selections, the Camporeales, Harry Dean and prospective Cody Walker. Do you try to rebuild the list and culture urgently, to give these kids the best possible environment, or do you try to hold onto the mature players and some 'difficult' players long enough to also ride this wave of young talent?

2 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Carlton re-listing Elijah Hollands would cost them thousands of memberships - the Carlton rumour mill knows well enough and there's disquiet about him even being around the club on the VFL list.

Surely we’re looking at him after clearing some space in our loose-list cap over the offseason?

15 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

2 Free Fors?

43 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

2 Free Fors?

That's how they count at Carlton. Wun too free for.