Goodwin Gifts Daicos Brownlow

[darkhorse72 1,943]

Who cares...

But an interesting stat from during the week after last weekend. He's got the second highest number of games without a single contested mark.  Matt Rowel has the record but had his first last week.  As a footy player I find that amazing, but show his role in the team of being basically an outside receiver. 

Hopefully Bont wins this year, but he will win at least 1 as he does what the umpires notice. 

 

 

 

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13 hours ago, picket fence said:

Might be all this but WE LET HIM RUN RIOT

Down to Goodwins Coaching!

PF it wasn’t just Nick but Josh was running hot as well and just Who in our side last night was going to stop either of them, if we could have caught them, I thought he was going to crack 200 the way he started.

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26 minutes ago, picket fence said:

I thought we were trying to win the game? Re experimentation. Why put Jefferson in as emergency then when a tall in Lever goes out we replace with Woey? Perfect opportunity to experiment right there and again the brains trust blew it to the shizzen!

Well perhaps, yes perhaps.

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2 hours ago, Demonstone said:

  RUOK @WalkingCivilWar?  

Dagnabbit!

In my defense, to be fare I didnt get home till 1:30am and I must of eating something dodgy since I was sick as a dog and was up all night with a spew buckett by my side. I should of not eating that pie that was giving to me by someone I just met.

🤢

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1 hour ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Dagnabbit!

Sorry!  Have PMed you.  

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I know Goodwin is our premiership coach but [censored] he is an [censored] and very frustrating to have as head coach. 

Edited August 24, 2024 by DemonOX

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2 hours ago, picket fence said:

I thought we were trying to win the game? Re experimentation. Why put Jefferson in as emergency then when a tall in Lever goes out we replace with Woey? Perfect opportunity to experiment right there and again the brains trust blew it to the shizzen!

It was wet, the pies forward line brained us for pace even without Lever and we couldn’t move the ball through the midfield most of the night yet alone find tall forwards on the lead. 

The obsession with Jefferson is unhealthy. 

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6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

The obsession with Jefferson is unhealthy. 

If @picket fence was a Native American, his tribal name would be "Five Horses".

Nag nag nag nag nag.

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2 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Dagnabbit!

In my defense, to be fare I didnt get home till 1:30am and I must of eating something dodgy since I was sick as a dog and was up all night with a spew buckett by my side. I should of not eating that pie that was giving to me by someone I just met.

🤢

IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY MUSHROOMS IN IT DID IT??🤢🤮

Edited August 24, 2024 by picket fence

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4 hours ago, darkhorse72 said:

But an interesting stat from during the week after last weekend. He's got the second highest number of games without a single contested mark.  Matt Rowel has the record but had his first last week.  As a footy player I find that amazing, but show his role in the team of being basically an outside receiver. 

Although it is an interesting stat, I disagree that it shows that he is basically an outside receiver considering Matt Rowell held the record and he's a contested bull. Teams are only averaging 9.6 contested marks a game this season - they're few and far between.

Contested marks for leading possession winners, 2024

Nick Daicos: 0 / 694
Tom Green: 2 / 673
Adam Treloar: 3 / 662
Caleb Serong: 2 / 655
Zak Butters: 0 / 638
Noah Anderson: 0 / 634
Patrick Cripps: 7 / 633
Andrew Brayshaw: 1 / 627
Luke Davies-Uniacke: 1 / 624
Zach Merrett: 2 / 614

Nick Daicos is ranked fifth for average first possessions at stoppages and first for gathers from hitout. He may not win as many hard ball gets as some, but he definitely wins plenty of his own ball.

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6 hours ago, Adam The God said:

But IMO, it showed how very possible it is to heat Collingwood. If your tag works on Nick Daicos (and I know Josh got up there last night too), you.completely stifle their ball movement and their ability to score from defensive 50 and stoppage, because he does it all.

Daicos’ worst game this year was arguably KB, when ANB tagged him right out of it. 

We didn’t get near them. 

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1 minute ago, titan_uranus said:

Daicos’ worst game this year was arguably KB, when ANB tagged him right out of it. 

We didn’t get near them. 

That's true. In that game, Josh went mad and was BOG.

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10 hours ago, Adam The God said:

I don't.

Nibbler won't be playing with us next year, so we had an eye to educating McVee on Daicos, and I'm sure we hoped he'd be able to nullify him, but around stoppage Daicos is so difficult to play on. And then for whatever reason McVee didn't hand off to a player higher up the ground or didn't go with Daicos.

Daicos' movement was smart, his patterns are incredible, and it may have just been an inexperience thing on McVee and the rest of our team that Daicos and Collingwood exploited.

I actually don't think it was a coaching thing. Because when Nibbler went to him in the last, he still had 12 touches, the same as he had in the first quarter.

But IMO, it showed how very possible it is to heat Collingwood. If your tag works on Nick Daicos (and I know Josh got up there last night too), you.completely stifle their ball movement and their ability to score from defensive 50 and stoppage, because he does it all.

He had all the confidence in the world after the easiest opening to a game he will probably ever have in his career.

I understand it was ANB's last game but why not run with it for the 1st qtr?

Tried and tested.

Shocking match up with Salo.

 

 

Edited August 24, 2024 by YesitwasaWin4theAges

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This is ridiculous, tagging him would have made matters worse.

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18 hours ago, daisycutter said:

i don't see how giving your direct opponent 20m of freeboard all the time is somehow actually "trying"

at least go down, if you must, in a contest

Has nothing to do with my comments.

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On 23/08/2024 at 22:24, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Who cares. It’s a popularity contest. 

Exactly, imo Hogan has had a better year than any if them.  But won't get a look because he is a forward, even though it's one of the hardest positions on the ground and you are tagged every week 

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On 23/08/2024 at 20:27, Young Angus said:

Bont definitely more deserving. 
 

This is genius by Goodwin, very subtle way of getting us that better draft pick. Like a professional move taking the ball over the boundary line without getting pinged for deliberate. 

Yes Goodwin is a genius took a top 4 side to the bottom in 1 season playing a poor game plan

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9 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

He had all the confidence in the world after the easiest opening to a game he will probably ever have in his career.

I understand it was ANB's last game but why not run with it for the 1st qtr?

Tried and tested.

Shocking match up with Salo.

 

 

And again down to Goodwin!

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I’m not sure why most of you are up in arms about this? 
 

A gift is a gift. He is a good man is our Goody!!

 

You lot would be a wet blanket on Xmas day. 
 

Sheesh. 🙄 

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The Brownlow is rubbish determined by fools as most serious supporters understand, but it has a wider impact on club morale and individual player status. That’s why I hope the Bont wins it. Anything that makes Collingwood feel good is best avoided.

Bont is also more deserving. He plays, and does his best work, against actual opponents.

Daicos is most effective playing solo.

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22 hours ago, picket fence said:

Exactly and this is what I am critical of Goodwins blatant refusal to place a hard tag on a proven matchwinner instead deciding to back our midfielders. Why is it that all teams elect to go with a hard tag On Clarry , blocking, harrasing, niggling which has worked somewhat in some games this year, but for anyone to be accountable for Daicos??? Nar too hard. This is down to Goodwins coaching and one of the major reasons we not only lost the game, but probably handed this free running non accountable player a Brownlow!!

They also tagged our best Mid, Vines, who ended up with a player rating a mile off the off-the-charts rating he put up against the Suns last week.  Barely fired a shot.

If it's not Clarry it's Vines and that makes sense as he is our main extractor.

Chandler is also another run with option for Nick.

Not a great year for Mr Goodwin i'm afraid.

The Pies have been doing a number on Simon since the final round in 2017.  He's learned nothing in 7 seasons.

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18 hours ago, WheeloRatings said:

Although it is an interesting stat, I disagree that it shows that he is basically an outside receiver considering Matt Rowell held the record and he's a contested bull. Teams are only averaging 9.6 contested marks a game this season - they're few and far between.

Contested marks for leading possession winners, 2024

Nick Daicos: 0 / 694
Tom Green: 2 / 673
Adam Treloar: 3 / 662
Caleb Serong: 2 / 655
Zak Butters: 0 / 638
Noah Anderson: 0 / 634
Patrick Cripps: 7 / 633
Andrew Brayshaw: 1 / 627
Luke Davies-Uniacke: 1 / 624
Zach Merrett: 2 / 614

Nick Daicos is ranked fifth for average first possessions at stoppages and first for gathers from hitout. He may not win as many hard ball gets as some, but he definitely wins plenty of his own ball.

I reckon he's a gun at stoppages, but gets a heap of handball receives when he plays half back, and when he runs forward from stoppage. He gets a lot of basically uncontested marks as well because he runs into the space. He's a brilliant player, but you can more than halve his disposal count by playing a runner on him to cut down on those uncontested possessions that help Collingwood maintain possession. Stopping him winning stoppage is tougher though and they block very well for him.

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19 hours ago, WheeloRatings said:

Although it is an interesting stat, I disagree that it shows that he is basically an outside receiver considering Matt Rowell held the record and he's a contested bull. Teams are only averaging 9.6 contested marks a game this season - they're few and far between.

Contested marks for leading possession winners, 2024

Nick Daicos: 0 / 694
Tom Green: 2 / 673
Adam Treloar: 3 / 662
Caleb Serong: 2 / 655
Zak Butters: 0 / 638
Noah Anderson: 0 / 634
Patrick Cripps: 7 / 633
Andrew Brayshaw: 1 / 627
Luke Davies-Uniacke: 1 / 624
Zach Merrett: 2 / 614

Nick Daicos is ranked fifth for average first possessions at stoppages and first for gathers from hitout. He may not win as many hard ball gets as some, but he definitely wins plenty of his own ball.

True but you're referencing a different stat.  It was contested marks, it could be explained by the fact he runs har to space and therefore not in a contested position when receiving kicks.   An interesting stat is the number of marks he takes per game as a compassion. 

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3 hours ago, darkhorse72 said:

True but you're referencing a different stat.  It was contested marks, it could be explained by the fact he runs har to space and therefore not in a contested position when receiving kicks.   An interesting stat is the number of marks he takes per game as a compassion. 

I referenced contested marks, and my point was that most of the top possession winners have barely taken a contested mark this season.

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Goodwin gifted us pick 5 peoples. 

He is a man that keeps on giving..