Can Tracc potentially re negotiate his contract with a potential new club? If he is so hell bent on getting out surely he would look at taking less money to make a move more likely. 

TDK and their first round pick would have me over the line today. Just make it end.

What????

5 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

Can Tracc potentially re negotiate his contract with a potential new club? If he is so hell bent on getting out surely he would look at taking less money to make a move more likely. 

There are other options like brown paper bags, realestate deals, employment and business opportunities for the family etc. Not suggesting it will happen in this case but it has happened in the past frequently.

Edited August 28, 2024Aug 28 by John Crow Batty

17 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

Weather it's all him or those around him or most likely both , the "strategy" has definitely hurt his "brand" .

Just say he does force his way out to what seemingly is his wish of only the Pies or Blues who fit the big club in the window criteria . How good will it be for his brand ( let alone his mental health) if he does not perform at the level expected which is highly possible given his injuries.

After selling the farm to get him the Pies or Blues fans are going to demand a Tracc at the top of his game relatively quickly and they are not the type of fans that will sit quietly and wait for him to perform. The groans of 60K Collingwood supporters at the G  isn't a happy place .  

What’s that saying “ there’s no such thing as bad publicity”. Brand Petracca actions over the past few weeks have ensured not matter what the outcome he will be the biggest AFL story between now and next season. He’s definitely hurt his Melbourne legacy but only time will tell if it’s hurt his brand.

If this time next year he has massive increased his following on socials will it be a net win for his brand?

3 minutes ago, John Crow Batty said:

There are other options like brown paper bags, realestate deals, employment and business opportunities for the family etc. Not suggesting it will happen in this case but it has happened in the past frequently.

Slight problem draftees like Reid can't be traded in their first 2/3 years.

This brand stuff is absolute nonsense.

Why do we have to hear about it or consider it?  

I'm not on social media and have never watched one of his cooking videos, but I love him playing football for us.  (Except when he blazes kicks into the sky and misfires from set shots, although that seems to have improved lately).

He is a footballer, paid to play football.

That's all I'm interested in and we're being hoodwinked into thinking he has a right to burn contracts and his club because of some nebulous Brand BS. It's an irrelevance.  

I'm prepared to give him some grace as I've posted before saying I don't think his mental health is great.   

He's confirmed that in an interview about having insomnia and needing counselling. 

That's not the time to make big life decisions.  He needs to bunker down and seek solace and support in the familiar.  Then when he's better he can think about big changes.  None of this augurs well for him unfortunately.  

And Christian whether you're playing for us or the enemy, you can shove your red hot brand up your hole. 

You'd have no money or brand without football and all the Demon fans who apparently mean nothing to you.  

Just now, djr said:

Slight problem draftees like Reid can't be traded in their first 2/3 years.

We’ll take them to the grievance tribunal. 

Oasis is getting back together after 15 years. There's still hope, Trac.

1 hour ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Look, I know the last couple of years has been "Kick Melbourne Football Club" season by the AFL and media, but I can't help feeling really flat about so many aspects.  Just when we think it can't get any worse, the media and AFL find new ways to get to new lows and it's exhausting from a fan's perspective.

The Petracca saga for me is pretty much the tipping point.  I get he's had a traumatic experience, and we're all sympathetic to that, but the whole handling of this I find flabbergasting, and frankly Trac has to shoulder a fair bit of the blame for that.  I'm at the point now where I don't really care if he stays at the club or goes, whether it's been his intention or not, the damage he's caused to the club is pretty much irreversible.  This is evidenced in the whole media discourse over the last couple of weeks, and yes, it's caused damage to his own branding, but the perception now is that his brand is the be all and end all.  Comments floating around along the lines of he wants to play at a bigger club, etc, I'm sorry, but is that an insult to us fans now?  Low blow, Trac, given the fans have been nothing but supportive to you. I don't care anymore if that's based of fact or rumour, he's had opportunity to speak the truth, but he's remained tight-lipped, and it's his silence that has created the media storm.  He's hurt my club.  I can't forgive him for that.  I used to have respect for him, but now, I don't.  

Couldn't have put it better.

2 minutes ago, Lexinator said:

Oasis is getting back together after 15 years. There's still hope, Trac.

Hopefully if they tour Australia they won't be as drunk as the last tour. They probably don't remember it. :-) I still have my tshirt!

Edited August 28, 2024Aug 28 by Demon4ever

2 minutes ago, Lexinator said:

Oasis is getting back together after 15 years. There's still hope, Trac.

Was gonna mention that here last night but whinging took priority.

5 minutes ago, Lexinator said:

Oasis is getting back together after 15 years. There's still hope, Trac.

Sally won't need to wait much longer.

25 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

AFL signed off on how his injury was managed. 
It is laughable to suggest that Trac didn’t say he wants to go back out and the doctor took this to me that he’s got nothing more than some broken ribs. 
 

I don’t support putting him back on the field, but let’s not pretend like this is something that never happens or Melbourne is solely to blame here. 
I’ve seen clubs allow players with clear head injuries back on the field. Not seeing those players try to burn their club as a result. 

Just like how Port managed concussion just last season, or was it 2 years ago?

8 minutes ago, Lexinator said:

Oasis is getting back together after 15 years. There's still hope, Trac.

Don't Look Back in Anger I heard Trac say.

25 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

AFL signed off on how his injury was managed. 
It is laughable to suggest that Trac didn’t say he wants to go back out and the doctor took this to me that he’s got nothing more than some broken ribs. 
 

I don’t support putting him back on the field, but let’s not pretend like this is something that never happens or Melbourne is solely to blame here. 
I’ve seen clubs allow players with clear head injuries back on the field. Not seeing those players try to burn their club as a result. 

Part of me thinks that the club's entire "We're not trading him" spiel has a lot to do with the fact his frustrations about his injury ultimately do sit with the AFL, and that they know that any potential push via the grievance council would likely fall in the club's favour. There is definitely a component of this that falls on the AFL, even from a branding perspective given he is one of the faces of the league and is essentially threatening to unravel an AFL entity in the club. It could well be the league here that is playing a role, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were already involved in a mediator role. There is a very complex trade scenario that would have to play out if he does leave. And given we are already hearing of official trade requests, the fact he is still silent suggests something is bubbling beneath the surface. Whether that's mediation or a genuine attempt to facilitate the trade we probably won't know until trade week.

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

Has it possibly got to the point, already, that Tracc remaining at Melbourne might have reached "untenable" ?? 

I'm just wondering if already past point of return 🤔 

Winning teams rely on synergy..... all folk going the same way... the sum greater than the parts etc.  Even the slightest disharmonies bring that undone. I'm pretty sure some of our lacklustre efforts this year had more sinister reasons than just 'form'

Going to be very  interesting how this all plays out. Ramifications are immense.

Untenable?? Nar far worse than that now

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I'm keen to get people's thoughts, if Trac was keen for a move to Brisbane and they were keen on him (very possible if they don't win a flag again) would posters take Rayner and Bailey for Trac?

I can honestly see a world where we could sway them both to come home with longer contracts and bigger salaries. Plus we could probably offer both more midfield minutes.

1 minute ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

I'm keen to get people's thoughts, if Trac was keen for a move to Brisbane and they were keen on him (very possible if they don't win a flag again) would posters take Rayner and Bailey for Trac?

I can honestly see a world where we could sway them both to come home with longer contracts and bigger salaries. Plus we could probably offer both more midfield minutes.

Brisbane wouldn't have the cap space for starters. And the chances of Trac moving away from Victoria are negative 3. 

Rayner is inconsistent at best. I would want Coleman (pending he passes a medical on the knee), who gives us that ball use and speed off half back that we really need. 

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Anyone got links to the Grievance Tribunal - Want to get in before CP5

2 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Well, we're still here so he must still be here.

Funny how true colours show through and I'm having to suggest his aren't Red and Blue....    more Pineapple / Avocado 😉 

In one sense I feel sorry for the lad. His injury will not have been pleasant.  I think worse, his guidance by 'others' is taking him down a rabbit hole of no return.

He seems easily suggestible. 

Careful what you wish for Christian.

Now.....wonder how many pages we can chew through today ;) 

Again...feel the angst the "little CP5's" are going to feel in coming months

Get it done Melbourne ( most likely after finals of course )....

Out damn spot.....

Quite an oration Beez

Club knew of Petracca having issues but never ever expected it to get to the point he is being this petulent.

1. Petracca was told EARLY by his management he can't leave, it can't be done. He still pushed the issue.
2. He's been told by other clubs they don't have the assets, he is still pushing the issue.
3. He's been told by Melbourne they will not trade him under any circumstances, he's still pushing the issue.

He knows it can't be done, and the only option from here is to work through things BUT HE IS STILL instead trying to force a way out the club.

His teammates are pretty sick of it, and I don't blame them.

Melbourne would trade him if the right offer came along, mainly because of how fed up the players are with his antics, but will not approach clubs with offers to make it known they'd be open to trading him. 

Petracca's own management has also told him it's time to be leader and his behaviour is costing the club the ability to approach other players, and he's still acting like a prat

Petracca FC in his mind

 

I genuinely believe that many people here are significantly overestimating the potential trade value we could get for Petracca, regardless of whether we consider his recent injuries or not. Even without factoring in those setbacks, it's important to recognize that we're also not accounting for the challenges of attracting contracted players from other clubs who might be interested in joining the Demons.

Petracca hasn’t just put his own future with the Dees in jeopardy; through his grievances, he's cast a shadow over the entire Melbourne Football Club. His actions have made the club appear dysfunctional, adding to an already problematic narrative that the MFC has struggled with for years. Sure the MFC has contributed to that perception but this situation has further highlighted the issues and magnified them significantly.

This entire situation has turned into a public relations disaster for everyone involved. Fairly or unfairly, it has tarnished our image, reinforcing the perception that we are far from being a Destination Club. It’s a mess that has left us looking less appealing to potential recruits, and that’s a serious issue moving forward.

Even a flag didn't make us a Destination Club.