30 minutes ago, Dee Boys said:

 

Melbourne will not trade Christian Petracca under any circumstance with Demons powerbrokers on Monday night emphatic that suggestions he could play elsewhere in 2025 were wildly inaccurate.

Petracca, 28, attended Saturday night’s match against Port Adelaide at the MCG as he recovers from a lacerated spleen and was walking laps of the tan in the hours before that clash.

The 2021 Norm Smith Medallist is still not allowed to get his heart rate above 110 and the family was disgruntled with his medical treatment following internal injuries sustained in the King’s Birthday blockbuster against Collingwood, where he was allowed to return to the field.

 

A major part of the Petraccas’ frustration was the isolation. In the first 10 days following the injury he had not seen anyone other than his parents and his fiancee.

But senior club sources were at pains to stress that Petracca was not going anywhere despite reports he was disillusioned with the club’s direction.

While Petracca was disgruntled, it is understood there is no bad blood that would result in the four-time All-Australian demanding an exit.

Petracca is contracted until 2029 on a $1 million per season deal and remains critical to the club’s hopes of rebounding up the ladder in 2025.

 

The Demons are confident they will remain in premiership contention and have rejuvenated their playing list this season.

The club has handed five players their AFL debut – behind only Richmond, North Melbourne and Collingwood (all six) – and have repeatedly fielded one of the youngest line-ups in the AFL.

New players Blake Howes, Caleb Windsor, Koltyn Tholstrup, Kynan Brown and Andy Moniz-Wakefield have all displayed encouraging signs.

Petracca’s injury also opened the door for Trent Rivers to shine as an onballer while Judd McVee has also had brief stints in the midfield where he has shown similar promise.

What I enjoy most about this is the obvious disdain between channel 9 and the herald sun. This is basically a, no you’re full of sheet channel 9.

12 minutes ago, watchtheeyes said:

Seriously this whole thread is a sad indictment on the mindset of large swathes of the Melbourne supporter base..

Tom Morris.. Tom Morris, off all people, throws out an unsourced piece of ambulance chasing “journalism” and such is the desperate despair of the MFC fans, we immediately accept it as fact, reach for our pitchforks and seek to burn the barn down.

Get a grip. 

Agree. It was more click bait journalism from misogynist Morris.
 

Actually it shows THE REAL PASSION of our MFC supporters.  No skiers here. Just posters that love the footy club and emotional to see club at its best.  

54 minutes ago, middleagedemon said:

 

The only conclusion I can come to is that you're a relative of Saty. 

I'd actually genuinely love to hear an opinion of yours regarding our list, game-plan, observations on what's needed/not needed. 

Just anything really? 

Some thoughts of your own?

And ... 'Crickets'.

2 minutes ago, layzie said:

I thought PJ was going to sign up Roos then and there on that show!

We were going through one of the darkest years ever in Melbourne's history and I think every supporter was hanging off PJ's word that night. 

He sold us all hope and boy did he deliver. 

Tom Morris you lurking troll, you are a proper Cee U Next Tuesday.

If he is a member, then I'd pay for the club to cancel his membership. 

I always thought chicken little was a fairy tale, I see now it's a parable.

Club is not going anywhere, Tracc is not going anywhere, but change is coming, hot tip, won't be the coach either.

Tall poppy syndrome is alive and well. 2021 we were it, media been trying to cut us down ever since and too many peahearts believe every bad thing said.

6 minutes ago, Demonsterative said:

I’ll speak on behalf of @WalkingCivilWar and myself here Dazzle. 
 

It’s not rent free, it’s Air BNB rates
 

You’re behind in your rent BTW. 
 

😳🤩🤓😂

ok

3 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

And ... 'Crickets'.

Errytime. 

3 minutes ago, middleagedemon said:

I was quoting a part of your post, which was in reference to the media not criticising clubs in Essendon and Collingwood the same way they do with Melbourne.

Which is just blatantly untrue. 

That is victim talk. 

Sorry to mislead you. I was not referring to past reporting I was referring to current issues.

WE and all clubs have certainly endured many past media storms which quickly die. Its part of the industry. The pile on of Trac just seemed disproportionate to the current issues.

We are not the only team victims of the variable umpiring interpretations. I am reconciled to that fact as it is a consequence of the entertainment nature of the game.

We are all just victims here of our own desire,  was a line from a song I believe from the Eagles .

Dont apply it to me please. I am not a victim I am a demons supporter

Is there a chance that this thread will overtake the Jackson one for the most pages with the least amount of insight?

Regardless of the validity of the reporting, only good things can come of this imv

No damage done, as long as the correct changes are made, none of this will be remembered come round 1 next year and we'll be on our way. 

 

Edited August 12, 2024Aug 12 by middleagedemon

1 minute ago, middleagedemon said:

Regardless of the validity of the reporting, only good things can come of this imv

No damage done, as long as the correct changes are made, none of this will be remembered come round 1 next year and we'll be on our way. 

 

In your opinion what are the changes that need to be made?

2 hours ago, middleagedemon said:

Obviously we all want the club to succeed. Those of us who have seen some worrying signs now have wondered if there are some things going on behind the scenes and it turns out that we're correct. 

I'm not so sure about this anymore. I think there are different levels of care and wanting the club to succeed.

A) The majority of us that want the club to succeed year on year, winning matters and they want the FD held to high standards. 

B) The people that want success but aren't going to give anyone a hard time if it doesn't happen. Will support the club no matter what. 

C) The ones where winning is nice but not everything. Football might be more of a social thing to them than about the team's fortunes.

None of these are wrong of course but can cause communication breakdowns. Person A may as well be talking Chinese if person C reads their thoughts in a thread like this. 

 

Edited August 12, 2024Aug 12 by layzie

9 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I'm not sure why you're on the attack DubDee. My apologies if my post made it seem like I was being argumentative.

There's certainly more than just a tweet now. There's widespread media coverage of this, and generally I think it's accepted it's best to deal with these kind of things when they reach this level rather than let them fester. Personally, I don't particularly like Tom Morris, but that doesn't mean he's wrong - and he has been correct about Melbourne things in the past. We as footy fans tend to believe the positive media rumours (ala Houston currently) and dismiss the negative ones. I guess that's our nature as defensive fans who have been through a lot.

I don't want to derail the thread, but to address your second point:

Pert's comments around 'the best culture he's ever seen' now ring pretty hollow after Smith, Oliver and now Petracca. That seems to me a lot like an 'over-promise' scenario.

As does Roffey's 2021 comments about us being set for an amazing 10 years of success and building a dynasty (I don't remember the exact comments, but that was the crux of it). Her comments this year (?) about telling supporters to 'make more noise' were also poorly thought out. Demanding that of an incredibly loyal fan base who have not only seen minimal success but are enduring a very dour game style showed a lack of understanding of how to communicate with fans.

Don't get me wrong, I think both have been great for our club, and I've only heard good things about how Pert operates, but that communication piece has been off the mark.

Again, that's my opinion, and I've done my best to provide you with factual evidence to back it up, but it is still just opinion.

Not on the attack mate, just asking reasonable questions. 

I question posters when i feel they state things as fact with little to back it up. But I appreciate you providing some context to your posts

We have baseless media nonsense. We are an easy target. Kozzi was going to leave, Petty 100% gone to SA. Meanwhile we have signed every player we wanted to aside from LJ. That is a remarkable record  

Roffey has been too confident and thinks we have a great future after our flag? Sure she has been proven wrong so far but i’d personally like our leadership to think positively 

 

Tom Morris: Hi Christian Petracca. If you were out of contract tomorrow, and a club offered you $5mil a season for six more seasons, would you seek a trade?

Christian Petracca: Yes.

Tom Morris: In a bombshell admission, Christian Petracca states he would seek a trade tomorrow, if he were out of contract. 

If I could go back in time, have my spine removed, and become a weak man with no morals or integrity, I reckon I’d make a great journalist. 

Edited August 12, 2024Aug 12 by Ethan Tremblay

5 minutes ago, layzie said:

I'm not so sure about this anymore. I think there are different levels of care and wanting the club to succeed.

A) The majority of us that want the club to succeed year on year, winning matters and they want the FD held to high standards. 

B) The people that want success but aren't going to give anyone a hard time if it doesn't happen. Will support the club no matter what. 

C) The ones where winning is nice but not everything. Football might be more of a social thing to them than about the team's fortunes.

None of these are wrong of course but can cause communication breakdowns. Person A may as well be talking Chinese if person C reads their thoughts in a thread like this. 

 

I’m in the AAA group. Winning is everything. If your not first your last etc etc. 

Just on the HS article, I don’t understand how the following relates to being upset with the club: A major part of the Petraccas’ frustration was the isolation. In the first 10 days following the injury he had not seen anyone other than his parents andhis fiancee.

 

 

1 minute ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Just on the HS article, I don’t understand how the following relates to being upset with the club: A major part of the Petraccas’ frustration was the isolation. In the first 10 days following the injury he had not seen anyone other than his parents andhis fiancee.

 

 

I think he’s attempting to suggest that no officials from the club visited him. 

30 minutes ago, watchtheeyes said:

Seriously this whole thread is a sad indictment on the mindset of large swathes of the Melbourne supporter base..

Tom Morris.. Tom Morris, off all people, throws out an unsourced piece of ambulance chasing “journalism” and such is the desperate despair of the MFC fans, we immediately accept it as fact, reach for our pitchforks and seek to burn the barn down.

Get a grip. 

Tom Morris just brought it into the mainstream. I've heard for weeks, and with a few others on here, that he's been disgruntled with the club. 

1 hour ago, Dee Boys said:

 

Melbourne will not trade Christian Petracca under any circumstance with Demons powerbrokers on Monday night emphatic that suggestions he could play elsewhere in 2025 were wildly inaccurate.

Petracca, 28, attended Saturday night’s match against Port Adelaide at the MCG as he recovers from a lacerated spleen and was walking laps of the tan in the hours before that clash.

The 2021 Norm Smith Medallist is still not allowed to get his heart rate above 110 and the family was disgruntled with his medical treatment following internal injuries sustained in the King’s Birthday blockbuster against Collingwood, where he was allowed to return to the field.

 

A major part of the Petraccas’ frustration was the isolation. In the first 10 days following the injury he had not seen anyone other than his parents and his fiancee.

But senior club sources were at pains to stress that Petracca was not going anywhere despite reports he was disillusioned with the club’s direction.

While Petracca was disgruntled, it is understood there is no bad blood that would result in the four-time All-Australian demanding an exit.

Petracca is contracted until 2029 on a $1 million per season deal and remains critical to the club’s hopes of rebounding up the ladder in 2025.

 

The Demons are confident they will remain in premiership contention and have rejuvenated their playing list this season.

The club has handed five players their AFL debut – behind only Richmond, North Melbourne and Collingwood (all six) – and have repeatedly fielded one of the youngest line-ups in the AFL.

New players Blake Howes, Caleb Windsor, Koltyn Tholstrup, Kynan Brown and Andy Moniz-Wakefield have all displayed encouraging signs.

Petracca’s injury also opened the door for Trent Rivers to shine as an onballer while Judd McVee has also had brief stints in the midfield where he has shown similar promise.

QED

Time to close the thread - or at least bed it down for the night.

Goodnight.

3 hours ago, deegirl said:

I’m going to be in the minority of minority here but if these reports are true I’m unimpressed with Trac’s attitude.  It’s giving massive ‘I’m more important than the collective’ energy

 

And don’t bother with the outraged replies I know I’m alone in this 

Depends, if it's just a case of him sitting down with the club and addressing his concerns then nothing wrong with that.

3 hours ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Morris is a Melbourne supporter

So maybe it’s Morris who, like many of us, is frustrated with the direction the club has been taking, and is using his position in the media to invent a scenario, using Trac as his ‘foil’, in an effort to get them to do something.

27 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

He's living rent free inside your heads.

 

Wait a sec… are you telling me he’s paying rent to live in yours?!?!

24 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

I think he’s attempting to suggest that no officials from the club visited him. 

Yes because he was in isolation, hence nobody was allowed to visit him. Maybe he’s upset that the club didn’t maintain contact with him while he was in isolation. That makes more sense. 
Imagine Goody turning up and giving Trac a secondary infection. Tom Morris would be frothing! 

1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

Yes because he was in isolation, hence nobody was allowed to visit him. Maybe he’s upset that the club didn’t maintain contact with him while he was in isolation. That makes more sense. 
Imagine Goody turning up and giving Trac a secondary infection. Tom Morris would be frothing! 

it would be classic Tom Morris to suggest that noone visited Trac while he was in medical isolation because we just don't care about him haha.

How this bloke got another gig in the media after his shameful comments and treatment of women is baffling, the guy is a joke. 

Devils advocate here:

But if we can't trade Oliver, can't trade Fritsch for fair value, can't get enough picks or cap space to bring in players and hit the draft effectively is there not some value to trading Tracc if the price is absolutely the top of the market? By that I mean a proven young player and a very high pick.

I just worry Tracc's lack of tank and dodgy kicking means he isn't the midfielder he once was and he's always going to be a bit iffy as a forward with his set shots.

I think the preferred option is a retool and build around what we have and Tracc is the number 1 piece of that but if we can't make moves that improve both our draft and trade hands it is going to be very difficult to pull off.

The club is right to say he's untradeable but with our list the way it is nothing should be truly off the table.