48 minutes ago, Tracca said:

i spose he wouldnt be playing with Harry McKay if they were both traded :)

No, but the other 43 players on the blues list certainly would.

3 minutes ago, praha said:

The next step now is for Petracca's camp (and potentially Collingwood or Carlton) to start over-cooking his injuries to bring his trade value down. Continue making his place at the club untenable, force a trade, and get it at value.

Bookmark it. I reckon within 7 days we'll see a report about how he'll never be the same player again yada yada yada.

Yeah this is how its going.

The bridge burning, the make it untenible and now the 'he is a broken 29 year old on the way out.

So he destroys his value and also makes sure no one else wants to come here. 

Dees need to actually behave like a big club now, not reactive. Either we hold on to him and potentially wait until he has no value like we have done countless times, or we get ruthless and send him to Gold Coast or Freo and get a 24 year old mid that actually has speed.

5 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I think the only part we disagree on who is to blame for the media leaking. I have absolutely no doubt myself it's coming from Christian and his connections, and that would be a big part of the reason why there's talk now of players being upset with him. 

I agree with you. If you have an exit interview, surely there's only a couple of people in the room. Surely it would consist of a medical screening, player welfare and coaching/performance, well being....I think he would be leaking it to a connection. 

BTW - the person here claiming he didnt attend the 'mad monday' event must not be aware that its a wacky wednesday this year.

11 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

Speaking of Burning Bridges...

 

( a fav ;) ) 

Up yours baby !! 

 

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5 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Who proposed that? Do we want to make it public knowledge we think he may be a banged up 29yo?

Just some Collingwood fan on Twitter/X , the proposed trades being suggested by opposition fans online is the only part of this situation I can laugh about. 

Only Melbourne supporters would:

- question who is doing the leaks without having the base level logic of determining who would benefit from these leaks and who wouldnt.

- accept a ridiculous trade suggestion like McKay as actually having legs or merit. 

Isn’t Trac getting married over the summer? Imagine bringing all this upon yourself when you’re supposed to be looking forward to the happiest day of your life. This has totally backfired on him.

1 minute ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Isn’t Trac getting married over the summer? Imagine bringing all this upon yourself when you’re supposed to be looking forward to the happiest day of your life. This has totally backfired on him.

Has it ? Will it ??  

My gut feeling is that he is probably right in that the club were too soft on some misbehaving players and the net result was the pending investigation.

My gut feeling is that he has also approached this the wrong way and is now forcing the Dees hand. 

Melbourne have in the past sometimes seemed risk adverse to trading. Petty is an example. He looked good, but he stated he wanted to go home. We could have got a decent trade for him. 

Time to finally really be ruthless for mine. 

5 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Well this escalated pretty quickly.....

He said, but he said, no he said.....  well I heard he said he said he hadn't said.....

Mad Monday descended into FU all Tuesday at a great rate of knots !!

This is gunna end in tears..... lots of little Dees too young to understand why CP5 doesn't love us any more...  All those little jumpers with No. 5  

Will no one think of the children...

1) Very surprised if Trac is at the Dees much longer

2) Who has the currency ?? 

3) don't discount the Filth

4) We won't get true value.....we never do.

5) the sun will set and rise again tomorrow 

6) a lot more water to go under the bridge yet ;)

No.
This one we have to dig in Hard.

If the Club bends over on this one, we are Stuffed, a 7 year deal was signed, big money. 
IF there is a trade to be done in future, it Must be on MFC Terms 

Wacky Wednesday!!! Should be interesting if Trac turns up.  I hope he respects his teammates and enjoys the day.  Politics aside. All teammates should attend.  

32 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I think the club has held their tongue as long as they could, but now it’s time for the club to make it clear to Trac that this behavior is not going to cause us to bend over backwards. 
Maybe the club thinks that if the relationship sours on our end, and Trac knows he won’t be welcomed back, that HE would have to compromise on the club he goes to.
And that club will be the one that offers us the best deal, NOT the club that makes Trac the most amount of money on social media. 
 

Trac can’t have it all his way. He chose to leak the stuff to the media. Does he expect us to sit there and be used as his personal punching bag to achieve his own agenda? 
 

All that may be correct.  . 

But who is going to be the 'bigger person' and try and sort it out rather than beat each other over the head in the media.  I see only the club can initiate that.

To some extent I wonder if it suits the club to have this horrible side show as it detracts from the other issues at the club.  While not specific the club has said there are issues.  Christian could end up being the fall guy in more ways than one. 

tbh, I'm shattered at what is happening to Christian, to our beloved club, to us supporters. 

As I've said the only way I see an end to the public agony is to get a mediator.  I wonder what happened to that 'Leading Teams' that worked with PJ in the early days.  Then one of that team stayed as PJ's direct advisor.   (Note it wasn't the same team the Crows used.)

 

I've tried hard to not play the blame game, consider both sides and seek a path to a resolution one way or the other; a futile quest.  Anyway, I'm out.

Edited August 27, 2024Aug 27 by Lucifers Hero

Just now, spirit of norm smith said:

Wacky Wednesday!!! Should be interesting if Trac turns up.  I hope he respects his teammates and enjoys the day.  Politics aside. All teammates should attend.  

No way he is there. That is my call. Guarantee that is the story Thursday.

Like most of us, my thoughts have changed a lot over the saga. It now seems clear to me that Petracca's team are doing the leaking, which has successfully created a position where it is almost untenable for him to stay; the club has done exactly the right thing by continually pointing to his contract, thus reminding everyone that he won't come cheap.

1 minute ago, SPC said:

This might be the wishes of his fiancée to enhancing his brand and her earning capacity. I’d say that he is trying to keep her happy. 
He has [censored] on his brand.. he is also a very average cook.. there, I said it!!

Are you suggesting that a parma with bolognese sauce on top isnt a revolution in the culinary arts?

7 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Isn’t Trac getting married over the summer? Imagine bringing all this upon yourself when you’re supposed to be looking forward to the happiest day of your life. This has totally backfired on him.

Maybe he wants the media attention for the wedding….

17 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

I think the club has held their tongue as long as they could, but now it’s time for the club to make it clear to Trac that this behavior is not going to cause us to bend over backwards. 
Maybe the club thinks that if the relationship sours on our end, and Trac knows he won’t be welcomed back, that HE would have to compromise on the club he goes to.
And that club will be the one that offers us the best deal, NOT the club that makes Trac the most amount of money on social media. 
 

Trac can’t have it all his way. He chose to leak the stuff to the media. Does he expect us to sit there and be used as his personal punching bag to achieve his own agenda? 
 

This is it.

It will come down to one thing, do you want out or not? If you want out then despite your long term deal we may be able to facilitate this and come back to your agent with potential suitors. 

If this is the players way of loopholing their way out of long term deals then we need to stand firm and say this is how it is. 

Edited August 26, 2024Aug 26 by layzie

29 minutes ago, Jjrogan said:

Any trade with the Pies obviously has to involve Beau McCreery 

we should trade for maynard. then both sets of fans can boo him kings birthday.

11 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Regardless of whether Trac has legitimate complaints about the club, and I am sure he does by the way, are you really ok for him to trash the club publicly? Because his teammates sure aren’t. 

This goes against everything a good leader would do. You don’t turn your entire team against you in some deluded effort to force change. Because now the only change that’s being forced here is getting rid of Trac. 

To think Trac's name was being thrown around at one stage as future captain material.  I'll wait until the dust has properly settled until I make my final judgement, but I'm not looking favourably on his performance at the moment.

Contrast Trac's public actions over the past few weeks with that of Gawn and Viney and you can see who the real leaders are at the club.

Probably leaves Jake Lever as next in line to the captaincy IMHO.

Edited August 27, 2024Aug 27 by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

Looking at other club forums (yes I know its sad), the general concensus seems he will be too expensive for his age. 

I wonder if he has ever considered a scenario where he stays at Melbourne? Will he and May have overt screaming matches on the field?

Just now, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

To think Trac's name was being thrown around at one stage as future captain material.  I'll wait until the dust has properly settled until I make my final judgement, but I'm not looking favourably on his performance at the moment.

Contrast Trac's public actions over the past few weeks with that of Gawn and Viney and you can see who the real leaders are at the club.

Probably leave Jake Lever as next in line to the captaincy IMHO.

Lever ABSOLUTELY has to be the next captain. Stoic, smart and well spoken. And able to actually predict the right thing to say. 

2 hours ago, Ungarieboy said:

Starting point - Trac is worth at least 3 first round picks comprising a minimu. 2 top 10 (1 being in the first 5). 

Any players involved bust would only replace 1 of these picks.

 

 

So essentially you are looking at Richmond, Fremantle or Gold Coast.

Should we trade him we need to make a massive play at Harley Reid.  We would have the cap space and draft picks, plus a lot of WA boys the WCE might be interested in.

2 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Lever ABSOLUTELY has to be the next captain. Stoic, smart and well spoken. And able to actually predict the right thing to say. 

recent form hasn't been great.

47 minutes ago, danielE288 said:

Regardless of this, weve still got one of the most fickle fanbases in Football, even when were winning we dont draw big crowds, So I share Trac's frustration here.

Is it a frustration though?  Sure we've had a pretty poor year after Rnd 4, with few exceptions, but other teams are still well below us on the average attendance ladder yet you don't see / hear any of their stars making this an issue or cause for concern.

Tracc being out also was a massive blow to any chances we had of making finals.  Does he understand that i wonder?

The Bont is easily up there or even ahead of Tracc in a star / performance / impact sense.  There was talk of 'unrest' with Bevo early in the season.  "He might not see out the season" etc.

But you never hear of their super star or anyone at the Dogs being upset about crowd numbers and wanting to go play for a big Vic club for the sake of 'their brand'.  That's not to say Tracc is doing so either but regardless why does this only get raised in the media when they discuss our club?

Now i'm not saying Tracc doesn't see this as an issue.  Maybe he does.  But if he does, i'd say that speaks more about Tracc than it does about the club.

Ok so raise it as a concern, but if you're a genuine team / clubman and just signed a 7 year multi million dollar deal, surely you look at ways to improve this side and sit down and work things out like adults?  How much love do you have for your club and team mates?  Hopefully more than many in the media would have us believe.

Having said that i don't think this is at the top of his gripe list and may not be an issue at all.  There must be other issues that has seen this alleged impass occur that are of more signifance surely?  It would have to be something pretty mega for a club's equally biggest star to ask to break a 7 year comtract only 2.years in yes?

Let's face it, Tracc could easily put any congecture to bed and come out publicly (alongside Goody?) and say so.  Maybe he still will but the non-appearance on Fri night has sent the media into a frenzy.

Let's hope the relationship is not beyond repair and they can all get in a room together and sort their stuff out.

It seems ironic to me that one of our biggest stars, who was injured and put in hospital by a player from the filth who had genuine intent to hurt, then allegedly wants to join someone like the filth ie; with a culture that ended Gus's career and nearly ended his.  This makes no sense at all and for me is a WTF moment if true.

If you made this story up and posted it online as a scenario prior to the event, no one would believe you and you'd be called out as a nutter.

Which then begs the question, how the hec did things end up here?

There are two sides and many complications to every story.  I'm happy to sit back and wait to hear from Tracc but surely if our NS premiership star has any genuine love left for his present club, he needs to move through this quickly and sort it.  As the longer this drags on the worse things will be for everyone involved and may leave a scar that could take quite a while to heal over.

Edited August 27, 2024Aug 27 by Demon Dynasty