Christian Petracca

[Young Angus 683]

7 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

Is McKay enough in return?

Absolutely not, we don't need him dammit, maybe TDK would be a better starting point.

[Deeko2 766]

59 minutes ago, Colm said:

I actually think the club is playing this well. Saying there’s no chance he will be traded.  I’m wondering if Trac is backing himself into a corner and may have to go to the highest bidder just to get out as he’s burnt his bridges. 

 

I actually thought this as well.  Just sit quietly and let him back himself into a corner where he must be traded and we then have the power in sending him to whoever presents the best deal.

I was in the 100% keep until 24 hours ago and now happy to let him go.  The off-season could still work out ok if we manage something like:

- Trac out for McKay + Carlton future first round
- ANB out for Adelaide's second rounder
- Our future first out for Gold Coast pick 6
- Carlton future first and our current second round out for Dan Houston

So losing Trac, ANB and a future first and bringing in McKay, Houston, P5 and P6 (two gun midfielders) would be a farily amazing result.

Doubt McKay and Houston would want to come however and I'd rather players over picks anyway.

[Jjrogan 1,391]

1 minute ago, roy11 said:

Another proposed trade

- Petracca to Pies
- Pies Future 2nd and Reef McInnes to Dees.
 

CP is a seriously injured 29 y.o. with $6,000,000 left on his current deal. A huge risk.

Any trade with the Pies obviously has to involve Beau McCreery 

[Deelectable 1,043]

Maybe I've missed something . Is it possible to have someone please post clear and factual evidence that Trac wants out? As far as I can tell it's pretty much all the diatribe from the reprobates McClure and Morris. Also, most of those articles come with the rider something along the lines of "Christian may stay at the Demons". Because so called 'jungle drums are beating' doesn't mean it's reality. A short time Viney was gone and for what seemed like ages so was Clarry. Both totally inaccurate.  I'll believe it when I see it.

[Young Angus 683]

Love Gary, put him in charge of this mess seriously, others all out Gary in to rebuild club from top down!

[Lucifers Hero 38,841]

1 minute ago, FreedFromDesire said:

Completely agree it's messy. However I think Melbourne haven't done anything 'wrong' as such, but it would be interesting to know if they've gone too hard in the messaging publicly with the 'you're contracted, you're staying' narrative. It would definitely be complicated, and there's no doubt Christian would have some very valid issues with the club, so I'm with you on not totally trusting the club to be able to sort it out themselves.

I guess we will never know where all the leaks are coming from.

The club has acknowledged there are issues among which are player complaints.  What I think the club is responsible for is allowing things to get to the point where the club is divided.

I don't know who is advising the club on its comms but as you say it is very messy and imv sometimes inconsistent.  I didn't like the hard line on 'contracted'. 

imv the club just has to get this to a negotiating table and get it out of the media as best as one can.

 

[FreedFromDesire 553]

3 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I guess we will never know where all the leaks are coming from.

The club has acknowledged there are issues among which are player complaints.  What I think the club is responsible for is allowing things to get to the point where the club is divided.

I don't know who is advising the club on its comms but as you say it is very messy and imv sometimes inconsistent.  I didn't like the hard line on 'contracted'. 

imv the club just has to get this to a negotiating table and get it out of the media as best as one can.

I think the only part we disagree on who is to blame for the media leaking. I have absolutely no doubt myself it's coming from Christian and his connections, and that would be a big part of the reason why there's talk now of players being upset with him. 

[praha 11,096]

The next step now is for Petracca's camp (and potentially Collingwood or Carlton) to start over-cooking his injuries to bring his trade value down. Continue making his place at the club untenable, force a trade, and get it at value.

Bookmark it. I reckon within 7 days we'll see a report about how he'll never be the same player again yada yada yada.

[Jaded No More 67,469]

5 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I guess we will never know where all the leaks are coming from.

The club has acknowledged there are issues among which are player complaints.  What I think the club is responsible for is allowing things to get to the point where the club is divided.

I don't know who is advising the club on its comms but as you say it is very messy and imv sometimes inconsistent.  I didn't like the hard line on 'contracted'. 

imv the club just has to get this to a negotiating table and get it out of the media as best as one can.

 

I think the club has held their tongue as long as they could, but now it’s time for the club to make it clear to Trac that this behavior is not going to cause us to bend over backwards. 
Maybe the club thinks that if the relationship sours on our end, and Trac knows he won’t be welcomed back, that HE would have to compromise on the club he goes to.
And that club will be the one that offers us the best deal, NOT the club that makes Trac the most amount of money on social media. 
 

Trac can’t have it all his way. He chose to leak the stuff to the media. Does he expect us to sit there and be used as his personal punching bag to achieve his own agenda? 
 

[daisycutter 29,248]

10 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Regardless of whether Trac has legitimate complaints about the club, and I am sure he does by the way, are you really ok for him to trash the club publicly? Because his teammates sure aren’t. 

This goes against everything a good leader would do. You don’t turn your entire team against you in some deluded effort to force change. Because now the only change that’s being forced here is getting rid of Trac. 

[dice 667]

10 minutes ago, Young Angus said:

Love Gary, put him in charge of this mess seriously, others all out Gary in to rebuild club from top down!

Like he did when he chose Bailey as coach and then recommended Neeld? No thanks

Edited August 26 by dice

[roy11 3,641]

1 minute ago, praha said:

The next step now is for Petracca's camp (and potentially Collingwood or Carlton) to start over-cooking his injuries to bring his trade value down. Continue making his place at the club untenable, force a trade, and get it at value.

Bookmark it. I reckon within 7 days we'll see a report about how he'll never be the same player again yada yada yada.

Doubt think Petracca would let anyone over-cook, as he's worried the correlation will impact his cooking brand/insta

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,413]

12 minutes ago, roy11 said:

Another proposed trade

- Petracca to Pies
- Pies Future 2nd and Reef McInnes to Dees.
 

CP is a seriously injured 29 y.o. with $6,000,000 left on his current deal. A huge risk.

Who proposed that? Do we want to make it public knowledge we think he may be a banged up 29yo?

[beelzebub 23,131]

Well this escalated pretty quickly.....

He said, but he said, no he said.....  well I heard he said he said he hadn't said.....

Mad Monday descended into FU all Tuesday at a great rate of knots !!

This is gunna end in tears..... lots of little Dees too young to understand why CP5 doesn't love us any more...  All those little jumpers with No. 5  

Will no one think of the children...

1) Very surprised if Trac is at the Dees much longer

2) Who has the currency ?? 

3) don't discount the Filth

4) We won't get true value.....we never do.

5) the sun will set and rise again tomorrow 

6) a lot more water to go under the bridge yet ;)

[binman 41,894]

48 minutes ago, Tracca said:

i spose he wouldnt be playing with Harry McKay if they were both traded :)

No, but the other 43 players on the blues list certainly would.

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,413]

3 minutes ago, praha said:

The next step now is for Petracca's camp (and potentially Collingwood or Carlton) to start over-cooking his injuries to bring his trade value down. Continue making his place at the club untenable, force a trade, and get it at value.

Bookmark it. I reckon within 7 days we'll see a report about how he'll never be the same player again yada yada yada.

Yeah this is how its going.

The bridge burning, the make it untenible and now the 'he is a broken 29 year old on the way out.

So he destroys his value and also makes sure no one else wants to come here. 

Dees need to actually behave like a big club now, not reactive. Either we hold on to him and potentially wait until he has no value like we have done countless times, or we get ruthless and send him to Gold Coast or Freo and get a 24 year old mid that actually has speed.

[Demon4ever 173]

5 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I think the only part we disagree on who is to blame for the media leaking. I have absolutely no doubt myself it's coming from Christian and his connections, and that would be a big part of the reason why there's talk now of players being upset with him. 

I agree with you. If you have an exit interview, surely there's only a couple of people in the room. Surely it would consist of a medical screening, player welfare and coaching/performance, well being....I think he would be leaking it to a connection. 

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,413]

BTW - the person here claiming he didnt attend the 'mad monday' event must not be aware that its a wacky wednesday this year.

[beelzebub 23,131]

11 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

Speaking of Burning Bridges...

 

( a fav ;) ) 

Up yours baby !! 

 

Edited August 26 by beelzebub

[roy11 3,641]

5 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Who proposed that? Do we want to make it public knowledge we think he may be a banged up 29yo?

Just some Collingwood fan on Twitter/X , the proposed trades being suggested by opposition fans online is the only part of this situation I can laugh about. 

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,413]

Only Melbourne supporters would:

- question who is doing the leaks without having the base level logic of determining who would benefit from these leaks and who wouldnt.

- accept a ridiculous trade suggestion like McKay as actually having legs or merit. 

[At the break of Gawn 4,398]

Isn’t Trac getting married over the summer? Imagine bringing all this upon yourself when you’re supposed to be looking forward to the happiest day of your life. This has totally backfired on him.

[beelzebub 23,131]

1 minute ago, At the break of Gawn said:

Isn’t Trac getting married over the summer? Imagine bringing all this upon yourself when you’re supposed to be looking forward to the happiest day of your life. This has totally backfired on him.

Has it ? Will it ??  

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,413]

My gut feeling is that he is probably right in that the club were too soft on some misbehaving players and the net result was the pending investigation.

My gut feeling is that he has also approached this the wrong way and is now forcing the Dees hand. 

Melbourne have in the past sometimes seemed risk adverse to trading. Petty is an example. He looked good, but he stated he wanted to go home. We could have got a decent trade for him. 

Time to finally really be ruthless for mine. 

[Sir Why You Little 36,554]

5 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Well this escalated pretty quickly.....

He said, but he said, no he said.....  well I heard he said he said he hadn't said.....

Mad Monday descended into FU all Tuesday at a great rate of knots !!

This is gunna end in tears..... lots of little Dees too young to understand why CP5 doesn't love us any more...  All those little jumpers with No. 5  

Will no one think of the children...

1) Very surprised if Trac is at the Dees much longer

2) Who has the currency ?? 

3) don't discount the Filth

4) We won't get true value.....we never do.

5) the sun will set and rise again tomorrow 

6) a lot more water to go under the bridge yet ;)

No.
This one we have to dig in Hard.

If the Club bends over on this one, we are Stuffed, a 7 year deal was signed, big money. 
IF there is a trade to be done in future, it Must be on MFC Terms