I'm glad that this is going on.  Great to get the senior players in a room for a truth session, get it out there deal with it and commit to getting better.  These are the blokes that set the standards, the club and coaches can drive culture and standards but essentially it is the players that do this, they are the drivers if they don't buy in and drive it your club falls apart.

Accept responsibility for the season, it is disappointing, how they respond in 2025 is the real test.

What a complete and utter f wit T Morris looks now.

😂😂😂

5 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

What a complete and utter f wit T Morris looks now.

😂😂😂

I don’t understand why people go down this narrative and it’s a very common response so don’t mean to single you out (sorry). But what part of what was reported has been incorrect? It seems people apply strawman logic to media reports because they don’t like what they hear.

The Jack Viney situation has been the same. Just because Jack has extended and if Trac ends up staying doesn’t make what was reported incorrect.

It highlights how people don’t understand how media and the footy industry work.

Jeez we need a big off season. Take the team to an overseas training facility and surround them with the very best in the business for 2 weeks. Harden and bond them in the fire of adversity. I'll read about it on a comfy chair on my verandah.

Edited August 19, 20241 yr by Roost it far

3 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Jeez we need a big off season. Take the team to an overseas training facility and surround them with the very best in the business for 2 weeks. Harden and bond them in the fire of adversity. I'll read about it on a comfy chair on my verandah.

You don't want to discuss it at the pub?

9 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Jeez we need a big off season. Take the team to an overseas training facility and surround them with the very best in the business for 2 weeks. Harden and bond them in the fire of adversity. I'll read about it on a comfy chair on my verandah.

Vegas?

6 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

You don't want to discuss it at the pub?

That would work.

41 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

What a complete and utter f wit T Morris looks now.

😂😂😂

Why?

25 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Why?

Here's the thing, and it's just my own view and not everyone will agree with this. 

Everyone can see an enormous factor in this whole situation is trauma and mental health, it's obvious and horrible for Trac and his family. But gutter journalists like Tom Morris only care about headlines, attention and clicks, he wouldn't give a [censored] about any negative impacts this has on Trac the person by having him all over every newspaper and TV constantly in a situation where a trade happening is a 1/100000 chance anyway. 

I understand he had to get the info from somewhere and perhaps that came from someone close to Trac, but the source clearly didn't think this through, and Tom Morris in my opinion has shown a complete disregard for player welfare in running this story under these circumstances, but at least it helped him repair his credibility and brand a little bit following his disgusting, sexist comments that should have seem him removed from the industry for good in the first place. 

So i agree, he looks like a complete F witt to me, just not for the reasons the poster was getting at. 

5 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

So i agree, he looks like a complete F witt to me, just not for the reasons the poster was getting at. 

Trac has broken his self imposed social media ban sharing a post and commenting on BBB retirement.

CP5 is going nowhere.

14 minutes ago, Ted Lasso said:

Here's the thing, and it's just my own view and not everyone will agree with this. 

Everyone can see an enormous factor in this whole situation is trauma and mental health, it's obvious and horrible for Trac and his family. But gutter journalists like Tom Morris only care about headlines, attention and clicks, he wouldn't give a [censored] about any negative impacts this has on Trac the person by having him all over every newspaper and TV constantly in a situation where a trade happening is a 1/100000 chance anyway. 

I understand he had to get the info from somewhere and perhaps that came from someone close to Trac, but the source clearly didn't think this through, and Tom Morris in my opinion has shown a complete disregard for player welfare in running this story under these circumstances, but at least it helped him repair his credibility and brand a little bit following his disgusting, sexist comments that should have seem him removed from the industry for good in the first place. 

So i agree, he looks like a complete F witt to me, just not for the reasons the poster was getting at. 

100% agree - at this point Id be less ashamed if my children told me they wanted to make a career on OnlyFans as opposed to being a "Footy Journalist"

1 hour ago, Melb16 said:

It seems people apply strawman logic to media reports because they don’t like what they hear.

Absolutely agree with this.

And sometimes the media reports are flimsy and pathetic - you don't need to make a straw man out of them. But in most cases these feeble stories are immediately addressed, dismissed or just laughed off. That hasn't happened here. Unless this is a case of "he's so wrong that responding would give the rumour unwarranted credit", everything points to the central claim from Morris - that Petracca is so unhappy he wants to leave - being true. 

5 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I'm not particularly interested in having a crack at Morris' previous issues and who he is as a person, but I do think you raise an excellent point in terms of mental health. Where is the AFLPA in all this? I do wonder if they attempt to push back at all in circumstances like this. They seem good at bringing up their issues around remuneration and days off, but I don't recall them ever giving a significant statement when there are mental health implications to the rumour mongering style reporting like this Petracca situation.

It's clear the media won't regulate themselves, the style and quality of reporting has likely never been worse, so where are the AFL and the AFLPA in terms of providing some push back when the circumstances warrant it?

What can they do beyond re-educate the individuals involved? I contrast this with the Clayton Oliver situation where the ultimate respect was paid to his mental health and stability by the AFL media. 

54 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

Vegas?

Seminyak.

On 13/08/2024 at 21:06, dazzledavey36 said:

From a different article..

North Melbourne has made a strong play for Viney, whose father, Todd, works at the Kangaroos as a highly-respected football manager.

The Kangaroos are believed to be preparing a lucrative offer and major leadership and onball roles in a bid to land Viney.

The Demons remain confident of signing Viney to a contract extension and on Tuesday shut down any prospect of trading Petracca.

I'll put here a conversation I had recently with an employee of NMFC.

Told me that he took part in a tour of their facilities with Christian Petracca a few weeks ago. They were doing the hard sell, and from what I understood, Trac was doing due diligence in the event he was to leave MFC

I gathered that these types of tours are not uncommon across all AFL footy clubs

6 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

I'll put here a conversation I had recently with an employee of NMFC.

Told me that he took part in a tour of their facilities with Christian Petracca a few weeks ago. They were doing the hard sell, and from what I understood, Trac was doing due diligence in the event he was to leave MFC

I gathered that these types of tours are not uncommon across all AFL footy clubs

Now I've heard it all.

Trac was going to go to North? 

12 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

Now I've heard it all.

Trac was going to go to North? 

PETRACCAROO

I can exclusively confirm that Christian Petracca did tour the Kangaroos facilities out at Arden street and is open to hopping over to the Roos ...

---- Tom Morris probably

Melbourne Demons, Christian Petracca injuries, communication with Max Gawn, Noosa holiday, Caroline Wilson, Footy Classified

Caroline Wilson says she is "staggered" at Melbourne's communication breakdown with Christian Petracca.

It follows reports that Petracca addressed the playing group on Monday, clarifying his extended break in Noosa, his terrifying season-ending injuries suffered in round 13, as well as growing trade speculation.

There have been suggestions that Petracca had become disgruntled and disillusioned with the club.

And despite Dees skipper Max Gawn moving to shut down speculation that tension still exists between Petracca and his teammates, Wilson still has her concerns.

"I find the communication breakdown at the Melbourne football club extraordinary," Wilson said on Nine's Footy Classified on Monday night.

"What is baffling to me is that Christian Petracca addressed his teammates this morning, for the first time as a group, and talked about the trauma he suffered.

"I'm staggered that players didn't know that Christian Petracca had gone up to Noosa for a month, because he was suffering from post traumatic stress disorder, if that's what it was, or some form of stress and trauma after what had happened to him.

"If he's got all these cultural issues with the club, when he addressed the players ... I wish he'd said that. I'm told that he specifically only spoke about what he went through (with his injuries)."

Wilson also questioned why Gawn has been withholding information surrounding Petracca's health from his teammates.

"How does Max Gawn ... keep his teammates in the loop about how Christian is going? About why he's gone to Noosa?" she said.

"Petracca is their greatest player, their Norm Smith Medallist. Do you find it a bit odd? It is unusual for a footy club to not be communicating to that degree?

"This is a playing group that has won a flag together. How does the playing group not know about this situation?"

And it's not just on Gawn to be keeping the group informed, according to Matthew Lloyd.

"It's on everyone. It's on the head of football, Alan Richardson, it's on Gary Pert, the CEO," Lloyd said.

I’m not going to reveal my sources, so don’t ask, but Christian did a tour of the Yarraville-Seddon Eagles facilities last week. He was very impressed by what he saw, including access to the Westgate, and public transport options on both the Werribee and Williamstown lines.

His reservations are parking around Anderson street, and the lack of blockbuster movies showing at The Sun cinema. He does however rate the cinemas Choc Tops.

19 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Melbourne Demons, Christian Petracca injuries, communication with Max Gawn, Noosa holiday, Caroline Wilson, Footy Classified

Caroline Wilson says she is "staggered" at Melbourne's communication breakdown with Christian Petracca.

It follows reports that Petracca addressed the playing group on Monday, clarifying his extended break in Noosa, his terrifying season-ending injuries suffered in round 13, as well as growing trade speculation.

There have been suggestions that Petracca had become disgruntled and disillusioned with the club.

And despite Dees skipper Max Gawn moving to shut down speculation that tension still exists between Petracca and his teammates, Wilson still has her concerns.

"I find the communication breakdown at the Melbourne football club extraordinary," Wilson said on Nine's Footy Classified on Monday night.

"What is baffling to me is that Christian Petracca addressed his teammates this morning, for the first time as a group, and talked about the trauma he suffered.

"I'm staggered that players didn't know that Christian Petracca had gone up to Noosa for a month, because he was suffering from post traumatic stress disorder, if that's what it was, or some form of stress and trauma after what had happened to him.

"If he's got all these cultural issues with the club, when he addressed the players ... I wish he'd said that. I'm told that he specifically only spoke about what he went through (with his injuries)."

Wilson also questioned why Gawn has been withholding information surrounding Petracca's health from his teammates.

"How does Max Gawn ... keep his teammates in the loop about how Christian is going? About why he's gone to Noosa?" she said.

"Petracca is their greatest player, their Norm Smith Medallist. Do you find it a bit odd? It is unusual for a footy club to not be communicating to that degree?

"This is a playing group that has won a flag together. How does the playing group not know about this situation?"

And it's not just on Gawn to be keeping the group informed, according to Matthew Lloyd.

"It's on everyone. It's on the head of football, Alan Richardson, it's on Gary Pert, the CEO," Lloyd said.

Pretty sure Gawn said the Noosa thing wasn't actually an issue, did Caro just decide to completely ignore this?

4 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

Pretty sure Gawn said the Noosa thing wasn't actually an issue, did Caro just decide to completely ignore this?

Yup, she did not appear to have anything new to report. Just a reporter reporting on a reporter reporting an anonymous source.

23 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Melbourne Demons, Christian Petracca injuries, communication with Max Gawn, Noosa holiday, Caroline Wilson, Footy Classified

Caroline Wilson says she is "staggered" at Melbourne's communication breakdown with Christian Petracca.

It follows reports that Petracca addressed the playing group on Monday, clarifying his extended break in Noosa, his terrifying season-ending injuries suffered in round 13, as well as growing trade speculation.

There have been suggestions that Petracca had become disgruntled and disillusioned with the club.

And despite Dees skipper Max Gawn moving to shut down speculation that tension still exists between Petracca and his teammates, Wilson still has her concerns.

"I find the communication breakdown at the Melbourne football club extraordinary," Wilson said on Nine's Footy Classified on Monday night.

"What is baffling to me is that Christian Petracca addressed his teammates this morning, for the first time as a group, and talked about the trauma he suffered.

"I'm staggered that players didn't know that Christian Petracca had gone up to Noosa for a month, because he was suffering from post traumatic stress disorder, if that's what it was, or some form of stress and trauma after what had happened to him.

"If he's got all these cultural issues with the club, when he addressed the players ... I wish he'd said that. I'm told that he specifically only spoke about what he went through (with his injuries)."

Wilson also questioned why Gawn has been withholding information surrounding Petracca's health from his teammates.

"How does Max Gawn ... keep his teammates in the loop about how Christian is going? About why he's gone to Noosa?" she said.

"Petracca is their greatest player, their Norm Smith Medallist. Do you find it a bit odd? It is unusual for a footy club to not be communicating to that degree?

"This is a playing group that has won a flag together. How does the playing group not know about this situation?"

And it's not just on Gawn to be keeping the group informed, according to Matthew Lloyd.

"It's on everyone. It's on the head of football, Alan Richardson, it's on Gary Pert, the CEO," Lloyd said.

I'm not sure if Caro or anyone else for that matter, understand the complexities around mental health - perhaps Tracc hadn't felt comfortable opening up about the seriousness about his issues and perhaps had asked for sensitivity around this. It's very likely that Max and the FD didn't feel comfortable passing on that information. The impression the players may have got was that he was having fun in Noosa while they were struggling on the field, particularly at Casey. Things can get misinterpreted, despite good communication. 

The lack of nuance in footy journalism is astounding sometimes. 

2 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Jeez we need a big off season. Take the team to an overseas training facility and surround them with the very best in the business for 2 weeks. Harden and bond them in the fire of adversity. I'll read about it on a comfy chair on my verandah.

There’s only one answer

Edited August 20, 20241 yr by Beetle

35 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Melbourne Demons, Christian Petracca injuries, communication with Max Gawn, Noosa holiday, Caroline Wilson, Footy Classified

Caroline Wilson says she is "staggered" at Melbourne's communication breakdown with Christian Petracca.

It follows reports that Petracca addressed the playing group on Monday, clarifying his extended break in Noosa, his terrifying season-ending injuries suffered in round 13, as well as growing trade speculation.

There have been suggestions that Petracca had become disgruntled and disillusioned with the club.

And despite Dees skipper Max Gawn moving to shut down speculation that tension still exists between Petracca and his teammates, Wilson still has her concerns.

"I find the communication breakdown at the Melbourne football club extraordinary," Wilson said on Nine's Footy Classified on Monday night.

"What is baffling to me is that Christian Petracca addressed his teammates this morning, for the first time as a group, and talked about the trauma he suffered.

"I'm staggered that players didn't know that Christian Petracca had gone up to Noosa for a month, because he was suffering from post traumatic stress disorder, if that's what it was, or some form of stress and trauma after what had happened to him.

"If he's got all these cultural issues with the club, when he addressed the players ... I wish he'd said that. I'm told that he specifically only spoke about what he went through (with his injuries)."

Wilson also questioned why Gawn has been withholding information surrounding Petracca's health from his teammates.

"How does Max Gawn ... keep his teammates in the loop about how Christian is going? About why he's gone to Noosa?" she said.

"Petracca is their greatest player, their Norm Smith Medallist. Do you find it a bit odd? It is unusual for a footy club to not be communicating to that degree?

"This is a playing group that has won a flag together. How does the playing group not know about this situation?"

And it's not just on Gawn to be keeping the group informed, according to Matthew Lloyd.

"It's on everyone. It's on the head of football, Alan Richardson, it's on Gary Pert, the CEO," Lloyd said.

FFS