Christian Petracca

[DeeZone 9,848]

38 minutes ago, BoBo said:

Also to @DeeZone, so I’ll take both of your comments at face value as being true. 

Gawn and MFC have only said he is *contracted* to play for the dees. This is a politician’s answer. 

What Tracc wants and what his contract status is, are two seperate things. 

What is the reason it has been 3 days and the claim that Tracc *wants* to leave, hasn’t been directly challenged as being untrue?

I understand where you are coming from BoBo but I am old school, if and when Tracc comes out and says I don’t want to play for MFC and I want to be traded, then I will believe what I am hearing and wish him all the best in his future pursuits. But until that happens I will remain attached to him like a limpet mine.

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1 hour ago, Jaded No More said:

I suspect that in time he will regret the way he’s handled it. 

I think so too.

But the funny thing is if we win a flag next year, all of this will be forgotten.

Equally though, the next time there is adversity, the playing group will wonder if Trac is going to whinge through his management again.

It's toxic.

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

4 minutes ago, Binmans PA said:

I think so too.

But the funny thing is if we win a flag next year, all of this will be forgotten.

Equally though, the next time there is adversity, the playing group will wonder if Trac is going to whinge through his management again.

It's toxic.

Yep you can not walk back what he did. Like it or not, this will stick until he retires or leave. Maybe that’s his strategy. 

Edited August 16 by Gawndy the Great

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17 minutes ago, ANG13 said:

What if he has been telling the club of issues for a while and nothing has happened? 

You make a big issue out of it..........privately.

[Mickey 4,684]

1 hour ago, ElDiablo14 said:

The guys at the Deebrief may have some connections with Petraccas brother, the one that is a player agent.

I wonder if they know something...🧐

In one of their pods earlier this year, they alluded to a rumour a 'big name player' would ask for a trade but wouldn't name him because they didn't want to give it legs.

I thought at the time it might have been someone like Fritta,  but maybe they had the earlier word and just didn't believe it

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I have no inside information but here is my take. Trac was very likely told by doctors he had severely put him self at risk by going back into the ground. At the very least he would have been told he suffered a serious injury. I feel he went back on because he felt we wouldn’t win without him. A fairly realistic assessment. 
However spending time in hospital would have had him think about the clubs negligence in regard to his welfare. It didn’t need a doctor to tell you he was badly hurt. It looked very similiar to the hit Dipper received in the 87 grand final. 

All this would have been reinforced when he was told how strict he needed to comply with doctors orders in his recovery and return to fitness. So in summary he is looking at it thinking I very nearly put my life on line for the club all the while others are taking the [censored].

 

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2 hours ago, Older demon said:

Seriously why cant we take the club at face value. Trac has been traumatised is a bit out of sorts and has a lot of work to regain his physical status back as well as his emotional stability.

But for a bit of fun if you wanted a swap maybe Mr King at St Kilda. Prior to his shoulder op he looked disinterested and dispirited playing in the saints forward line. Haven't heard a peep out of St Kilda. Papley wanted out of Sydney a few years ago and carlton could get him. Look at the situation now. Keep calm and let it sort itself out

Where’s the fun in that.

i do find it interesting that he’s said nothing to us, the supporters, to alleviate the obvious concerns. The longer that silence lasts the closer he is to being traded……at least that’s becoming my take on the matter. His silence has meaning no??

Edited August 16 by Roost it far

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28 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Where’s the fun in that.

i do find it interesting that he’s said nothing to us, the supporters, to alleviate the obvious concerns. The longer that silence lasts the closer he is to being traded……at least that’s becoming my take on the matter. His silence has meaning no??

 it could also be a bluff to ensure the maximum effect of the review. If he backs of now, they may make less impactful decisions, but if he holds this over them, it’s possible that they are forced to act on certain things.

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2 hours ago, BoBo said:

Haven’t heard OX’s claims about players getting ‘up to no good’ during preseason being countered by anyone so that’s obviously true too. 
 

 

2 hours ago, BoBo said:

Haven’t heard OX’s claims about players getting ‘up to no good’ during preseason being countered by anyone so that’s obviously true too. 

I wills say it twice then , why would you even bother replying to his claims.

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2 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

 it could also be a bluff to ensure the maximum effect of the review. If he backs of now, they may make less impactful decisions, but if he holds this over them, it’s possible that they are forced to act on certain things.

I’d be shocked if the club wasn’t aware of the issues that need addressing. I just don’t see how this helps considering how much conjecture about the club has been swirling around for the last 12 months. Ideally he’d want to be captain and drive the standards from there. I don’t see how he can be now which is another reason why I’m starting to think he may just be trying to force a trade.

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2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I don’t think Tracc wants to leave at all, he has given the Club a Rocket to get its act together 

This has all been festering (multiple issues) for a long time. 
The Decks have got to be cleared, we need a change of some philosophies within The Football Department 

I maybe in the minority, but i am quietly happy it has come out. I hope the Review is thorough and fair. We have got to get better 

Not sure what the issues are with trac if any but hypothetically if he’s upset with what’s happening on or off the field and rightly so as a leader needs to be part of the solution as all clubs go through this, as the same club with the same people took him to the ultimate success of a flag  and rewarded him with the a huge contract, in terms of his injury it took 2 scans in an hospital to diagnose his injuries so not sure what I’m missing 

Edited August 16 by Demonsone

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18 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

 

I wills say it twice then , why would you even bother replying to his claims.

Can you clarify what you’re saying please? 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

15 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

I’d be shocked if the club wasn’t aware of the issues that need addressing. I just don’t see how this helps considering how much conjecture about the club has been swirling around for the last 12 months. Ideally he’d want to be captain and drive the standards from there. I don’t see how he can be now which is another reason why I’m starting to think he may just be trying to force a trade.

You are probably right. It’s Gold Coast or Freo. Don’t see how any other club can get it done.He can forget the Pies, the club would walk him to the draft.

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I know what happened to trac was terrible & he suffered but maybe he would like to have a conversation with Jason winderlich & the massive uphill battle he faces. 

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1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Once he has made the statement, he doesn’t need to say anything else 

As long as the Club make the right changes in the offseason. 
 

The Media will have different stories next week 

Ok, so he hasn’t made a statement, why is that? Considering there’s a rumour out there that he wants to leave the club?

It’s the kind of claim that DOES DAMAGE the longer you don’t address it.

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1 hour ago, DeeZone said:

I understand where you are coming from BoBo but I am old school, if and when Tracc comes out and says I don’t want to play for MFC and I want to be traded, then I will believe what I am hearing and wish him all the best in his future pursuits. But until that happens I will remain attached to him like a limpet mine.

Ok that’s fair enough. I would prefer him or the club to state that it isn’t true within 3 days, if they don’t, I can only infer that it is true until I hear different.

We just disagree and that’s fine

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Those saying Collingwood have no leverage, or that Trac is contracted haven't been paying attention for some time now. 

It. Does. Not. Matter. 

If he says that's where he wants to go, they will move heaven and earth to get him, including catapulting their salary cap if need be, and the media will pressure us to accept their best offer by saying that we shouldn't be holding a club champion against their will. 

ANB signed for 3 years last year. Houston is contracted. Contracts are not a barrier to any player leaving. 

As for "what has happened to this club since 2021?" - I and many others on here tried telling you. I wrote a widely smashed thread called 'its the culture' at the end of 22. My observations were pretty surface-level in hindsight but I always felt they were early symptoms of something changing and bubbling. We've shown flashes on and off of something returning, but it's never felt or looked the same since mid-22. 

At the start of this year I specifically said we were a petracca injury away from bottom 6. So many thought it was a ridiculous idea, failing to see that Laurie, Woey and Tholstrup is not the midfield depth of a top 4 or 8 side. The types of characters we've brought in through trade since 21, the lack of integrity at selection, the falling standards on and off field, the talent we've been unable to hold onto, the lack of our brilliant '21 team defense, the loss of all functional depth, the re-emergence of selfish patterns of play, ageing of our best players and most tellingly, the absolute arrogance of management declaring nothing was wrong in the face of irrefutable evidence. It's all pointed in a certain direction for a reasonable period of time.

I swear I don't know how so many can devote so much to something and fail to see the patterns emerging. You can all see within 5 minutes of play starting how the team has rocked up. Hell, half of us know the body language of the warm up we follow this team so closely. So why are you so surprised? 

Edited August 16 by fr_ap

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[Fat Tony 5,231]

11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Is there a bigger lightweight than Sam McClure?

[BoBo 2,941]

21 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

The biggest revelation coming out of this is Martin Pike head butted the CEO, haha

Edit: sorry I should clarify, Martin Pikes head came a bit too close to the CEO’s nose says Leigh Matthews, who is part of the Lügenpresse.

Edited August 16 by BoBo

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15 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Absolutely nothing in that at all. Once they include ANB in the discussion you know it is rubbish, because his situation is not one of "culture" or dissatisfaction at all. 

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9 minutes ago, Fat Tony said:

Is there a bigger lightweight than Sam McClure?

No.

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3 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

This 100%

Trac is within his rights to be upset or unhappy with the direction of the club or the handling of his injury. But to play it out so publicly at the expense of the club that made him the highly paid star that he is, is simply immature and selfish.

Either he thinks that if he does enough damage we will relent and trade him, or he’s simply more worried about his own brand than the club’s. 
 

I suspect that in time he will regret the way he’s handled it. 

I’m so glad that posters are now realising how poorly Trac has handled this whole situation. Putting his brand above the club will severely damage any hope he has of being captain. He has a lot of growing up to do. 

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,736]

lol let’s look at Sam Mclure’s history this past 12 months:

- The eagles are not selecting Harley Reid he’s told them he doesn’t want to go. Eagles selected Reid.

- Said ‘if Carlton aren’t the flag favourites then you haven’t been watching properly’. The next week when asked who he thinks will play in the GF he said Port and Collingwood.

He’s more untrustworthy than any other journo out there.

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3 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

lol let’s look at Sam Mclure’s history this past 12 months:

- The eagles are not selecting Harley Reid he’s told them he doesn’t want to go. Eagles selected Reid.

- Said ‘if Carlton aren’t the flag favourites then you haven’t been watching properly’. The next week when asked who he thinks will play in the GF he said Port and Collingwood.

He’s more untrustworthy than any other journo out there.

Morris seems to get excellent Dees mail

Mcclure on the other hand seems to make stuff up as he goes