On 04/04/2025 at 21:20, Superunknown said:

I hope the board is drawing a list up, just in case.

Why would you want that? How could you trust this board to get anything right? They are pretty much the same people who approved a Goodwin extension BEFORE another straight sets finals exit. The club is lead by morons. 3 years after a flag and we already need the AFL to step in again. 😂 If you don't laugh you'll cry.

Someone escaping much of the deserved blame is Kate Roffey.

What did she actually do as President, except for overseeing a very complacent board?

What are you people talking about? He's trying to implement a new plan with faster ball movement, but the players aren't delivering. Kicks straight to the opposition, no-one backing up to take a quick handball, handballs to the feet of team mates, and kicking poorly at goal don't win games. Our skills aren't that good and we don't have enough players who can take a contested mark. Is that the coach, the recruiting department or the development coaches?

  On 04/04/2025 at 23:19, Demon Disciple said:

Someone escaping much of the deserved blame is Kate Roffey.

What did she actually do as President, except for overseeing a very complacent board?

Can we have Gus Brayshaw as our next president/CEO?

🥲 Miss the guy, hope he is doing well.

  On 04/04/2025 at 23:19, Demon Disciple said:

Someone escaping much of the deserved blame is Kate Roffey.

What did she actually do as President, except for overseeing a very complacent board?

Who pulled the trigger to extended Goodwin contract the second time in 23 after the 1st one in 22, was it Pert, Roffey? Why the 2nd extension???

It’s over, pay him out and we move on.

At this point keeping him on does more harm than good.

Carlton also in the hunt for a new coach.

I’d personally prefer someone untried that’s been part of a successful system with some new ideas.

  On 04/04/2025 at 23:26, Demonsone said:

Who pulled the trigger to extended Goodwin contract the second time in 23 after the 1st one in 22, was it Pert, Roffey? Why the 2nd extension???

If we didn't extend his contract in 2023. Was last year his last year?

  On 04/04/2025 at 23:35, Bombay Airconditioning said:

It’s over, pay him out and we move on.

At this point keeping him on does more harm than good.

Carlton also in the hunt for a new coach.

I’d personally prefer someone untried that’s been part of a successful system with some new ideas.

Got to get our coach before Carlton.

  On 04/04/2025 at 23:23, Go Lordie said:

What are you people talking about? He's trying to implement a new plan with faster ball movement, but the players aren't delivering. Kicks straight to the opposition, no-one backing up to take a quick handball, handballs to the feet of team mates, and kicking poorly at goal don't win games. Our skills aren't that good and we don't have enough players who can take a contested mark. Is that the coach, the recruiting department or the development coaches?

He is a system coach. His system isn't working so he is useless as a coach.

He should be developing his own skills as a coach, being agile enough to coach each game on its merits (especially with an experienced leadership group) but he has never been that kind of coach.

It's been a great ride but his time is up.

  On 04/04/2025 at 23:41, Dr. Gonzo said:

He is a system coach. His system isn't working so he is useless as a coach.

He should be developing his own skills as a coach, being agile enough to coach each game on its merits (especially with an experienced leadership group) but he has never been that kind of coach.

It's been a great ride but his time is up.

Nailed it

  On 04/04/2025 at 22:44, whatwhat say what said:

i very much doubt any coach is going to be coming into our club going 'oh, just get rid of two of the best five players, don't worry, i love a long slow rebuild'

no chance - any coach who comes in will want to RETAIN our best players, not jettison them

Correct 👍

  On 04/04/2025 at 23:37, ElDiablo14 said:

If we didn't extend his contract in 2023. Was last year his last year?

I believe it was 2024….need a clean out of coaches & football manger, choosing the right CEO is needed asap … Longmire has a great record in culture setting etc but may be cooked with 4 GF loses in particular the last 2.

https://www.3aw.com.au/is-it-time-matthew-lloyd-damning-comments-on-simon-goodwin-after-another-dees-loss/

I'll be so annoyed if we miss out on Longmire and Carlton get him.

It's time to rip the band-aid off.

  On 04/04/2025 at 22:44, whatwhat say what said:

i very much doubt any coach is going to be coming into our club going 'oh, just get rid of two of the best five players, don't worry, i love a long slow rebuild'

no chance - any coach who comes in will want to RETAIN our best players, not jettison them

Absolutely and i think there will be a lot of coaches thinking that there is a good chance they can make us a contender again without moving things around too much.

  On 04/04/2025 at 23:41, Dr. Gonzo said:

He is a system coach. His system isn't working so he is useless as a coach.

He should be developing his own skills as a coach, being agile enough to coach each game on its merits (especially with an experienced leadership group) but he has never been that kind of coach.

It's been a great ride but his time is up.

100% Correct.

When you listen to great coaches across all sports, they talk about "situational" coaching based on how a game was going. During the week, Bill Belichick would show the players situations that occured across all games, and drum into the players what they needed to do in those situations. Goodwin is all about "sticking to the gameplan", and the results will come.

Our loss to GWS was the hardest for me to swallow, because it was all due to coaching ineptness in the final few minutes. Since then, the confidence of the players has dropped.

I wish the press would’ve asked him last night why every single last quarter of ours this year has been absolutely diabolical. Is it fitness? Confidence? Do we drop our heads to easily when the opposition halts our short lived momentum?

Instead all I see was a bunch of compliments and back slapping from both the coach and journos about our improved spirit last night. As if we’ve achieved the bare minimum standard of AFL effort.

Edited April 5Apr 5 by Bring-Back-Powell

A really simple fix - teach the players to pass the ball to where the player will be, not where they are. Force the forwards to LEAD UP at the kicker.

We continue to bomb the ball onto peoples heads, which then encourages JVR to play back shoulder and try to get over the back. When Koz put the ball in front of Turner into space, it made him lead up at the ball and got the mark and goal.

We continue to handball behind or at the shoelaces of players and then have to stop to collect it, meaning we are under pressure and get tied up, rather than being able to move through and break out of the stoppage.

This also means that we do not know where people are going to be and simply see jumper kick to jumper.

Imagine if we fixed just this one thing!!!

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:42, demoncat said:

Steve Smith can’t start as President soon enough…

Steve heads off to Europe as planned in may. On his return the plan was for hime to wait until seasons end to take the reigns (personal communication). Do not under estimate Brad green! He has a ruthless streak and a great football brain. He will make hard decisions and remove non performers if necessary. In the past the coach has given an monthly update to the board on the team status I imagine the next one will be challenging and a please explain in order.

All of this is way above the supporters need to know but will become evident.

In my opinion the team doesn't appear fit enough, lacks cohesion but in the 1st 3 games we had 4 first year players. I doubt any top team with finals aspiration would have 4 complete AFL newbies in the team. Viney is struggling with AFL 2025 style and his 45 meter kicks long and down the line don't work. ANB hasn't been replaced and his role taken over. If Goody is sacked who steps in from the group. The coaching panel have been delivering the same message as a collective since last October do we beieve someone from within will change much?

Lets see where we are at round 10 and hope the team at least tries to play some entertaining watchable footy.

  On 04/04/2025 at 23:35, Bombay Airconditioning said:

It’s over, pay him out and we move on.

At this point keeping him on does more harm than good.

Carlton also in the hunt for a new coach.

I’d personally prefer someone untried that’s been part of a successful system with some new ideas.

Got to get our coach before Carlton.

  On 05/04/2025 at 00:26, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I wish the press would’ve asked him last night why every single last quarter of ours this year has been absolutely diabolical. Is it fitness? Confidence? Do we drop our heads to easily when the opposition halts our short lived momentum?

Instead all I see was a bunch of compliments and back slapping from both the coach and journos about our improved spirit last night. As if we’ve achieved the bare minimum standard of AFL effort.

Probably us improving is not in the best interest for the press. They want more misery to write about it.

  On 05/04/2025 at 00:34, titan_uranus said:

Some have been saying this for years.

As long as everyone LOVES each other who really cares about the results… 😒

  On 04/04/2025 at 23:23, Go Lordie said:

What are you people talking about? He's trying to implement a new plan with faster ball movement, but the players aren't delivering. Kicks straight to the opposition, no-one backing up to take a quick handball, handballs to the feet of team mates, and kicking poorly at goal don't win games. Our skills aren't that good and we don't have enough players who can take a contested mark. Is that the coach, the recruiting department or the development coaches?

I’m sympathetic to this and I don’t place the blame solely at Goodwins feet for our performances this year. The reasons we find ourselves in the current state is a lot of different problems all adding up and coming to fruition.

He has made bad errors though. Reverting back to the old style mid way through last year to mitigate losses was him losing his nerve and all it did was push the problems we had then, to now. So we lost half a year of in game development for the current style of play. In essence, he played to ameliorate criticism, which any way you cut it, is a failure of leadership and lack of foresight.

Forward connection issues are HIS problem. Had years to fix it and hasn’t or is unable too. There is no escaping this. You can say we don’t have the players down there required (which is probably true) and we don’t have the skills to execute properly, but long bombs into the forward line, for years, over and over again? If players were not instructed to do this then the only other explanation is he just allowed players to get away with murder.

To me, this is the one where Goodwin lost me, probably starting sometime mid 2023 to be honest. Complete dominance and forward F50 entries for [censored] all scores. We’ve all known about this problem with us, it’s been spoken about to death, the same conversation over and over again and we are STILL DOING IT.

I cannot get over this.

  On 05/04/2025 at 00:34, titan_uranus said:

Anybody else just seeing a white square when people are posting links/screenshots?