2024 Phantom Drafts

[layzie 33,287]

2 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

Langford.  He’s not perfect.  He’s a contested ballwinner inside mid with good distribution by hand and foot.  Btw Cripps kicking is not perfect.  Trac’s kicking is not perfect.  Clarry kicking is definitely not perfect.  Bont kicking is not perfect.  I’ve seen Langford twice live for Stingrays and kicking is good for distance (covers over 50 easily) and he can hit a target. 

I agree with all of those.

Doesn't have to be perfect, just a good enough kick.

[manny100 1,411]

ROOKIEME Sept'24 power rankings out 

[spirit of norm smith 15,470]

https://central.rookieme.com/afl/power-rankings/afl-draft-power-rankings-september-2024/

thanks @manny100

Overall ratings are excellent however quite a few are “interesting”…

Murphy Reid 3, Bo Allan 5, Kako at 13.  Wow. That’s well above my thoughts.  Reid especially.  I saw him live only twice but wasn’t super impressed.  Yes had a good Vic metro performance and deserves 9-10 rating.  I’m happy if Eagles grab him 🤣🤣
 

Finn O’Sullivan drops to 7 (shades on the Joel Selwood year where he dropped after injuries impacted his last underage year … the rest is history). Really. He is class and so versatile.  Would play round 1 2025 with solid injury free pre season   

Sid Draper drops to 9. Staggering.  He has class and pace and smarts and goalkicking.  Equal to Levi Ashcroft in my view.  If Crows pass on him, then Dees have to strongly consider. 

Xavier Lindsay at 15. Winner of Morrish Medal. Best on ground in Vic country v metro.  Elite skills. Left footer who plays in or out midfield.  Absolutely a steal. 
 

No “Ben Camporeale”.  He’s rating should be 13-15. Is he being forgotten? SA MVP. Gun midfielder.  wtf.  Blues will be laughing.  

Finally , again Sam Marshall at 22.  Lions will be doing high fives.  Equal BOG in Coates league GF (I actually thought he was BOG ahead of Ashcroft). WTF.  He’s the 12-15 rating. 
 

 

[Lord Travis 10,517]

Really like Cooper Hynes. If we can get another late first rounder like 18 from Brisbane, then drafting Draper/Lalor and Hynes would be such a good midfield combo to build our future around. Speed, skill, contest.

[drdrake 3,133]

On 25/09/2024 at 21:12, layzie said:

I agree with all of those.

Doesn't have to be perfect, just a good enough kick.

No, we need elite kick our midfield is full of average or below average kicks.

Brisbane tore Sydney apart with elite kicking through the corridor.  Clubs have worked out to beat the zones you need to hit that 20 to 35m kick, we just don't have enough players on our list that can hit that kick.

[layzie 33,287]

43 minutes ago, drdrake said:

No, we need elite kick our midfield is full of average or below average kicks.

Brisbane tore Sydney apart with elite kicking through the corridor.  Clubs have worked out to beat the zones you need to hit that 20 to 35m kick, we just don't have enough players on our list that can hit that kick.

Preaching to the choir mate, I've only ever talked about needing better foot skill in the middle and agree. 

What I mean by good enough kick is someone that can hit a target 7 or 8 times out of 10. If the kids we choose have an elite kick that's a bonus but there's no point drafting someone with a suspect tank who will 9 possessions a game just because they have an elite kick. We've already got Spargo. 

[spirit of norm smith 15,470]

@drdrake
Highly skilled , high disposal efficiency kicks.  

Levi Ashcroft  - draft range 1-2 

Sid Draper 3-7

Xavier Lindsay 8-15

Jesse Dattoli 21-27

Harry Oliver 21-27

Blake Leidler 55-rookie 

Mitch Kirkwood-Scott 55-rookie

Will Hayes 55-rookie

Edited Thursday at 03:10 by spirit of norm smith
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[DubDee 24,693]

Ahhhhhh

The warm, comforting bosom of the Draft thread

[seventyfour 1,037]

We absolutely need to find another top 15 pick in this draft

[Davos 803]

On 01/10/2024 at 11:09, drdrake said:

No, we need elite kick our midfield is full of average or below average kicks.

Brisbane tore Sydney apart with elite kicking through the corridor.  Clubs have worked out to beat the zones you need to hit that 20 to 35m kick, we just don't have enough players on our list that can hit that kick.

Brisbane has one midfielder who you'd classify as an elite kick (McCluggage), and even then he is probably still more of a wingman than an out and out mid. The Brisbane mids are all stoppage guns, and that's where they killed Sydney on Saturday.

Having said that, we do need better users in the back half. They're the guys pulling the trigger on the 20-35m corridor kicks, and outside of McVee we are devoid of talent in that area. Bowey hasn't developed, Howes has yet to prove himself, Salem is practically a corpse at this point and Rivers is an overrated user who is now probably a full time midfielder anyway. 

I'd say the club has identified this, hence the pursuit of Houston. Not sure if anyone fits the bill in this year's draft - seems to be a lot of mids, small forwards or key position players.

[Supreme_Demon 3,442]

Elite kicking skills should be a non-negotiable for any players we draft to the Demons.

Centre clearance ability is also crucial.

 

[drdrake 3,133]

1 hour ago, Davos said:

Brisbane has one midfielder who you'd classify as an elite kick (McCluggage), and even then he is probably still more of a wingman than an out and out mid. The Brisbane mids are all stoppage guns, and that's where they killed Sydney on Saturday.

Having said that, we do need better users in the back half. They're the guys pulling the trigger on the 20-35m corridor kicks, and outside of McVee we are devoid of talent in that area. Bowey hasn't developed, Howes has yet to prove himself, Salem is practically a corpse at this point and Rivers is an overrated user who is now probably a full time midfielder anyway. 

I'd say the club has identified this, hence the pursuit of Houston. Not sure if anyone fits the bill in this year's draft - seems to be a lot of mids, small forwards or key position players.

Bailey, Ashcroft, Neale, Zorko, Rayner, Lyons, Ah Chee, McCluggage, Fletcher if any of these players joined MFC they would be amongst our top 5 ball users.

[Davos 803]

39 minutes ago, drdrake said:

Bailey, Ashcroft, Neale, Zorko, Rayner, Lyons, Ah Chee, McCluggage, Fletcher if any of these players joined MFC they would be amongst our top 5 ball users.

Bailey is a forward who can run through the middle a la Kozzy. Ashcroft and Neale are fine kicks, not elite. Rayner is a Petracca level user, capable of the sublime but rarely pulls it off. Lyons sucks. Ah Chee ain't a mid. Neither is Zorko. McCluggage and Fletcher are wingers. 

Point is if it's pure mids that we're after (it should be), being an elite user shouldn't be the make or break attribute that determines who we draft at 5.