2024 Phantom Drafts

[adonski 12,907]

Probably irrelevant anyway, reckon Tigers get pick 2 one way or another

[Young Blood 2,639]

15 minutes ago, Mickey said:

If this is the case, it simply has to be Smith or Langford. Neither will last til 9

Please be Jagga. Such a special player. We need a point of difference mid with pace and agility to work alongside our big bodied mids (Trac, Rivers, Clarry).

If we want faster more fluid ball movement then Jagga is the pick. His first option is always to find the open player on the move with space in front of him. I can see him having a positive impact in this regard from day one.

For those worried about his size. He will of course need to build his body, but have a look at the youtube videos of his effectiveness at VFL level against mature bodies for the Tiges. His agility and quick clean hands means he can get effective disposal away in tight. He's got such quick feet and strong hips where he can swivel out of pressure (much like Daicos). These attributes mean he will be able to play AFL straight away.

I'm all in on Jagga Smith if the cards fall the way they're predicting currently.

 

Edited October 29, 2024 by Young Blood

[DeeSpencer 26,273]

32 minutes ago, Older demon said:

The latest from the Age is Richmond doesn't want to trade their pick-six and is less likely to do a pick swap with North. Most experts believe the Tigers will take Lalor at one, and the North will take Tauru. Carlton traded up to get FOS, and I cannot see Adelaide letting Draper go. Come on down, pick and go for the best Langford, Smith or Smillie.

In Taylor we trust.

 

Only new intel there was Smillie to Richmond at 6.

Nothing definitive on North. Still exploring other options to get a tall and possibly stay at 2 for a mid.

And the Draper to Adelaide connection is far from proven.

 

[DeeSpencer 26,273]

13 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

If we want faster more fluid ball movement then Jagga is the pick. His first option is always to find the open player on the move with space in front of him. I can see him having a positive impact in this regard from day one.

Sideways and backwards 

[fr_ap 2,542]

15 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

Please be Jagga. Such a special player. We need a point of difference mid with pace and agility to work alongside our big bodied mids (Trac, Rivers, Clarry).

If we want faster more fluid ball movement then Jagga is the pick. His first option is always to find the open player on the move with space in front of him. I can see him having a positive impact in this regard from day one.

For those worried about his size. He will of course need to build his body, but have a look at the youtube videos of his effectiveness at VFL level against mature bodies for the Tiges. His agility and quick clean hands means he can get effective disposal away in tight. He's got such quick feet and strong hips where he can swivel out of pressure (much like Daicos). These attributes mean he will be able to play AFL straight away.

I'm all in on Jagga Smith if the cards fall the way they're predicting currently.

 

Agree - if we can't get Lalor, Smith is probably both the best performed player of the rest and the one most suited to our needs. 

[Young Blood 2,639]

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Sideways and backwards 

Depends which way he's facing 😜

[Mickey 4,756]

27 minutes ago, adonski said:

Langford sure could. Saints may elect to grab Armstrong and Smillie.

 

I think Richmond would take Langford at 6.

[Neil Crompton 5,747]

I am so confused. This is sounding more and more like “who’s on first?”

Edited October 29, 2024 by Neil Crompton

[Edm 104]

If we do want Armstrong I hope we hold our nerve and wait till pick 9 

Richmond will be hoping for some combination of lalor Langford smith and o’Sullivan with pick 1 and 6 

saints have massive holes in midfield and flankers ( young)

so a smilie and Lindsay/hotton/travaglia or Reid combination would be a lot better for them, if anything they need a key back ( trainor) after battle left 

Edited October 29, 2024 by Edm

[rpfc 28,906]

15 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

I am so confused. This is sounding more and more like “who’s on first?”

You ought to know who is on first base, you’re the manager of the team

[DeeSpencer 26,273]

41 minutes ago, Edm said:

If we do want Armstrong I hope we hold our nerve and wait till pick 9 

Richmond will be hoping for some combination of lalor Langford smith and o’Sullivan with pick 1 and 6 

saints have massive holes in midfield and flankers ( young)

so a smilie and Lindsay/hotton/travaglia or Reid combination would be a lot better for them, if anything they need a key back ( trainor) after battle left 

The danger is teams trading back up especially with the Saints double picks.

Not too many teams that could do it but Sydney might have a crack with 19 and 22 and whatever else they can offer. And Richmond would surely think hard about 10 and 24.

The ability for teams to trade up makes it very hard to get tricky on who you're picking.

[Axis of Bob 11,898]

50 minutes ago, Edm said:

If we do want Armstrong I hope we hold our nerve and wait till pick 9 

St Kilda would likely take him, as they need a classier, more mobile key forward to pair with King long term. If we want him it’ll likely be at 5 or not at all.

[58er 6,811]

On 26/10/2024 at 22:29, Hawk the Demon said:

I didn't get bored. I thought Smith was great!

Stick to politics Hawk. Footy not your forte. Off field will be too tough also as Green and Smith save us from the PL rabble. Stop trying to ruin the Club. You’re destabilising the team and football department. Let the Reviews take their course. Your crowd cannot satisfy our members so please think of the Club  first and not yourselves. 

[2021 301]

Not sure how much is in this but anyway..

[Roger Mellie 4,173]

11 hours ago, bing181 said:

A lot of what we do at 5 will depend on what the Saint do with their later picks. Hope we have good intel!

I think Twomey will get solid info on their picks. I don't recall them pulling to many surprises that the media weren't on to. I do think Silvani's record is not great. Some great picks at the high end but certainly more than his share of howlers:

L Sumner, S Petrevski-Seton, P Dow (x2), L O'Brien, L Stocker, Z Fisher to name a few.

[58er 6,811]

10 hours ago, Axis of Bob said:

St Kilda would likely take him, as they need a classier, more mobile key forward to pair with King long term. If we want him it’ll likely be at 5 or not at all.

Agreed and Tauru might go to North also at 2. 

[picket fence 17,971]

14 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

@Axis of Bob

“What would the reaction be here if we picked a key forward and a flanker?”

Surprise. Shock. Dismay.  All of these.  

 

Need to look at two aces, being a combination of

an inside contested ball winning mid

and

an outside running mid/half back.  

Correct!!

[BangBnagBang 756]

15 hours ago, manny100 said:

A point made by a keen draft follower.

With all the KPF's finishing up, Hawkins, Daniher, Dixon, BB, Casboult we can expect clubs from here to be overpaying in the draft and trading for KPF's.

The Tigers Lynch is looking a bit beaten up as well.

Might see overs for KPF's in this draft for Armstrong, Shanahan and Whitlock in this draft.

 

I wouldn't call Knightmare a keen draft follower. He hasn't watched a Junior game for 2 years. Spends his time now watching Crypto😁

[spirit of norm smith 16,615]

13 hours ago, adonski said:

Langford sure could. Saints may elect to grab Armstrong and Smillie.

 

I’m not sure Langford would last to “9”.  Nice if it happened but I think unlikely.  
If it goes 1 Lalor 2 Ashcroft 3 Tauru 4 O’Sullivan 5 Draper & then 6 Dees pick Smith, then Tigers would probably pick Langford (if not, Saints would again likely get him). Unlikely Langford lasts until “9”. 

[DubDee 26,304]

12 hours ago, 2021 said:

Not sure how much is in this but anyway..

These blokes reckon we should take Smilie at 5 (then Langford/Allen)

At 9 Lindsay or Shanahan

[old55 23,833]

1 hour ago, BangBnagBang said:

I wouldn't call Knightmare a keen draft follower. He hasn't watched a Junior game for 2 years. Spends his time now watching Crypto😁

Might have improved his draft analysis from a low base.

[Nascent 9,320]

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Jagga Smith

He’s right in Richmond’s Pick 1 frame — and could still be on the board by the time the Tigers have their second pick — but all of North Melbourne, Carlton, Adelaide and Melbourne will strongly consider him too.

Sam Lalor 

Should the Tigers overlook him, Carlton, Adelaide and Melbourne, surely at the latest, would all consider him strongly.

Harvey Langford

Langford looms as a top-10 pick on draft night. There’s a slight chance the Tigers take him at Pick 1, but if he’s still there at Pick 6 they would strongly consider him. Rival clubs recently strongly linked him to Melbourne (Picks 5 and 9), too.

Murphy Reid

Reid is likely to come into the draft mix from Richmond’s Pick 6 onwards, with St Kilda and Melbourne to consider him too. Some rival clubs, though, wouldn’t be surprised if he slipped into the teens.

Josh Smillie

Smillie still seems well placed to be taken at the top-end of this year’s draft, with Melbourne (Pick 5) the earliest link at this stage. It’s hard to see him sliding past St Kilda and Richmond’s top-10 picks.

Harry Armstrong

There’s an outside chance Melbourne (Pick 5) takes him with its first selection, although the sense is the Dees will more likely target a midfielder at that pick. It’s most likely Armstrong, at this stage, goes to Richmond (Pick 6), St Kilda (Picks 7 and 8) or Melbourne (Pick 9).

Xavier Lindsay

Lindsay is in the top-10 mix, with Melbourne (Pick 5) perhaps the club with the earliest pick that could take him. Yet there’s a world in which Lindsay slips to teams like the Dockers and Power in the teens, such is the nature of this year’s even draft class.

Jobe Shanahan

There’s a slight chance he sneaks in to the top 10 — should one of the Saints, Demons or Tigers want a key forward at that stage of the draft — otherwise he should be in that mid first-round mix featuring the Power, Dockers and Giants.

Jack Whitlock

Could be an outside chance to be taken by one of the Saints, Demons or Tigers in the top 10, but looms more likely as a later selection on night one. Could Sydney pounce?

 

Edited October 30, 2024 by Nascent

[2021 301]

So I just watched "Gettable" (Cal T.), so you can take the info to the bank.

 

Dees:

Considering Tauru in top 10

Armstrong has been linked to our 2 picks

 

6 certainties in top 10:

Lalor

Ashcroft

FOS

Langford

Draper

Smith

 

Very, very likely:

Smillie

Tauru

 

Very Possible

Lombard

Kako

Reid

Allan

Travaglia

 

Is Armstrong more likely for 5 or 9?

At 5: it would be midfield options, who can get through:

Lalor

FOS

Smith

Langford

Draper

 

At 9:

He (Armstrong) may well be gone already

Allan

Travaglia (who every club is liking from pick 8 onwards)

[Young Blood 2,639]

16 minutes ago, 2021 said:

So I just watched "Gettable" (Cal T.), so you can take the info to the bank.

 

Dees:

Considering Tauru in top 10

Armstrong has been linked to our 2 picks

 

6 certainties in top 10:

Lalor

Ashcroft

FOS

Langford

Draper

Smith

 

Very, very likely:

Smillie

Tauru

 

Very Possible

Lombard

Kako

Reid

Allan

Travaglia

 

Is Armstrong more likely for 5 or 9?

At 5: it would be midfield options, who can get through:

Lalor

FOS

Smith

Langford

Draper

 

At 9:

He (Armstrong) may well be gone already

Allan

Travaglia (who every club is liking from pick 8 onwards)

Damn no new info from Cal. Just what we already know...

[Gawndog98 364]

32 minutes ago, Young Blood said:

Damn no new info from Cal. Just what we already know...

I think can probably take away that from the group of 6 certainties combined with links saying we are likely to use pick 5 on a mid we are going to take the player that is left out of that group with pick 5.

Realistically it looks like it’s between Langford and Jagga for pick 5 which will be dependant on which one Carlton take at 3, or if Norf take Tauru at 2 it pushes them all down 1 so would have the choice between the 2 of them.

Edited October 30, 2024 by Gawndog98