Oliver Trade Rumours

[Macca 16,768]

17 minutes ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

This is my point about the media BS. 

Just don't take the media seriously then.  Ignore them if it's going to bother you

You'll never beat them

But there are some truths and lies and embellishment coming from the media

How do you sort that out?  A nose for BS?  That can help but it's tricky

Take the news that Clarrie might take a pay cut ... my immediate thought was that if he definitely wants out, then that could be true

But who wants to give up hundreds of 1000's per season?

Then there's Joe Daniher who has just turned his back on $1Million

So you never know

 

 

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1 minute ago, Garbo said:

But you also don’t trade him out for nothing but a hand shake either, his value is rock bottom right now, even if we go through this again next year we could still get the same deal then and most likely much better if he is actually committed to getting his body right 

Once again, I don’t overly disagree with this. Of course there’s a balance, but it also has to consider what a willing club would pay towards his contract (either in full, or as a percentage), as well as just how desperate are the MFC to get Oliver out. 
 

It’s unfortunately not a clear cut scenario, with a multitude of issues and concerns at play. 

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2 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

On Insta, he's playing golf Echuca and training with Marty Hore in Gunbower.
Hell of a commute to have cleaned out his locker!

Maybe he got Matty Lloyd on Airtasker to do it for him 😁

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30 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Apparently, he's 'cleaned out his locker'

Strong men, with tears in their eyes.....

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2 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

On Insta, he's playing golf Echuca and training with Marty Hore in Gunbower.
Hell of a commute to have cleaned out his locker!

I think a lot of people have stopped at the headline and not listened to the full discussion. To be fair, that's a bad habit in the media in terms of sensationalising headlines to the point of dishonesty.

Listening to the full context of the segment, at least to me, it comes across as a more figurative sentence rather than a literal description. It's quite an off hand comment in the discussion. In my view, it's speaking more to Oliver mentally checking out from the Demons, as opposed to literally cleaning his locker out.

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1 minute ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I think a lot of people have stopped at the headline and not listened to the full discussion. To be fair, that's a bad habit in the media in terms of sensationalising headlines to the point of dishonesty.

Listening to the full context of the segment, at least to me, it comes across as a more figurative sentence rather than a literal description. It's quite an off hand comment in the discussion. In my view, it's speaking more to Oliver mentally checking out from the Demons, as opposed to literally cleaning his locker out.

I'm guilty of that. But even as a figurative statement it's quite shocking. 

In the space of five or six weeks, we've gone from Goodwin saying he's never seen a player more determined to return to his very best at the club to people reporting Oliver has no interest in being at Melbourne. 

[Katrina Dee Fan 2,898]

8 minutes ago, Macca said:

Just don't take the media seriously then.  Ignore them if it's going to bother you

You'll never beat them

But there are some truths and lies and embellishment coming from the media

How do you sort that out?  A nose for BS?  That can help but it's tricky

Take the news that Clarrie might take a pay cut ... my immediate thought was that if he definitely wants out, then that could be true

But who wants to give up hundreds of 1000's per season?

Then there's Joe Daniher who has just turned his back on $1Million

So you never know

 

 

I don't take them seriously.  Please point where I have treated the media with anything but contempt.  Problem is the world is full of gullible nutbags who take the media at face value.  

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3 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I think a lot of people have stopped at the headline and not listened to the full discussion. To be fair, that's a bad habit in the media in terms of sensationalising headlines to the point of dishonesty.

Listening to the full context of the segment, at least to me, it comes across as a more figurative sentence rather than a literal description. It's quite an off hand comment in the discussion. In my view, it's speaking more to Oliver mentally checking out from the Demons, as opposed to literally cleaning his locker out.

Respectfully disagree. 
From what I gather, we are talking about 3AW and Matthew Lloyd potentially referring to a comment made by Sam McClure.  There is nothing nuanced, figurative or creative at play here is there? 

[Katrina Dee Fan 2,898]

6 minutes ago, FreedFromDesire said:

I think a lot of people have stopped at the headline and not listened to the full discussion. To be fair, that's a bad habit in the media in terms of sensationalising headlines to the point of dishonesty.

Listening to the full context of the segment, at least to me, it comes across as a more figurative sentence rather than a literal description. It's quite an off hand comment in the discussion. In my view, it's speaking more to Oliver mentally checking out from the Demons, as opposed to literally cleaning his locker out.

Also hell of a commute from Rich River to Shepparton, which is where Sam Manure says he is.

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3 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

He's right, Pert's position is becoming untenable

Yeah, if you say it enough…

[Uncle Fester 2,848]

Lloyd? I mean seriously? Lloyd?

 
Wasn't he the one that destabilised Essendon to bring back his mate Hird?

That guy is a moron. He has more blood on his hands, and more bad shots at the dart board, than anyone else I can think of.

I wouldn't trust him if he told me the sun was coming up tomorrow.

Rant over on Lloyd, but maybe I missed something... why are some of the media saying Pert is now untenable. I don't want HS or Age stories regurgitated to me, more if someone with a bit of inside idea can explain things.

 

 

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Just now, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Also hell of a commute from Rich River to Shepparton, which is where Sam Manure says he is.

I think that is potentially a figurative statement of him being in Shepparton.  

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3 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

Respectfully disagree. 
From what I gather, we are talking about 3AW and Matthew Lloyd potentially referring to a comment made by Sam McClure.  There is nothing nuanced, figurative or creative at play here is there? 

I think you may have misunderstood my point Ouch. I'm merely talking about the 'cleaning out his locker' comment, which comes across clearly as a figurative statement. I'm not saying anything about the accuracy of the reporting as such.

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3 minutes ago, rpfc said:

Yeah, if you say it enough…

Dr Gonzo always says it. I think he is in the same group as Hawk the Demon and Dr Don Duffy - the Lawrence group.

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8 minutes ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Also hell of a commute from Rich River to Shepparton, which is where Sam Manure says he is.

I wouldn't say 'hell of a commute'. Gunbower, Rich River and Shepparton are all within around about an 80km radius, with Echuca in the middle.

[Demonland 70,674]

Some Clarrification

 

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3 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Some Clarrification

 

yeah.... I saw what you did there ;) how long have you been hanging on waiting to use clarrification huh? 🤔

[He de mon 912]

I wonder if the “leaker” is actually a Demonlander attempting to keep the trade threads interesting.

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The fact Clarry's mum is now jumping on to de-value articles makes me feel a lot better about where the real story is and that it is mostly a Media beat up.

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13 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Dr Gonzo always says it. I think he is in the same group as Hawk the Demon and Dr Don Duffy - the Lawrence group.

Flattery will get you…somewhere!

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3 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

yeah.... I saw what you did there ;) how long have you been hanging on waiting to use clarrification huh? 🤔

Just thought of it but am working on one for Trac next trade period. 

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12 minutes ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

I don't take them seriously.  Please point where I have treated the media with anything but contempt.  Problem is the world is full of gullible nutbags who take the media at face value.  

Just ignore as they are not really hurting the FD or the players

In fact, galvanising and using the 'us against them' is still quite relevant in sports

e.g. Port using Ginnivans comments to fire the team up ...  That stuff still works 

I agree with you with regards to those who believe all the media ... but it's any excuse to get stuck into their own club for those types

But further to that those same types are really bad losers and are bitter and twisted about the club not winning the flag in the last 3 years

There's at least 10 people on this site who think that way ... and they are very loud about it too

But again, best to ignore

So it's not necessarily the media, it's those with an agenda who use the media tripe to their advantage

They'll often come out with "Where have they been wrong?"  

Of course, the media are wrong constantly and we should start a thread about all their idiotic big statements they make

Robbo, Caro, Hutchy, Morris, Eddie etc mostly talk rot

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19 minutes ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

Also hell of a commute from Rich River to Shepparton, which is where Sam Manure says he is.

18 minutes ago, Ouch! said:

I think that is potentially a figurative statement of him being in Shepparton.  

He heads back home to Echuca every off season for a bit.  I was lucky enough to have a quick kick with him as he was running laps around Vic Park (Echuca's home ground) last off season.

Other than playing some junior footy in Mooroopna to get into the Bushrangers, I doubt he has many other reasons to be heading to Shepparton.

I've had a bit to do with him and think he's a ripper of a lad.  Sadly, he'll never have the polish of a Brayshaw, will to be individually the GOAT like Trac or grow a social media/business empire like Gawn.

He's just a simple country lad from hard working parents with sadly (sorry Clayton), probably not a great deal going on in his scone.

He desperately needs good role models around him to get the best out of him as without these I do worry about what will happen to him career wise.

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6 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Just thought of it but am working on one for Trac next trade period. 

May I suggest Backtraccing  ;)  I suspect it will work.

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