Oliver Trade Rumours

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17 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Is Sam McClure related to Troy McClure? 

 

[Mach5 4,767]

45 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Is Sam McClure related to Troy McClure? 

Must be - he’s starting to look like Sellers.

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Who is this 'Sam Manure' and why should I bother with him?

[KozzyCan 764]

This whole thing could have been handled way better if we just carried the Paul Roos mantra of 'anyone is tradable for the right price'. Would take all the pressure off the club for 'shopping players around' and players would never feel like the club is dealing behind their back. If a player gets chased while they're in contract you just tell them its fine and they can explore it but the deal has to work for us. All the secret dealing behind the scenes, leaks to the media followed by emphatic statements just make the club look silly and rudderless as soon as circumstances change.

[mo64 5,843]

22 minutes ago, KozzyCan said:

This whole thing could have been handled way better if we just carried the Paul Roos mantra of 'anyone is tradable for the right price'. Would take all the pressure off the club for 'shopping players around' and players would never feel like the club is dealing behind their back. If a player gets chased while they're in contract you just tell them its fine and they can explore it but the deal has to work for us. All the secret dealing behind the scenes, leaks to the media followed by emphatic statements just make the club look silly and rudderless as soon as circumstances change.

Well said. We don't need club officials coming out and saying "We love Clarry". Clubs and players need to be more mature about what goes on behind the scenes when it comes to trades. And it's a two way street. 

The reality is that if Richmond or North had shown interest, and were prepared to offer a fair trade, then the club would have been happy to trade him. Once Geelong became the only suitor, a trade was never going to get done.

Lamb and co. can deny that Oliver was "shopped around", but we wouldn't have 100 pages of "Oliver trade rumours" if he wasn't. It's naive for people on here to think that it was a media beat up.

 

Edited October 7 by mo64

[GM11 776]

10 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Well said. We don't need club officials coming out and saying "We love Clarry". Clubs and players need to be more mature about what goes on behind the scenes when it comes to trades. And it's a two way street. 

The reality is that if Richmond or North had shown interest, and were prepared to offer a fair trade, then the club would have been happy to trade him. Once Geelong became the only suitor, a trade was never going to get done.

Lamb and co. can deny that Oliver was "shopped around", but we wouldn't have 100 pages of "Oliver trade rumours" if he wasn't. It's naive for people on here to think that it was a media beat up.

 

Yeah, we would.

[Lexinator 1,655]

21 hours ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Except that Clarry liked the instagram post that said he could be joining Bayley Smith and Jack Martin at the Cattery. 

As text has no context, it could be possibly interpreted as sarcasm too. 

[Ollie fan 3,349]

27 minutes ago, Lexinator said:

As text has no context, it could be possibly interpreted as sarcasm too. 

I think it was probably a joke. You don't get to change your mind after you have done it, and I suspect it was like the occasion where he clutched at his hamstring at training as a joke.

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2 hours ago, KozzyCan said:

This whole thing could have been handled way better if we just carried the Paul Roos mantra of 'anyone is tradable for the right price'. Would take all the pressure off the club for 'shopping players around' and players would never feel like the club is dealing behind their back. If a player gets chased while they're in contract you just tell them its fine and they can explore it but the deal has to work for us. All the secret dealing behind the scenes, leaks to the media followed by emphatic statements just make the club look silly and rudderless as soon as circumstances change.

It is Media Management 101 when you can't definitively answer:

You don't lie, and you don't tell the truth. You dance around the truth and sit on the lie. 

 

Key messages:

Clayton is very important to our team, he's highly valued by us and we love him at the club.

Trade period is the only time of year where teams can come together to talk about improving their lists.

During trade period you get trade offers, and you might spend 5 seconds or 5 days weighting up that offer.

We are not actively seeking to trade Clayton.

We can't stop teams from actively pursuing him or any other player during trade period. 

[Willmoy1947 4,069]

22 hours ago, Rab D Nesbitt said:

Except that Clarry liked the instagram post that said he could be joining Bayley Smith and Jack Martin at the Cattery. 

I reckon that's funny and shows how Clarry likes sticking it up maggots as well

[SPC 3,532]

This will be hugely unpopular, but I believe with limited knowledge of the internal situation, that Melbourne will regret not trading one or more of Clarry, Trac or Kos. I have a feeling that one or more will request a trade next year. 
Happy to be wrong, hoping I’m wrong.. 

[The Taciturn Demon 422]

2 minutes ago, SPC said:

Happy to be wrong, hoping I’m wrong.. 

I hope you're wrong as well, but think this is extremely likely, mainly because I don't think we're ready to bounce back and win finals in 2025. 

But I'm not convinced that we'll regret not doing it this year. Oliver is surely at his lowest 'value' in a decade. I have extremely high hopes for an exceptional Pickett season in 2025. Petracca may struggle to get on the park, but who was going to fit him into their cap and offer something enticing this year? All are in contract next year. 

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5 minutes ago, SPC said:

This will be hugely unpopular, but I believe with limited knowledge of the internal situation, that Melbourne will regret not trading one or more of Clarry, Trac or Kos. I have a feeling that one or more will request a trade next year. 
Happy to be wrong, hoping I’m wrong.. 

We'd likely be getting unders for all three this year so not sure why we'd regret it.

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3 minutes ago, SPC said:

This will be hugely unpopular, but I believe with limited knowledge of the internal situation, that Melbourne will regret not trading one or more of Clarry, Trac or Kos. I have a feeling that one or more will request a trade next year. 
Happy to be wrong, hoping I’m wrong.. 

if we crash and burn next year then I’d trade one or both  for 2 very high picks each, I’d just be on the front foot about it and own the decision across the whole club. Crash the media by spelling out what we’re doing and why. I’d do everything possible to keep Kozz. 

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2 minutes ago, SPC said:

This will be hugely unpopular, but I believe with limited knowledge of the internal situation, that Melbourne will regret not trading one or more of Clarry, Trac or Kos. I have a feeling that one or more will request a trade next year. 
Happy to be wrong, hoping I’m wrong.. 

Could certainly happen. Especially if we miss finals again

However Clarry worth can't be much worse than it is now (Cats would have screwed us with a 2nd rounder)

Trac is under an injury cloud.

So if it does happen hopefully we don't regret and can actually get more for them

[Willmoy1947 4,069]

Two things.....Are we creating a confused atmosphere where Trac is perceived to be under a permanent injury cloud though the whole year 2025?

                        Put up your hand if you were one of the ones who said Petty was gone, thinking of going, heard he was going {reliable source} knew he was going or just gullible enough.

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26 minutes ago, SPC said:

Melbourne will regret not trading one or more of Clarry

I'm in favour of trading Oliver because premierships are being won by teams moving the ball quickly through the corridor and Oliver isn't suited to that style of play.  We need to get players in who are quick and good by foot.

[waynewussell 5,147]

4 minutes ago, greenwaves said:

I'm in favour of trading Oliver because premierships are being won by teams moving the ball quickly through the corridor and Oliver isn't suited to that style of play.  We need to get players in who are quick and good by foot.

Oliver has burst speed... is as quick by hand as anyone and almost always kicks down the corridor... Your point?

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8 minutes ago, greenwaves said:

I'm in favour of trading Oliver because premierships are being won by teams moving the ball quickly through the corridor and Oliver isn't suited to that style of play.  We need to get players in who are quick and good by foot.

Dude, Oliver at or near his best is our only hope of snagging a flag over the next few years. Forget how teams our winning flags atm, it's all about how the next team wins a flag and although I'm doubtful it'll be us it won't be because we didn't trade Oliver for a peanut.

[Willmoy1947 4,069]

Don't you have to get the ball?

He gets the ball.

[Billy 2,521]

35 minutes ago, greenwaves said:

I'm in favour of trading Oliver because premierships are being won by teams moving the ball quickly through the corridor and Oliver isn't suited to that style of play.  We need to get players in who are quick and good by foot.

Come on now, when Oliver is up and going his ability to get the hard ball and breaking out of congestion then quickly dishing out to someone in space by hand is the best in the comp.

A fit and firing Clarry is the he key, his hand was buggered all year and admittedly fitness not up to scratch.

He owes us & deserves one last chance to get back to the form of his first 150 games 

 

Getting good ball users is they key when given the space by Clarry 

 

[demoniac 1,330]

If Oliver can keep addressing his non football issues then he may get back to the elite fitness levels AFL demands and once again be a valuable player for the Dees after 2 years of effectively zero production due to those non football issues.

Will he be at the Dees in 2025? We'll know at the end of trade period. Sometimes reservoirs of patience and energy can be exhausted. Football clubs are no different.

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22 hours ago, Roost it far said:

Personally I thought he played it well. He's not at the club to be a media performer. He answered pretty honestly considering what's been going on. Whether he is the right man for the job should always be up for debate but hanging him for that interview....i don't think so. He didn't "Roffey" it.  Feels to me that Pert's walking away unscathed and considering where we find ourselves that's plain wrong imho. I don't think our President and board are up to the job and I hope the reviews point the spotlight firmly in their direction. As for Pert, I hope we're actively looking for a replacement.

Judge and jury, what the hell, just lynch them all, they made us embarrassed and angry so they deserve to die. What about the clubs that we have been talking to “confidentially” do you think they may have reasons to leak the confidential discussions  to the media. Oh by the way Tom, Mitch etc we are having Clayton meet a couple of our boys out on the Farm, I think Geeelong haven’t gotten over the embarrassment of that Slaughter in the Preliminary Final. Our recruiting team were hung out to dry in the public domain. Who can Tim Trust.???

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1 hour ago, Willmoy1947 said:

Two things.....Are we creating a confused atmosphere where Trac is perceived to be under a permanent injury cloud though the whole year 2025?

                        Put up your hand if you were one of the ones who said Petty was gone, thinking of going, heard he was going {reliable source} knew he was going or just gullible enough.

Good point about Tracca Wilmoy1947 he is in Austria preparing his body for a big 2025 we should expect the warrior that he is to be ready to go at the end of preseason.

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