21 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

Wade Derksen should be a Dee in 2026

Kadean Coleman is in the VFL and could be a target since his younger bro relocated to Melbourne (Williamstown)

Ash Johnson worth a look, Pies have plenty in front of him

Mal Rosas at the Suns would be gettable, was told he could look elsewhere in 2025 but stayed

I don't mean to be rude of facetious, but why would we target players that are failing to make an appearance at AFL level?

The probability of them excelling and displacing someone in our bottom 6 is incredibly small let alone having a chance to improve our best 22. The money it would take to dislodge them would be a waste. Now if its to improve our VFL side, well then thats another matter, but i fail to see the point of targeting the top echelon of VFL players.

Again not to be rude and others have also called out similar ideas, but these types of trades will do nothing. They are akin to the Schache, Culley, Henderson, Sharp, Fullarton trades and all know how that has worked out.

16 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

I don't mean to be rude of facetious, but why would we target players that are failing to make an appearance at AFL level?

The probability of them excelling and displacing someone in our bottom 6 is incredibly small let alone having a chance to improve our best 22. The money it would take to dislodge them would be a waste. Now if its to improve our VFL side, well then thats another matter, but i fail to see the point of targeting the top echelon of VFL players.

Again not to be rude and others have also called out similar ideas, but these types of trades will do nothing. They are akin to the Schache, Culley, Henderson, Sharp, Fullarton trades and all know how that has worked out.

I think it would be partly because we will struggle to attract talent that is in demand due to how we have gone the last few seasons on and off field.

Secondly just because someone can't get a game in one side doesn't mean they can't be an asset in another. They're not superstars but Toby Bedford wasn't a regular when GWS picked him up from Melbourne (we wanted to keep him and were blindsided) and has become a much better player. Even Jordon at Sydney - they didn't win the flag but he was in their grand final team in a very deep midfield after being on the outer at Melbourne.

54 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

Wade Derksen should be a Dee in 2026

Kadean Coleman is in the VFL and could be a target since his younger bro relocated to Melbourne (Williamstown)

Ash Johnson worth a look, Pies have plenty in front of him

Mal Rosas at the Suns would be gettable, was told he could look elsewhere in 2025 but stayed

Outside Coleman, they're all battlers who can't get a game or past it.

What's the story with Keidean Coleman? I know he's been injured. Is he in VFL due to returning from injury or has he fallen out of favor? He's a game changer, but doubt he's available.

Tim Lamb loves a dud.

1 minute ago, Lord Travis said:

Outside Coleman, they're all battlers who can't get a game or past it.

What's the story with Keidean Coleman? I know he's been injured. Is he in VFL due to returning from injury or has he fallen out of favor? He's a game changer, but doubt he's available.

I think it’s just match fitness. I’d put him in ice u til next year. Some players take time and some don’t ever get back to what they were before the ACL. Kiddy was a similar player to NAS and the Lions will never let him go. He’ll be back in action 2026 no doubt.

53 minutes ago, SthSea22 said:

Wade Derksen should be a Dee in 2026

Kadean Coleman is in the VFL and could be a target since his younger bro relocated to Melbourne (Williamstown)

Ash Johnson worth a look, Pies have plenty in front of him

Mal Rosas at the Suns would be gettable, was told he could look elsewhere in 2025 but stayed

Derkson sounds likely now out of contract. Behind Taylor, Buckley, Himmelberg and Aleer (can play just needs opportunity)
Ash Johnson a hard no.
Coleman would be a pipe dream is only in VFL as he recovers from injury. I suggest he will be in side before season finsihes.
Rosas should be on our radar. Speed, pressure, wins inside ball and kicks goals. Change will be good.
Whilst we are at Suns we should target Alex Davies if we move on Oliver. Showed on weekend that he has inside bull winning abilities and also has class (30 possessions at 83% efficiency and 10 tackles).

I would also look to target Max Hall from StKilda who is out of contract and may be able to be stolen with a better contract. Hard and clean and has really elevated his game recently with midfield minutes.

I hope/assume we have some bigger plays up our sleeves but I suggest realistically they will be hard for us to get ahead of others.

Just like clubs picked off some of our extended list in our stronger period there is nothing wrong with doing the same to others and doesnt mean they dont add value to your best 23. Look at Jordon, Bedford, Harmes and Wagner as current examples.

2 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Outside Coleman, they're all battlers who can't get a game or past it.

What's the story with Keidean Coleman? I know he's been injured. Is he in VFL due to returning from injury or has he fallen out of favor? He's a game changer, but doubt he's available.

6 minutes ago, GS_1905 said:

I think it’s just match fitness. I’d put him in ice u til next year. Some players take time and some don’t ever get back to what they were before the ACL. Kiddy was a similar player to NAS and the Lions will never let him go. He’ll be back in action 2026 no doubt.

Coleman is just injury prone after that ACL - just reported that he is out for 6-8 with a quad injury.

Clayton Oliver, Bayley Fritsch & Jake Lever (Melbourne)

“Similarly, significant change is coming at Melbourne on and off the field.

“Clayton Oliver’s huge salary works against him now if he wants to leave, which I believe he still does. There’s Bayley Fritsch and even Jake Lever there too. They’re two players to keep an eye on.”

1 hour ago, MurDoc516 said:

Tim Lamb loves a dud.

Absolutely. And Derksen is that

We should keep Oliver as a sub from now on, hopefully he will accept less money elsewhere next year. Trade targets should be zero, why should we be responsible for wrecking someone's career?

Up and coming players should leave before it is too late, fear that nobody will be interested in them. Brad Green along with the other clowns need to pack there bags.

North have interest in Lever.

Where do I sign?

Been a grand servant of this club but his body is absolutely cooked and a cannot remember the last time he played a standout game.

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

North have interest in Lever.

Where do I sign?

Been a grand servant of this club but his body is absolutely cooked and a cannot remember the last time he played a standout game.

you can understand why - they're crying out for leadership and experience, particularly defensively

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

North have interest in Lever.

Where do I sign?

Been a grand servant of this club but his body is absolutely cooked and a cannot remember the last time he played a standout game.

They’re the one club that I figured might have a look, with the Viney connection and a need for experience in defence.

1 minute ago, ChaserJ said:

They’re the one club that I figured might have a look, with the Viney connection and a need for experience in defence.

He suits them perfectly.

6 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

They’re the one club that I figured might have a look, with the Viney connection and a need for experience in defence.

if this happens... thanks Todd :-)

Well that’s one down, now to find a suitor for Oliver (good luck)

24 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He suits them perfectly.

And what do we ask for in return?

29 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

you can understand why - they're crying out for leadership and experience, particularly defensively

We’ll take Dursma off their hands

38 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

North have interest in Lever.

Where do I sign?

Been a grand servant of this club but his body is absolutely cooked and a cannot remember the last time he played a standout game.

Lever is exactly the kind of player we should be moving on and would be fantastic for North.

No way we're going to be moving on one of Goody's favourites though.

40 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

North have interest in Lever.

Where do I sign?

Been a grand servant of this club but his body is absolutely cooked and a cannot remember the last time he played a standout game.

awesome, petty and turner is the future of the back 6. get this done

I am surprised anyone would have interest in Lever personally. He may have leadership qualities but the current game style just exposes him one on one defensively and has injury issues

I wouldn’t be surprised if another club tried to lure Gawn out though.

I don’t think this should be Simon’s decision

Just now, ANG13 said:

I am surprised anyone would have interest in Lever personally. He may have leadership qualities but the current game style just exposes him one on one defensively and has injury issues

I wouldn’t be surprised if another club tried to lure Gawn out though.

Gawn? 2 x first rounders

Not sure if he is exactly a trade target...but Campbell Chesser from the West Coast Eagles is out of contract at the end of this season.

Worth a punt?