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8 minutes ago, Clayton van Oliver said:

What are you on about? Bloke's had us in top 4 for 3.5 years. You obviously weren't around for the bad years. 

Judd, Kerr and Cousins also only got one flag, were they also wasted careers?

Entitled Melbourne supporters will get us back to dark ages, not Simon Goodwin

Don’t agree with moving Goodwin on but he needs to come clean on where the list is at, the longer we are in denial the longer the fall will be. And that wc team did massively under achieve and I think when we look back we will say the same about this team to.

Edited by Garbo

 
5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Reality check.

Goodwin has to come under extreme pressure now. This has been building since thr Brisbane game.

Tim Lamb needs to also come under serious scrutiny, he's butchered the list since the grand final.

The DNA of today’s performance goes back  pre season 2022.

The elephant’s been in the room since then. 
This team, IMO, fell for the tap of thinking they could turn the tap on ( resulting in quick succession of goals) when whenever the felt like it. Whilst it  made for spectacular viewing it had a underlining arrogance to it. Supporting that mindset was Goodwin’s and the FD’s Blind faith in the Game plan, the players abilities and the overall quality of the list. It was clear to see due to the sameness and lack of innovation, the reluctance to change during  games and even in list management.

Strangely, we all have something to look forward too, a line in the sand moment. 
That is the Players and FD response, not just for next week v Collingwood, but ever game for the rest of the season until there is no more.

Lack of an appropriate response should demand very serious changes off season.

On the other hand a Flag may still result. 

Over to you Simon Goodwin and the 23 that run out each week.

6 minutes ago, Brownie said:

I thought today was another whole big step down.

Totally agree. When they look at the ladder and see the percentage they lost! Awful game. 

 
7 minutes ago, Phil C said:

If McAdam and Petty play next week I must seriously be watching a different game. Absolute trash again. 

Correct. Petty nevers plays forward again - and the outcome will say a lot about Simon and inability to become creative mid-season when its necessary.  Still have faith in on-field leaders though.

Edited by Demon17

14 minutes ago, Brownie said:

I think Max may have been out best midfielder today.

Full credit to the boys, they chased their opponents around hard all day.

You cannot be serious Brownie. If you are, admin needs to ban this person for stupidity.


3 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

No team that has won their premiership has lost by >90 pts this century I’d say so please let’s not have any, “oh we can still win it bs”

Port Adelaide lost by 92 points in round 8 2004 - one of three VFL/AFL teams to lose by 90+ points and win the premiership in the same season (Carlton 1945 and Essendon 1949 are the other two).

Just in case anyone thought our loss to West Coast was an aberration, we got confirmation that finals are beyond us this year and a reboot is required.

The loss of Lever and Van Rooyen hurt, but it was more the lack of unity across the entire ground as kicks were missed and confidence level dropped to the Neeld era.

It will be a huge task for Goody this week to restore our players faith in each other.  

2 minutes ago, BDA said:

How do you explain 3 consecutive top 4 finishes and a flag the last 3 years.

Living in the past. 

 

As much as we hate Collingwood, you don’t see them putting in the performances we have against Eagles and Dockers! There is no excuse for capitulation! White flag is up, we have had enough. Premiership window is officially closed! This group have served us well for four years. They are saying “we can’t do it anymore!” Time for a strategic rebuild of the whole operation!

Screwed over by the fixturing again , we only had a 7 day break. Can’t be expected to keep backing up like that. 


It’s time for the club to become unsociable and show some toughness rather than increasingly focusing on the woke and feel good. 

4 minutes ago, WheeloRatings said:

Port Adelaide lost by 92 points in round 8 2004 - one of three VFL/AFL teams to lose by 90+ points and win the premiership in the same season (Carlton 1945 and Essendon 1949 are the other two).

Referencing 2004 in 2024 is like referencing 1984 in 2004. Totally different games. The league is holistically much tougher (and better) now. Good teams don't lose like that. Fullstop.

All that will happen post that loss is goodwin's usual robotic press conference and a disappointed player interview. We may win a few more matches this season but performances like this will continue to become more frequent. Any change seems impermanent, always talk and never actions.

Who's going to take accountability, probably not a single person. 


Another issue we have is that since 2021, with our older players now having kids and being married and our coach now being single, their private lives aren’t on the same page hence the coach has lost the players. Who does Goodwin have to enjoy life with now?? 

Edited by Age

It's very rare for teams to stay right at the top for 4 seasons...3 happens pretty regularly but getting to 4 is hard. Naturally fringe players look for opportunities elsewhere and the depth just isn't there.

Ultimately we didn't cash in on our 3 year window. 2022 was always going to be tough as Geelong were humming...but to choke away decent leads in finals at your home ground against fairly ordinary interstate teams raised real red flags about the competitiveness of our players.

And the less said about last year the better...choking in front of goal 2 weeks in a row and watching probably the most ordinary premiership side of a generation take the cake was embarrassing. In the first quarter of our final vs. Coll our intensity levels looked like it was a pre season game...just bizarre and emblematic of a playing group that has just struggled to maintain the physicality required.

Glad we snuck one in '21 and gave this generation of fans one to hang on to. But the club, mostly the players, talked the talk but didn't walk the walk and we squandered a golden opportunity to return the club to former glory.

3 minutes ago, Heart Beats True said:

It’s time for the club to become unsociable and show some toughness rather than increasingly focusing on the woke and feel good. 

Lol yes, woke is the problem.. incredible analysis


1 minute ago, Age said:

Another issue we have is that since 2021, with our older players now having kids and being married and our coach now being single, their private lives aren’t on the same page hence the coach has lost the players. Who does Goodwin have to enjoy life now?? 

Talk about jumping the shark.

Everyone can blame the forward line but you can only succeed if you have not only a number of entries but the quality of entries and ours is woeful and has been since 22 they all go in a central position and everyone going for the same ball.

1 minute ago, Age said:

Another issue we have is that since 2021, with our older players now having kids and being married and our coach now being single, their private lives aren’t on the same page hence the coach has lost the players. Who does Goodwin have to enjoy life now?? 

Brilliant analysis. Your depth of thought is mind boggling! You have the intelligence to render AI redundant!

 

If we want to change the gamestyle we need to bring in more players to execute it. This is correct yes.

The argument can be made though that we didn't have the personel for the old gameplan either though. That style seemed to illuminate our deficiencies up forward even more than this one. 

We were definitely close last year and it worked for the most part, but we seem to be poor goal kickers a lot when the whips are cracking and 3 finals in a row of this is sufficient evidence of this for me not to mention getting burned by the teams that setup for it. 

I don't know what the way forward is right now but I'm not going to pretend that the old way was perfect. I don't condone losses like this but if we just went back to the well with the old stuff I'd be disappointed.

3 minutes ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Who did we play today? I thought Freeo were stuck in Perth?

Thank you.  This made me get close to laughing.  


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