The State can’t afford it, so the AFL would be mad to go ahead with any intent at this stage

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Sounds like it’s doa

People are so scared of change and things they don't fully understand.

The Tasmanian naysayers don't like "mainlanders" and think this is a bulldozing job by said "mainlanders" to ruin their state

They are generally bigotted people who turn themselves into victims. They will protest the whole way through the project for reasons they forget. They are similar to the "save Albert Park" mob.

Then when the team is up and running they will sit in the stands and complain that every free kick against them is some sort of conspiracy that they are just fodder to the big Victorian clubs.

I really hope these negative nancies don't win and a magnificent stadium gets built and Tassie gets a team. It will be a massive boon for their economy, my only concern being that it will be booked out all the time with its very limited capacity. It will be like getting finals tickets, but overall I'm really looking forward to getting down there.

2 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The State can’t afford it, so the AFL would be mad to go ahead with any intent at this stage

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Fixed 😉

1 hour ago, deespicable me said:

People are so scared of change and things they don't fully understand.

The Tasmanian naysayers don't like "mainlanders" and think this is a bulldozing job by said "mainlanders" to ruin their state

They are generally bigotted people who turn themselves into victims. They will protest the whole way through the project for reasons they forget. They are similar to the "save Albert Park" mob.

Then when the team is up and running they will sit in the stands and complain that every free kick against them is some sort of conspiracy that they are just fodder to the big Victorian clubs.

I really hope these negative nancies don't win and a magnificent stadium gets built and Tassie gets a team. It will be a massive boon for their economy, my only concern being that it will be booked out all the time with its very limited capacity. It will be like getting finals tickets, but overall I'm really looking forward to getting down there.

It’s not a matter of being negative.

They cannot afford the cost

i really just don't understand why they cant play at the two stadiums hawks and north play at until they work out and build this one???

If it gets canned by the government then the AFL Needs to pull out entirely so no more north and hawthorn playing there at all

13 minutes ago, jaydenh10 said:

i really just don't understand why they cant play at the two stadiums hawks and north play at until they work out and build this one???

cos the afl was trying to bulldoze it through, in classique afl style

the afl's mandate that 'no new roofed stadium, no team' is patently absurd

18 minutes ago, jaydenh10 said:

i really just don't understand why they cant play at the two stadiums hawks and north play at until they work out and build this one???

That WOULD be a logical approach.

....and obvious. Bizarre really.

Can't have a start date without the ground. Do more work on the ground and revisit s other have said and at the same time develop a long term vision for how many teams in the AFL, future of Academies, compromised drafts etc.

these big infrastructure projects are just naked pork barrelling

a perfectly good stadium can be built for at least half the price

a roof is totally unncessary

tax payers shouldn't have to stump up for poor value, pork barrelling projects

hopefully common sense prevails

So the Tasmanian Devil really is extinct?

1 minute ago, Whispering_Jack said:

So the Tasmanian Devil really is extinct?

just endangered

The roof is the big issue for me. We should have told the AFL where to go when they demanded a roof. No other expansion team or any team for that matter had such a demand put on them.

Weather here is ok to already play 8 games a season without any roof. We get less rain than NSW and Queensland. Yes it’s colder and maybe a bit windy. Deal with it.

Roof also means that no cricket games could be played there so it would just be around 8 AfL games a season as o assume 3/4 would be played in Launceston.

15 minutes ago, Colm said:

The roof is the big issue for me. We should have told the AFL where to go when they demanded a roof. No other expansion team or any team for that matter had such a demand put on them.

Weather here is ok to already play 8 games a season without any roof. We get less rain than NSW and Queensland. Yes it’s colder and maybe a bit windy. Deal with it.

Roof also means that no cricket games could be played there so it would just be around 8 AfL games a season as o assume 3/4 would be played in Launceston.

Why no cricket?

2 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

Why no cricket?

Height issues with the roof. Not a retracting roof like Marvel.

6 minutes ago, Colm said:

Height issues with the roof. Not a retracting roof like Marvel.

not height; shadows

the design is 'aesthetically pleasing' apart from all the shadows on the pitch

30 minutes ago, Colm said:

Yes it’s colder and maybe a bit windy. Deal with it.

a coat and scarf solves that problem

Blame the strange voting system in Tasmania.

If this was in say SA no party would dare go to an election saying no to the stadium simply because it would cause a 5% swing that could lose a crucial seat.

Tasmania is more like the Federal Senate with each area (boundaries are the same as the Federal seats) electing seven members.

Thus like the Senate the last two elected in each of the seven areas hold a crucial balancing vote. You don't need many votes to get those last two spots.

What a "Devil" of a system

Correct me if I’m wrong but this is the AFL pushing a stadium down the throats of a State that can’t afford it. Pretty sure the overwhelming bulk of Tasmanian’s want the team but only a minority want the stadium. Thing is Dillon is committed and considering what a mess he’s making of his leadership he really needs a victory here. The stadium and surrounding improvements including transport won’t cost less than $1.4 billion, that’s a lot of teachers and nurses.

The best part is that we were already talking about draft concessions before anything other than a name and logo got done.

Tasmania is a broke state...they cant fund their own hospitals. If the AFL wants it, it needs to cough up more.

42 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Blame the strange voting system in Tasmania.

If this was in say SA no party would dare go to an election saying no to the stadium simply because it would cause a 5% swing that could lose a crucial seat.

Tasmania is more like the Federal Senate with each area (boundaries are the same as the Federal seats) electing seven members.

Thus like the Senate the last two elected in each of the seven areas hold a crucial balancing vote. You don't need many votes to get those last two spots.

What a "Devil" of a system

The multi member district system (including the senate) provides a much better representation of the population in parliament than single member districts do.

In the recent federal election the 2 major parties captured about 67% of the votes but a combined 91% of the seats. On the other hand the Greens got more than 12% of the vote (1 in 8 people voted Greens) but only 0.6% of the seats.

Preference voting means that the results represent a better outcome than FPTP would, but it's pretty clearly it's not representative.

For what it's worth, you need the same number of votes for each seat in the Tasmanian multi member district (1 quota, either before or after preference distribution). The last seats don't get in with less.

6 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The State can’t afford it, so the AFL would be mad to go ahead with any intent at this stage

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I tend to agree, based upon the rumored cost and short timeline.

Small population/economy, with considerable disadvantage outside of Hobart. The money the Tas State government has committed would do a lot for education, healthcare and employment generally.

Would it be a different story if the Fed govt put in the majority of the funds? Maybe.

I find it hard to believe a 25,000 seat stadium would cost around $1.5b which is what it will be (if not more) when the first ball is bounced.

The roof is unnecessary. I've watched the Dees in Canberra mid winter when it was 6 deg all afternoon and sleet came in at 45deg. Fcs, the Hawks game there had snow! If there's no need for a roof there, the AFL should ease up on it for Tassie.

AFL requirements making it near impossible for this to happen

Edited June 4Jun 4 by Stiff Arm

22 minutes ago, darkhorse72 said:

Tasmania is a broke state...they cant fund their own hospitals. If the AFL wants it, it needs to cough up more.

Hospitals here get enough $$$, it is poorly spent. Stadium will be good for us.