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PREGAME: Rd 02 vs Hawthorn

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1 hour ago, monoccular said:

By all accounts Petty wasn’t up to form in the VFL practice game, and BBB did a great job (yes maybe on a NQR opponent) so why in the world make that change, yet ??

My reason is coz Petty is a better player and there isn't room for both of them - no knock on Brown who did his job but he was up against a guy who is inexperienced, 10cm shorter and 15kg lighter....the Petty and JVR combo looked dynamic in the couple of matches we saw it last year so time to keep building that synergy

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15 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

It's a membership 'replacement' game, is that right?

Yep.

 
2 hours ago, deanox said:

Here's the full list.

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I was looking for the CBA stats. Which app did you get these on? I could not find anything on the AFL website.

1 hour ago, sisso said:

My reason is coz Petty is a better player and there isn't room for both of them - no knock on Brown who did his job but he was up against a guy who is inexperienced, 10cm shorter and 15kg lighter....the Petty and JVR combo looked dynamic in the couple of matches we saw it last year so time to keep building that synergy

I’m a big fan of Petty and I admit I have not seen the replay of the WB game yet or the Casey practice match but from the reports on Pettys performance you’d have to question if he is ready for a return to AFL footy

The last thing we need to do is rush him back for him to underperform or worse get an injury - I would have thought we use BBB or Fullarton until Petty is actually ready to go 

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    Sparrow had a job on Dale and did a good job curtailing his influence. Just because you can’t see a player execute their role, doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it. 

    I would keep the same side and give Petty another week. Remembering that we are about to hit a very short break between two Adelaide games and Ben Brown won’t be able to play both. Petty can come in for the Port game and give Ben a rest. 

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    6 minutes ago, Sydee said:

    I’m a big fan of Petty and I admit I have seen the replay of the WB game yet or the Casey practice match but from the reports on Pettys performance you’d have to question if he is ready for a return to AFL footy

    The last thing we need to do is rush him back for him to underperform or worse get an injury - I would have thought we use BBB or Fullarton until Petty is actually ready to go 

    Yes I agree if he's not ready he shouldn't play, up to the coaches and conditioning staff - but Goodwin did say in last nights presser that everything has been building to get him ready for round 2

    2 hours ago, Demon17 said:

    Do you mean petty performance in vfl?

    Expand. Is he out of touch do you think etc and needs a few weeks?

    Thanks 

    Harrison Petty did not get a kick that I saw on Sat. HE IS MILES of it!

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    17 hours ago, DubDee said:

    Sicily got a week for kicking out when he was targeted early. That is very soft. 

    Expect it to be overturned at appeal

    I don't.

    Not only did he upend a guy, which we know can be dangerous, but when the guy hit the ground, he actually kicked him, not heavily, but nevertheless a kick. That is a big no no.

    That is not getting off. 1 week is pretty good I would have thought.

    PS: Just re watched it several times. It's not a tap, its a kick and he deserves 1 week for that at least.

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    5 hours ago, sisso said:

    Petty in for Brown for mine: time to settle our best forward line in, and while Ben was decent he was playing on a flanker. I think JVR+Petty is our best tall forward setup this season

    NO WAY. Petty was almost statless on Saturday

    Brown straightened us up and could have had 3 goals. Instrumental player and I still have doubts re Petty's fitness

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    18 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

    Sparrow had a job on Dale and did a good job curtailing his influence. Just because you can’t see a player execute their role, doesn’t mean they aren’t doing it. 

    I would keep the same side and give Petty another week. Remembering that we are about to hit a very short break between two Adelaide games and Ben Brown won’t be able to play both. Petty can come in for the Port game and give Ben a rest. 

    With their current scenarios, neither Petty of BBB should play 2 games in 5 days.

    We may be a bit lucky having BBB this year, if he can play semi regularly.

    Tom Mac could also prove to be handy as the year unfolds.

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    Dont get all the love for Petty on here,has not done enough to convince me he is a top forward,good backman yes but !!

    17 hours ago, DubDee said:

    Sicily got a week for kicking out when he was targeted early. That is very soft. 

    Expect it to be overturned at appeal

    I find the Sicily decision to be quite strange. Kicking a player deliberately is horrendous behaviour and should be penalised strongly. I would have thought if he's guilty, it should be a three week penalty, irrespective of any harm to the recipient. Alternatively, if he didn't connect, I can see an argument that he should get off altogether. Irrespective of my view, I expect Sicily to play next week.

    11 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

    Geez this place bounces wildly back and forth on Sparrow. I said this after the 2021 grand final and I'll say it again now. He's a great role player who has limitations with his disposal but absolutely busts his backside and always cracks in hard.

    He had 0 CBAs today so naturally his disposals are down. 6 score involvements is solid work though.

    And his effort is all over the tracker sheet. 2nd in sprint distance. 2nd in average speed. 4th in total sprints. 2nd in average speed in attack. 

    Stop with this madness that he'd get dropped for a kid.

    Where did you get these stats from?

    1 hour ago, sisso said:

    My reason is coz Petty is a better player and there isn't room for both of them - no knock on Brown who did his job but he was up against a guy who is inexperienced, 10cm shorter and 15kg lighter....the Petty and JVR combo looked dynamic in the couple of matches we saw it last year so time to keep building that synergy

    We will have to agree to differ then. 
    Petty cannot have gained one ounce of confidence and would be going into an important game (yes, they are all important) bewildered.  Let’s hope he has a good game next weekend at VFL (unless of course there is another bloody bye) and gets right to take to Adelaide which he can look around and see why he doesn’t want to live there. 

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    30 minutes ago, Redleg said:

    With their current scenarios, neither Petty of BBB should play 2 games in 5 days.

    We may be a bit lucky having BBB this year, if he can play semi regularly.

    Tom Mac could also prove to be handy as the year unfolds.

    I agree. I think Petty and BBB should play one game each in SA. Petty against Port, to give Ben Brown a break after 2 games, and then possibly Ben Brown to replace Petty against Adelaide if he needs extra time for his foot to recover.

    Then we will have to backup against Brisbane which will be tough, before a bye.

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    10 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

    I agree. I think Petty and BBB should play one game each in SA. Petty against Port, to give Ben Brown a break after 2 games, and then possibly Ben Brown to replace Petty against Adelaide if he needs extra time for his foot to recover.

    Then we will have to backup against Brisbane which will be tough, before a bye.

    I think the Lions and Pies may be a bit shell shocked and hopefully that hurts their confidence and creates doubt in their game.

    Lions should never have lost to an undermanned and then injury hit Dockers.

    Pies would have lost by a lot more, with normal goal kicking accuracy by Swans and some very soft frees to the Pies for goals.

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    6 hours ago, sisso said:

    Petty in for Brown for mine: time to settle our best forward line in, and while Ben was decent he was playing on a flanker. I think JVR+Petty is our best tall forward setup this season

    No, according to PF Petty couldn't get a kick playing for Casey, not ready yet 

    27 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

    I find the Sicily decision to be quite strange. Kicking a player deliberately is horrendous behaviour and should be penalised strongly. I would have thought if he's guilty, it should be a three week penalty, irrespective of any harm to the recipient. Alternatively, if he didn't connect, I can see an argument that he should get off altogether. Irrespective of my view, I expect Sicily to play next week.

    100% agree. Kicking someone purposely is a no no. I think 1 week is fine given the force he did, but if he got let off I'd be pretty annoyed because it's just something that can't be accepted.

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    17 hours ago, dl4e said:

    Don't drop Sparrow. He will come good.

    I don't think any changes but Petty in is tempting. Play Brown for 1 more week and then bring petty in for Adelaide games.

    Give his suitors a good look?

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    5 hours ago, sisso said:

    Petty in for Brown for mine: time to settle our best forward line in, and while Ben was decent he was playing on a flanker. I think JVR+Petty is our best tall forward setup this season

    I am amazed.  BB kicked two goals, took a number of marks up the ground, will take the main defender next week, ran all over the place. Clearly fit enough. 
    our man Petty first game back in a practice match, only on for 3 quarters and had little impact.   Not sure the FD will agree

     

    i do agree JvR and either Petty Brown or TMac need to be settled as our talls 

     

    it would be good if Smith came back as well as Oliver has, but that race has been run I think.

    3 hours ago, Ungarieboy said:

    When Oliver, Trac and Viney are all having dominant games it's hard for our next midfielder to rack up a lot of disposals. They can't all get it at once!!! Sparrow stays in.

    This fascination of change for changes sake (or to appease our curiosity - "the grass is always greener on the otherside of the fence" approach), is not conducive to strong team culture. A strong team culture builds belief and confidence - which is crucial for players to be in form.

     

    Yeah, agree. 
    You’d never want DLs as your brokers

    3 hours ago, 640MD said:

    We just had a very solid win.

    Goody does not change the lineup if we win well.   No changes,

    perhaps a small tinkering with the substitution player. And emergency group.

    He has in the past. He dropped Tomlinson after a great game and a win.

     

    No Sicily for the Hawks

    This could be ugly for them.

    No change, keep Petty at Casey for another week at least. 

    Is anyone else having issues booking tickets with the replacement barcode?

    I just can't get the tickettek site working.


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