POSTGAME: SF vs Carlton

[Fork 'em 7,043]

1 minute ago, praha said:

It was poor decision making to target Grundy and then not even back him in. You think bringing a player in like that who has such significant cultural impact as he did, almost immediately being "one of the boys" to suddenly being overlooked, doesn't have some sort of impact? Bringing in guys like Jordon when you have even a spark like Woewodin waiting to bring some energy in. Throughout 2022 refusing to play JVR so that in 2023 he is essentially still a rookie and inexperienced.

I also think it's shocking.

We've just demonstrated to any future player we make a pitch to come play for us just how you may get treated.
Good luck with that.

[Devil In Disguise 2,278]

Goody’s been getting a touch of the Bevo’s with his selections since the 2021 flag. 

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[Drunkn167 5,093]

Well that sucked hey boys 

Can we PLEASE trade in a decent key forward this season….

Cyas in 2024 

[rufus 1,162]

2 minutes ago, BoBo said:

If we don’t win it next year, that could be the window closed and we’ll be surpassed by other clubs. 
 

We need to worry about winning a single final...not about winning it all. On the evidence you've seen, what makes you think there's any chance whatsoever that we could win 3 finals in front of big crowds at the MCG? There's literally no chance with this group, who have proven to be massive chokers.

We're going to need to reload and hope that the next generation that come through have some bottle.

[DutchDemons 1,430]

Can we talk about Gawn spoiling Oliver's shot on the line? What the hell was that.

[dazzledavey36 55,855]

4 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Yep weeks? Been happening all season.

I don't know, maybe I was oblivious but I thought at times he was getting better at rolling players through some weeks.

Last week's decision not to play the extra tall defender after seeing it so successful this year completely lost it for me. I just couldn't believe he botched it that badly and it ended up costing us.

We play Tomlinson tonight and we looked much better defensively structured.

Don't get me started on the whole Tmac thing tonight. I need to cool the jets first on this otherwise I'll explode.

[Undeeterred 3,127]

2 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

I also think it's shocking.

We've just demonstrated to any future player we make a pitch to come play for us just how you may get treated.
Good luck with that.

Good point actually

[spalding 1,128]

2 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Could be more straight sets, who knows.

If nothing changes for next year and we don't get a good Psychologist... it'll be tough task.

How about petty and jvr in the forward line. It will make a massive difference.

my view was that a lot of things conspired against us in the last weeks of 2022 and 2023. If you would prefer to see us as chokers then fine. We will find out who is right over the coming years.

 

[The heart beats true 18,183]

8 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Yeah it’s up there with Geelong at the Cattery in 2011 and the Bombers at the G in 2013.

FFS Talk about overreacting 

I was at both those games. We were terrible in 2013, and something culture shifting happened behind closed doors in 2011.

This is different, but if you can’t understand that I’m not going to argue with you. Enjoy your night.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

I don't know, maybe I was oblivious but I thought at times he was getting better at rolling players through some weeks.

Last week's decision not to play the extra tall defender after seeing it so successful this year completely lost it for me. I just couldn't believe he botched it that badly and it ended up costing us.

We play Tomlinson tonight and we looked much better defensively structured.

Don't get me started on the whole Tmac thing tonight. I need to cool the jets first on this otherwise I'll explode.

The issue has been with the third defender and forward selections all year.

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1 minute ago, praha said:

They're lasting games tho. Fitness is clearly not an issue. And we've barely been hit by injuries compared to what the Pies have dealth with over the past two seasons. 

We don't maintain intensity and focus like we used to over 4 quarters. I'm saying though that the mental side under Burgess was better as well.

It's an observation.

Our strategy, ball use and selections are obviously the big problem to be fixed though going forward.

 

 

[Dannyz 2,987]

2 minutes ago, wizardinoz said:

Goody been getting a touch of the Bevo’s with his selections since the 2021 flag. 

I actually think the opposite. He doesn't have the balls to drop his favourites and he doesn't have the balls to select a wildcard (AMW, Woey, Grundy). 

Bevo isn't that. 

[loges 6,767]

9 minutes ago, Fork 'em said:

Point proven it sounds like.

What kind of person comes on here gloating after his side loses ? maybe it's not really his team.

[Undeeterred 3,127]

2 minutes ago, rufus said:

We need to worry about winning a single final...not about winning it all. On the evidence you've seen, what makes you think there's any chance whatsoever that we could win 3 finals in front of big crowds at the MCG? There's literally no chance with this group, who have proven to be massive chokers.

We're going to need to reload and hope that the next generation that come through have some bottle.

This. Genuinely think our window is done for now and it’s the Rivers, Bowey, McVee, Petty, JVR era that will be our next successful one

Max and May only have one more peak year and we are getting rid of our replacement AA ruckman and need to clear out 8-10 of the mid range or we will be going backwards fast. 

[SaberFang 7,151]

The first team under the current finals system to lose in straight sets in back-to-back seasons.

Melbourne break another record! Woohoo!

 

 

[ElDiablo14 5,036]

1 minute ago, spalding said:

How about petty and jvr in the forward line. It will make a massive difference.

my view was that a lot of things conspired against us in the last weeks of 2022 and 2023. If you would prefer to see us as chokers then fine. We will find out who is right over the coming years.

 

I am just trying to avoid us becoming a supporter base that find excuses for everything.

As others have noted, many teams have maged to reach PF, GF and even win it all with injury issues.

[Pirlo 813]

This team deserves no excuses made for them. Unable to execute under pressure.

[DeeSpencer 26,269]

3 minutes ago, Billy said:

Club should be ashamed of themselves the way they treated Hibberd, heart & soul player & they played Shcache, the softest sub ever

Our ruck and only key forward (and best goal kicker) were likely to fall apart at any given moment.

Hard to blame them for keeping tall insurance 

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084]

10 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

How do you manage 9.17 on one of the nicest September nights you’ll ever possibly get.

Serial chokers

[dees189227 12,453]

How was Saad not pinned for deliberate out of bounds when it was no different to petracca.

Anyway at least the storm won

[gs77 4,516]

19 minutes ago, Billy said:

No it wasn’t we couldn’t even bloody go!!!!

Boo hoo.

[Deemolition2021 16]

Totally gutted but not surprised.

Some great patches of play and dominance, with an inability to take our chances … and also a few really questionable decisions and some basic skill deficiencies at key moments.

As an interstate supporter, I really feel for those of us in Melbourne these two years past … to see us okay finals and to see us in straight sets exits two years running.

I’m over footy for a bit I think … 

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[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084]

Was thinking during that last quarter even if we make it through to the prelim we’d have no Pickett anyway 

[Undeeterred 3,127]

2 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

The issue has been with the third defender and forward selections all year.

Why Tomlinson hasn’t played 18-19 games this year is flat out beyond me. Just mind boggling selection all year 

[Go the Biff 3,457]

8 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Expected score is one of the biggest crock of [censored] in the game.

Where was our expected forwards tonight?

1. Agreed 

2. Watching from the grandstand