As much as I love my Demons, and will continue my 25 year premium membership, this decision really tests me.  Can i be a party to a gladiatorial event where young men are severely injured with no repercussion?  My TV eyeballs and my gate fees (let alone my beer money ) should not be voting for or condoning this behaviour.

Gleeson’s direction of the jury was inappropriate and should be the basis of an appeal.

I hope Maynard never gets a premiership medallion, if its not us, then go Lions!

 

59 minutes ago, Emerald said:

I know our cheer squad comes up with ingenious ways of putting off opposition players kicking at goal. Maybe they can all bring frisbees and wave them around next time we play Collingwood.

 

I see what you did there Emerald. Suitable in more ways than Maynard being a human frisbee. Pretty sure a few years ago Jeremy Howe had a mystery injury that he attributed to playing frisbee with his dog. I like the idea, frisbees hurt more than marshmallows.

4 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

As much as I love my Demons, and will continue my 25 year premium membership, this decision really tests me.  Can i be a party to a gladiatorial event where young men are severely injured with no repercussion?  My TV eyeballs and my gate fees (let alone my beer money ) should not be voting for or condoning this behaviour.

Gleeson’s direction of the jury was inappropriate and should be the basis of an appeal.

I hope Maynard never gets a premiership medallion, if its not us, then go Lions!

 

 

4 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

As much as I love my Demons, and will continue my 25 year premium membership, this decision really tests me.  Can i be a party to a gladiatorial event where young men are severely injured with no repercussion?  My TV eyeballs and my gate fees (let alone my beer money ) should not be voting for or condoning this behaviour.

Gleeson’s direction of the jury was inappropriate and should be the basis of an appeal.

I hope Maynard never gets a premiership medallion, if its not us, then go Lions!

 

Great post. I'm around the same mark and will continue my support while thumbing my nose at the AFL. 

17 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

 

When we come to consider the rough conduct (high bumps) provision, it was fairly and appropriately acknowledged by Woods (AFL) that, in order for us to find that this was a bump, there needed to be a voluntary bump, not a bumping into someone, but a bumping of an opponent.

Gleeson!!! Gleeson's instructions to his tribunal members to assess whether it was a “voluntary” bump!!!   
Wtf. That’s false.

Why ask to confirm a voluntary bump!!!! It’s careless.  There was a duty of care not to make forceful contact.  What in the hell happened to “careless” !!!

Note Gleeson comments re the Lynch -Keath incident. 

Tom Lynch managed to have a ban overturned at the Tribunal earlier this season for an incident that left Alex Keath concussed, with parts of the reasons provided there likely to be relied upon by the Pies.

While there are marked differences between that case and this one, key lines that would jump out to the Pies are these from Tribunal chairperson Jeff Gleeson: “All flight can be misjudged and leaps mistimed.” 

“It is not careless for a player to do no more than brace for contact in those circumstances.”

35 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

Might be time to let this go and concentrate on Friday night. But I do have another point. The line about Gus should have changed direction, are you not taught that you must follow though when you kick or the ball will go in a different line. 

Couple more hours YOTD I promise. 

With you 100% Anyone who’s been on a trampoline knows you can twist at the last moment when you’re about to crash onto the side.

Just can’t believe the tribunal doesn’t understand the public’s horror at such head high acts. A football act … what rubbish !!!

1 minute ago, buck_nekkid said:

As much as I love my Demons, and will continue my 25 year premium membership, this decision really tests me.  Can i be a party to a gladiatorial event where young men are severely injured with no repercussion?  My TV eyeballs and my gate fees (let alone my beer money ) should not be voting for or condoning this behaviour.

Gleeson’s direction of the jury was inappropriate and should be the basis of an appeal.

I hope Maynard never gets a premiership medallion, if its not us, then go Lions!

 

It is a difficult moment for me too buck, particularly with a young grandson who already follows the Dees. We have to remain optimistic change will come. Unfortunately the AFL are reactionary and in this case Pies reaction is greater than ours. 
The AFL support every good and feel good cause around. I wonder what the Elder the AFL invited to do the welcome to country made of the hit? 

Brayshaw should sue Maynard for lost earning if he retires.

2 minutes ago, Handlebarz said:

With you 100% Anyone who’s been on a trampoline knows you can twist at the last moment when you’re about to crash onto the side.

Just can’t believe the tribunal doesn’t understand the public’s horror at such head high acts. A football act … what rubbish !!!

Spot on and especially when two are on the trampoline. You reach out grap the other

I'd like the lawyers on DL to grade Woods' performance.. 

12 hours ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

What would Little Timmy have to say about it @old55?

I think Timmy said his dad and his uncle had been very busy because they to go around to Mr.Gleeson's place and show him how to light the fire in case it was needed. They had to stop at the petrol station on the way. Mr. Gleeson told them the fire wouldn't be needed.

33 minutes ago, Gunna’s said:

Anyone know if the umpires have been hung dried and quartered for allowing play to go on whilst a player was unconscious on the ground?

Lucky Fritta kicked the goal but what if he shanked it like his last shot on goal the ball was ‘live’? 
 

The AFL is inept in all areas. 

Lucky we lost the game. Now that we all know Maynard did nothing wrong, could you imagine the outcry that the free and subsequent goal shouldn't have been paid. The AFL would probably have the result overturned if the margin was under a goal.

I'd sacrifice my left nut for GWS to make the GF. 

If this verdict doesn't get the fellas up and going then we are gutless

Come out on Friday and annihilate Carlton then the Lions in Brissy 

GF at the G against the Giants awaits LOL

6 minutes ago, layzie said:

I'd like the lawyers on DL to grade Woods' performance.. 

Now you want us to get sued.

Would say kindly it wasn’t his finest hour.

As to Gleeson no comment.

1 minute ago, doc roet said:

Lucky we lost the game. Now that we all know Maynard did nothing wrong, could you imagine the outcry that the free and subsequent goal shouldn't have been paid. The AFL would probably have the result overturned if the margin was under a goal.

It should have actually been a free to Collingwood because Brayshaw didn't jump out of the way after he kicked it

So how much interest do people have in footy after this shameful debacle?

Ill admit I'd still like to watch all finals, so my love for the game isn't gone despite not watching since Thursday. I guess we're back to hate-watching the Pies to see if they squander their prelim again. And Either barracking for us or the Lions to make the GF. Coll v Carlton might be a no-watch, but having said that, there are players like Docherty, Weidering, Walsh that I don't mind. So id go for them. 

But by golly I'm done with radio, podcasts, tv shows and all that fluff. Feel a little more clear headed having avoided all that this week. (besides DL pod)

What a bunch of mediocre minds.

As for the regular season next year, only dees games I think. Ridiculous sport to allow such careless and dangerous actions and I won't condone it with my eyeballs 

Edited September 12, 20231 yr by John Demonic

Too angry so got F all sleep last night. Now I’m tired and still angry. Still can’t get over the fact they put some of the blame on Brayshaw.  I assume this is just to cover their [censored] in any future legal case.  
Just like if two cars crash into each other.  The insurance company representing the guilty party will try to put some blame and therefore liability on the other party. 
Can be the only explanation I can think of for them say Gus could of “executed the kick differently, or landed in a different spot or manner”

I query why Andrew didn't run the "he chose to bump" argument, at least in the alternative ....

Sorry, haven't read the whole thread. Worn out and angry. Any suggestions what we do now, to encourage an appeal? Could our club be doing more to encourage it? That cowardly thug could well have cost us the game, not to mention a premiership (I say cowardly very deliberately. Launching his shoulder into the head of a guy with a history of concussion when his victim was totally exposed and focusing on playing football, as opposed to assaulting people) .

(I know an appeal is unlikely, and a successful appeal even less likely, but at least it might be a nuisance to The Filth)

God, this is infuriating. We had a very small window of opportunity to win a flag and it's passing. We were blessed with a great centre group, led by Max, but I presume they're all getting over the hump now. Dammit. Fifty year supporter, twenty-five year member, and I still haven't seen a bloody premiership (though watching it on telly was pretty good - Imagine seeing one live)  

13 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

I'd sacrifice my left nut for GWS to make the GF. 

I dont normally bet but i just put $20 on that outcome

The real story here is that the AFL just seemingly oked a shoulder two head knock that resulted in a serious concussion because the player had his arms in the air.

Lawyers thinking about taking on future AFL concussion litigation will be salivating. 

Any one can see Gleeson's point was not even relevant but it was a farse from the start.

2 minutes ago, John Demonic said:

So how much interest do people have in footy after this shameful debacle?

Ill admit I'd still like to watch all finals, so my love for the game isn't gone despite not watching since Thursday. I guess we're back to hate-watching the Pies to see if they squander their prelim again. And Either barracking for us or the Lions to make the GF. Coll v Carlton might be a no-watch, but having said that, there are players like Docherty, Weidering, Walsh that I don't mind. So id go for them. 

But by golly I'm done with radio, podcasts, tv shows and all that fluff. What a bunch of mediocre minds.

 

 

Yes, they're incredible. Taylor, Buckley, Cornes etc. Dumb as, the lot of them. Lloyd is the one I look at it in genuine astonishment. Was a good forward, but my god, this guy gets a gig on a major TV program?  Using his mouth? Has absolutely zero intelligence, wit, repartee, charisma, just stares at the camera like a wombat in the headlights then mumbles some inanity. And they get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for this? Jesus. My wife is an ED nurse who worked right through the pandemic and earns about a fifth of what these buffoons get.   

Turned into an episode of a courtroom drama, the expensive lawyers and case building and experts etc. just won the day in court.  

AFL needed their own experts to rebut the pies experts.  

Bit of a sad joke this whole process and outcome, what a shame, guess it's open season on running towards someone and smashing them into oblivion so long as you're trying to smother and can make it look like a footy act.  The AFL has undone a lot of the hard work they did this year with this outcome.