I think whatever happens we just need to have faith in Jason Taylor and the MFC recruiting team. 🙏

The most important thing is getting more super football talent who are elite kicks and excellent decision makers into our side.

On 7/28/2023 at 12:10 PM, Demon Disciple said:

I see that Gresham is a FA this year and has been dropped by Lyon this week. 

Should we go after him and if the Saints counter-offer, try and trade for him with our first rounder this year (not the Freo pick)?

Hoyne on SEN was warning clubs against paying too high a price, saying he'd been a 300th+ ranked player since r8, 120th in  beginning. Called him 5th least impactful with ball in hand: "Ball use is really poor"

Pick in the late 20s early 30s at best, given his drop off and the Saints dropping him.

Maybe work Grundy into a 3club swap. 

Ben McKay was mentioned too on the segment as not worth the price tag 

Edited July 30, 20231 yr by John Demonic

On 7/31/2023 at 2:05 AM, John Demonic said:

Hoyne on SEN was warning clubs against paying too high a price, saying he'd been a 300th+ ranked player since r8, 120th in  beginning. Called him 5th least impactful with ball in hand: "Ball use is really poor"

Pick in the late 20s early 30s at best, given his drop off and the Saints dropping him.

Maybe work Grundy into a 3club swap. 

Ben McKay was mentioned too on the segment as not worth the price tag 

Pick in the 20s? He’s a free agent mate!

1 hour ago, Mach5 said:

Pick in the 20s? He’s a free agent mate!

Restricted free agent, I think Demon Disciple was saying if they match the contract offer and then we have to pay up. Definitely not worth a first round pick that I was replying to. 

Edited August 2, 20231 yr by John Demonic

On 7/31/2023 at 2:05 AM, John Demonic said:

Hoyne on SEN was warning clubs against paying too high a price, saying he'd been a 300th+ ranked player since r8, 120th in  beginning. Called him 5th least impactful with ball in hand: "Ball use is really poor"

Pick in the late 20s early 30s at best, given his drop off and the Saints dropping him.

Maybe work Grundy into a 3club swap. 

Ben McKay was mentioned too on the segment as not worth the price tag 

There is good mail that Gresh will be joining Carlton 

21 minutes ago, MrFreeze said:

There is good mail that Gresh will be joining Carlton 

Fits the mould. High talent, injured often..

On 7/28/2023 at 2:55 PM, Rab D Nesbitt said:

LOL. In what parallel universe are our players falling over each other to sign for West Coast because of our player welfare? 

Wessonstraya mate. 

Himmelberg’s decisions helps us considerably - 1 less compensation pick to worry about, that surely would have been a first rounder.

My mail from inside North is that they don’t know what they’ll get, but don’t expect a first round compo pick for McKay. If he goes to Essendon it’s not for the big bucks it would take to get into that compo band.

10 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

Himmelberg’s decisions helps us considerably - 1 less compensation pick to worry about, that surely would have been a first rounder.

My mail from inside North is that they don’t know what they’ll get, but don’t expect a first round compo pick for McKay. If he goes to Essendon it’s not for the big bucks it would take to get into that compo band.

Great news for our pick 1 chances if true - although likely opens the door for them to receive Sanders 

13 minutes ago, demoncat said:

Great news for our pick 1 chances if true - although likely opens the door for them to receive Sanders 

I won’t care if we get pick 1. A lot of water to go under the bridge.

3 hours ago, MrFreeze said:

There is good mail that Gresh will be joining Carlton 

I would have thought that they are one club that don’t need him with Motlop, Owies, Durdin, Cunningham, Fogarty etc.

52 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

Himmelberg’s decisions helps us considerably - 1 less compensation pick to worry about, that surely would have been a first rounder.

My mail from inside North is that they don’t know what they’ll get, but don’t expect a first round compo pick for McKay. If he goes to Essendon it’s not for the big bucks it would take to get into that compo band.

The AFL will probably give them an end of 1st round but give them access to Sanders, so essentially they get two top 10 picks anyway.

Word I am hearing is the Saints will make a play for Grundy so Marshall can spend more time forward. They want to send Gresham to us as part of the trade.

6 minutes ago, Want a Flag said:

Word I am hearing is the Saints will make a play for Grundy so Marshall can spend more time forward. They want to send Gresham to us as part of the trade.

Gresham is a free agent tho 

43 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

I won’t care if we get pick 1. A lot of water to go under the bridge.

Fair enough regarding pick 1 but surely pushing up the draft order in what will be a highly compromised draft can only be good for us? There could be 4 top 10 talents all taken via NGAs if Sanders is included and I would personally like to see us get up as high as possible to our picks don’t get diluted 

Edited August 3, 20231 yr by demoncat

On 7/28/2023 at 7:10 PM, Demon Disciple said:

I see that Gresham is a FA this year and has been dropped by Lyon this week. 

Should we go after him and if the Saints counter-offer, try and trade for him with our first rounder this year (not the Freo pick)?

No.

24 minutes ago, DistrACTION Jackson said:

The AFL will probably give them an end of 1st round but give them access to Sanders, so essentially they get two top 10 picks anyway.

it's all guess work at this stage, but i'll go the opposite - they won't given them free access to sanders but they will give them access to a high end compo pick for mckay

Just now, whatwhat say what said:

it's all guess work at this stage, but i'll go the opposite - they won't given them free access to sanders but they will give them access to a high end compo pick for mckay

Makes more sense. At least it’s within their own framework. A freak occurrence of backtracking on their new-ish NGA rule doesn’t make much sense.

23 minutes ago, adonski said:

Gresham is a free agent tho 

Yes you are correct. I was careless in typing. They believe Gresham will end up at Melbourne as part of the whole wash up. How they come to that conclusion I don't know.

However I think them wanting Grundy makes sense from their point of view.

21 minutes ago, Want a Flag said:

Yes you are correct. I was careless in typing. They believe Gresham will end up at Melbourne as part of the whole wash up. How they come to that conclusion I don't know.

However I think them wanting Grundy makes sense from their point of view.

Many commentators have claimed knowledge of Grundy going to Port Adelaide.

Wasn't he from SA originally?

37 minutes ago, Want a Flag said:

Yes you are correct. I was careless in typing. They believe Gresham will end up at Melbourne as part of the whole wash up. How they come to that conclusion I don't know.

However I think them wanting Grundy makes sense from their point of view.

Interesting news if true.

I'm a big Gresham fan and truly believe his development has been stunted due to St Kilda's poor development over the years.

His numbers as a midfield forward certainly stacks up well and could add some genuine X factor to our side.

1 hour ago, Want a Flag said:

Word I am hearing is the Saints will make a play for Grundy so Marshall can spend more time forward. They want to send Gresham to us as part of the trade.

Good luck to them. Didn’t we just prove ruckman cannot become forwards? Rowan and King in their forward line is great on paper but is a massive risk.

Happily take their 2nd round pick to make a play for GCS Pick 5.

 

44 minutes ago, Want a Flag said:

Yes you are correct. I was careless in typing. They believe Gresham will end up at Melbourne as part of the whole wash up. How they come to that conclusion I don't know.

However I think them wanting Grundy makes sense from their point of view.

Gresham is a free agent, isn’t he?

54 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

it's all guess work at this stage, but i'll go the opposite - they won't given them free access to sanders but they will give them access to a high end compo pick for mckay

I'm fine with that personally, given we got the same thing for Frawley (though I think he was a better player than McKay).

If they give them both I will not be happy and I'd definitely be open to taking Sanders out our first pick if he's available.

2 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Gresham is a free agent, isn’t he?

Yeah he is.

I've always liked him as a player and find it surprising he has one of the lowest DE in the comp.

He's always seemed like a neat user to me.