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Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but the DeeBrief podcast has just done an interview with Aden Yze - I think it’s only on the Premium version. He was pretty candid with his info - some of the key take outs:

- They definitely had a loading period over the past few rounds, with Yze likening it to a mini pre-season. He said they had targeted the consecutive 10 day breaks to put the load into players.

- They are going to play Trac almost exclusively in the forward line, with Brayshaw coming up to midfield. He said that they trust Viney and Brayshaw to lead the midfield. They will also give Kozzie some centre bounces to get his hands on the ball. Apparently Kozzie had been sick after Alice Springs and so had not trained fully up to the Saints game. He was also tagged heavily during last week’s game.

- The aim is to finish Top 4 every year, whilst we have this list. He described it as having a chance to knock on the door and whatever happens after that, happens. He explained that this was a theme that Clarko used at the Hawks. Yze also said that he thinks our finals series of 2021 was unbelievable and doubts whether it will ever be repeated (as in the total dominance of our opponents).

- He also made mention of the fitness and medical team, saying that they are fantastic. He used the example of Salem being able to return to AFL level without having to come back through Casey.

 

 

No place for Yze spin here please. We all know:

loading only exists in Binmans head

kozzie is not interested since signing his contract 

Goodwin poor coaching and tactics are the only thing holding this team back from playing like the 2021 prelim and grand final every week 

hawthorn were on top of the latter for about 4 straight years and didn’t lose a game 

 

 
  On 13/07/2023 at 06:36, 3183 Dee said:

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but the DeeBrief podcast has just done an interview with Aden Yze - I think it’s only on the Premium version. He was pretty candid with his info - some of the key take outs:

- They definitely had a loading period over the past few rounds, with Yze likening it to a mini pre-season. He said they had targeted the consecutive 10 day breaks to put the load into players.

- They are going to play Trac almost exclusively in the forward line, with Brayshaw coming up to midfield. He said that they trust Viney and Brayshaw to lead the midfield. They will also give Kozzie some centre bounces to get his hands on the ball. Apparently Kozzie had been sick after Alice Springs and so had not trained fully up to the Saints game. He was also tagged heavily during last week’s game.

- The aim is to finish Top 4 every year, whilst we have this list. He described it as having a chance to knock on the door and whatever happens after that, happens. He explained that this was a theme that Clarko used at the Hawks. Yze also said that he thinks our finals series of 2021 was unbelievable and doubts whether it will ever be repeated (as in the total dominance of our opponents).

- He also made mention of the fitness and medical team, saying that they are fantastic. He used the example of Salem being able to return to AFL level without having to come back through Casey.

 

Great Intel. Thanks for posting.

Strange, I'd never thought about our premiership as being some kind of rare level of dominance, just as 'our premiership'.

But margins of 33, 83 and 74 are pretty phenomenal when you reflect on it.

Having said that, my search for comparisons was pretty quick, with the Geelong berserker rage event in 2022! They also provided another case way back in 2007 when they obliterated North and Port either side of scraping home over Collingwood. Magpies had a very good run in 2010 except for the draw. Brisbane dominated the qualifying and preliminary finals in 2002, but only got through the grand final by a kick.

So the list of really powerhouse finals campaigns is basically the 2021 Demons, the absurd Bombers of 2000, and Geelong's golden era bookends in 2007 and 2022.

Amazing to think that is the historical company we belong in.


  On 13/07/2023 at 08:01, Great Sage said:

Absolutely love the Deebrief Pods each week. Well worth a listen.

Just wish some of the co-hosts weren't so disrespectful to some fringe players. They are a passionate bunch 🍺 :laugh: 

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  On 13/07/2023 at 08:01, Great Sage said:

Absolutely love the Deebrief Pods each week. Well worth a listen.

I agree - and also love the @Demonland podcast for a more in depth look. It would be fun to hear some “cross pod” action: I think Naughtsie was once on the Demonland pod to talk about his Merger podcast, but how about @binman on the DeeBrief for a show?!

  On 13/07/2023 at 11:30, 3183 Dee said:

I agree - and also love the @Demonland podcast for a more in depth look. It would be fun to hear some “cross pod” action: I think Naughtsie was once on the Demonland pod to talk about his Merger podcast, but how about @binman on the DeeBrief for a show?!

The Demonland Podcast might be able to accommodate Naughtsie for a segment, but the Deebrief certainly isn't long enough to accommodate @binman!

 
  On 13/07/2023 at 09:47, Little Goffy said:

Strange, I'd never thought about our premiership as being some kind of rare level of dominance, just as 'our premiership'.

But margins of 33, 83 and 74 are pretty phenomenal when you reflect on it.

Having said that, my search for comparisons was pretty quick, with the Geelong berserker rage event in 2022! They also provided another case way back in 2007 when they obliterated North and Port either side of scraping home over Collingwood. Magpies had a very good run in 2010 except for the draw. Brisbane dominated the qualifying and preliminary finals in 2002, but only got through the grand final by a kick.

So the list of really powerhouse finals campaigns is basically the 2021 Demons, the absurd Bombers of 2000, and Geelong's golden era bookends in 2007 and 2022.

Amazing to think that is the historical company we belong in.

Not a premiership year Little G but in our first two finals of 1987 we won by 118 and 76 points. 


  On 13/07/2023 at 06:36, 3183 Dee said:

Not sure if this has already been mentioned, but the DeeBrief podcast has just done an interview with Aden Yze - I think it’s only on the Premium version. He was pretty candid with his info - some of the key take outs:

- They definitely had a loading period over the past few rounds, with Yze likening it to a mini pre-season. He said they had targeted the consecutive 10 day breaks to put the load into players.

- They are going to play Trac almost exclusively in the forward line, with Brayshaw coming up to midfield. He said that they trust Viney and Brayshaw to lead the midfield. They will also give Kozzie some centre bounces to get his hands on the ball. Apparently Kozzie had been sick after Alice Springs and so had not trained fully up to the Saints game. He was also tagged heavily during last week’s game.

- The aim is to finish Top 4 every year, whilst we have this list. He described it as having a chance to knock on the door and whatever happens after that, happens. He explained that this was a theme that Clarko used at the Hawks. Yze also said that he thinks our finals series of 2021 was unbelievable and doubts whether it will ever be repeated (as in the total dominance of our opponents).

- He also made mention of the fitness and medical team, saying that they are fantastic. He used the example of Salem being able to return to AFL level without having to come back through Casey.

 

Guess it would depend on when the pod was done, but was the GC coaching job bought up?

Deebrief is talking to mates at the pub about our favourite players ✔️

Demonland pod is the weekly visit to my therapist ✔️

I am grateful to both for the balance they provide my life

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  On 13/07/2023 at 13:22, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Guess it would depend on when the pod was done, but was the GC coaching job bought up?

No - nothing was said: I guess the pod would have been done earlier this week.

  On 13/07/2023 at 08:23, spalding said:

No place for Yze spin here please. We all know:

loading only exists in Binmans head

kozzie is not interested since signing his contract 

Goodwin poor coaching and tactics are the only thing holding this team back from playing like the 2021 prelim and grand final every week 

hawthorn were on top of the latter for about 4 straight years and didn’t lose a game 

 

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thanks Earl


  On 13/07/2023 at 09:47, Little Goffy said:

Strange, I'd never thought about our premiership as being some kind of rare level of dominance, just as 'our premiership'.

But margins of 33, 83 and 74 are pretty phenomenal when you reflect on it.

Having said that, my search for comparisons was pretty quick, with the Geelong berserker rage event in 2022! They also provided another case way back in 2007 when they obliterated North and Port either side of scraping home over Collingwood. Magpies had a very good run in 2010 except for the draw. Brisbane dominated the qualifying and preliminary finals in 2002, but only got through the grand final by a kick.

So the list of really powerhouse finals campaigns is basically the 2021 Demons, the absurd Bombers of 2000, and Geelong's golden era bookends in 2007 and 2022.

Amazing to think that is the historical company we belong in.

You can scrub geelong 07 off that list of dominant finalists as they got up by a kick against coll in a prelim.

  On 13/07/2023 at 14:22, dee-tox said:

That accounts for one poor game I guess...

Agree. What’s the story behind the rest of the year?

Even more fascinating is that he was sick and had extremely high TOG 

  On 13/07/2023 at 11:35, deanox said:

The Demonland Podcast might be able to accommodate Naughtsie for a segment, but the Deebrief certainly isn't long enough to accommodate @binman!

Binman is talking quantum physics type analysis whilst the Deebrief is dealing in algebra.

Big fan of both styles of podcast!

A Deebrief thread on Demonland... Like the Multiverse of madness 🤯


  On 13/07/2023 at 23:54, Doug Reemer said:

Binman is talking quantum physics type analysis whilst the Deebrief is dealing in algebra.

Big fan of both styles of podcast!

Like playing 3D chess

  On 13/07/2023 at 09:47, Little Goffy said:

Strange, I'd never thought about our premiership as being some kind of rare level of dominance, just as 'our premiership'.

But margins of 33, 83 and 74 are pretty phenomenal when you reflect on it.

Having said that, my search for comparisons was pretty quick, with the Geelong berserker rage event in 2022! They also provided another case way back in 2007 when they obliterated North and Port either side of scraping home over Collingwood. Magpies had a very good run in 2010 except for the draw. Brisbane dominated the qualifying and preliminary finals in 2002, but only got through the grand final by a kick.

So the list of really powerhouse finals campaigns is basically the 2021 Demons, the absurd Bombers of 2000, and Geelong's golden era bookends in 2007 and 2022.

Amazing to think that is the historical company we belong in.

In hindsight we were utterly dominant I'm 2021. Smashed the finals. 8 out of 9 against the rest of the top 5. 

Geelong were also very dominant last year, however, they did have a close final against the Pies in week 1. On the other hand, they were even more dominant in their actual GF win.

  On 14/07/2023 at 00:07, Kozzie4PM said:

In hindsight we were utterly dominant I'm 2021. Smashed the finals. 8 out of 9 against the rest of the top 5. 

Geelong were also very dominant last year, however, they did have a close final against the Pies in week 1. On the other hand, they were even more dominant in their actual GF win.

Sydney had definitely played their GF the prior week, didn’t have anything in the tank!

 
  On 14/07/2023 at 00:18, D4Life said:

Sydney had definitely played their GF the prior week, didn’t have anything in the tank!

Seems like they're still knackered from that prelim 😂

  On 14/07/2023 at 00:07, Kozzie4PM said:

In hindsight we were utterly dominant I'm 2021. Smashed the finals. 8 out of 9 against the rest of the top 5. 

Geelong were also very dominant last year, however, they did have a close final against the Pies in week 1. On the other hand, they were even more dominant in their actual GF win.

In terms of margins, our finals series in 2021 is the most dominant finals series since Essendon 2000, and it's roughly on par with that (3 points less on average). Statistically it will be decades before we see a team as dominant as we were in finals. Geelong were good last year, but fell over the line against the Pies by a kick and were a level below us (16 points less on average). With that in mind, we should appreciate how insanely brilliant our 2021 finals series was and likelihood says no team, let alone us again, will repeat it anytime soon.

We'll always have 2021!


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