POSTGAME: Rd 13 vs Collingwood

[Colm 2,204]

Anybody know where I can watch Goodys post game presser? 

[beelzebub 23,392]

35 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Not sure if it’s just a coincidence but, 

Rd 3 I flew down and we won.

Rd 6 I flew down and we won.

Rd 13 I flew down and we won.

A pattern is emerging….

 

Keep flying.... 

[david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084]

Showing big Cox where the bench is?

[praha 11,267]

36 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Seriously how is he even running given he almost lost his leg and was discharged from hospital over the weekend? 
 

I was hearing that Geelong was even potentially even in doubt at one stage.

 

Also @WalkingCivilWar what was the secret thing the guys were training? The only really difference I noticed was the high press on the ball carrier. 
 

There was a bit more corridor usage today but nothing anomalous. 

He was discharged from hospital after treatment for an infected blister, not a caesarean. 

[Wodjathefirst 2,671]

3 hours ago, chook fowler said:

Like Tomlinson down back - is very reliable and good for Levers game. 

Tomlinson, much maligned player on this forum for some time. 
I am just so pleased for him right now

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,825]

37 minutes ago, A F said:

You beaut, juicy fruit!

Just about the perfect result, because we haven't completely shown our hand. What do I mean by that? We have a few more gears to go to yet IMO. Not only if we kick straight do we win by 8+ goals, but if we moved the ball quicker still, we'd be getting out the back against them more often. This ball movement is still not totally instinctive and it robs us of points. I'm hoping we can use the back half of the season to fine tune that and find that killer instinct with ball movement.

As for our defensive system, it completely strangled and panicked Collingwood after half time. There was a heap of inferred pressure and Collingwood skill errors, fumbles etc as the game wore on and I thought in the 3rd, we lifted our intensity around the ball and pressure rating even more. I'd love to know what our pressure rating in the 3rd was.

Loved that we started manning up the spare (often Daicos) in the last quarter. Will watch the replay tonight, but I don't think we started 1v1 at all stoppages until last quarter. We essentially let them have +1 at contest and sat our +1 a 20m kick behind play, so mostly just in front of the next 1v1.

That very first goal of the match was textbook Collingwood though and we failed to get the job done there defensively. Daicos kicks out. Kicks short, gets the handball receive, hits a target on defensive wing and bang, it's up the other end for a goal. But after the first 15 minutes, we settled and tidied up across our half forwardline, and we no longer allowed that ease of ball movement from back to centre wing. 

One of Viney's best games ever. For a guy whose disposal I often lament, I thought he was A+++ today. He was clean, tough and showed excellent disposal all day. One of his greatest games IMO.

Despite what I just read in the match day thread, I thought our tall forwards were excellent. Max played his best game for the season. He, along with JVR, Smith and at times Grundy, were brilliant at bringing the ball to ground (often against -2 or in Max's case -3). Our small forwards applied great pressure, but struggled with their cleanness, which cost us further scoring opportunities. That Quaynor is a bloody good player 1v1 and he saved them 3 or 4 goals. So the next time we meet them, either his opponent (likely Kozzy) has to get the job done or we avoid kicking it near he and Moore.

As the game wore on though, our forward and midfield pressure pushed them wider and wider and they couldn't handle our press. They dump kicked into the corridor a number of times, and gave us great looks on turnover. We need to utilise those opportunities better next time.

Our defenders held up really well. After giving up 2 early goals, May played a superb half of football, and then started to drop simple uncontested marks again, that opened the door for them. But I thought Tomlinson was really good, McVee is a beauty, love his composure and ball use. Salem is back to his elite 2021 form. He's found his feet quickly this season, and his cleanness and disposal makes our backline soooooooo much better.

I've been really impressed with our midfield the last two weeks, minus the best contested player in the game. If you'd said earlier in the year that we'd beat Collingwood without Clarry, I'd have been rubbing my hands together. But Petracca stepped up last week, Viney this week and Sparrow is giving them superb back up, loving his season. Despite his iffy disposal, I thought Rivers was decent too, moving inside more and took some important intercept marks too.

Overall, we've shown that we can suffocate their ball movement and turn the ball over in the corridor, as well as force them wide. Kick straighter and we're looking at 15+ goals, and I'd say from where we want to (and can) get to, we were running out about a 6 or 7 out of 10.

It will be interesting to see what the competition learns from Goody today.

We left a lot of points out there today AF no doubt, but what about our some of our final entries that missed target inside F50.

Great win for the Players, Coaches and Supporters today.

Alot to improve on going forward, continued continuity will ultimately improve our connection and end product.

[Adam The God 30,734]

3 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Well, Goodwin definitely out-couched McCrae both tactically and with the emotional momentum.

(ducks for cover)

Don't you mean all ducks, no dinners?

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

17 minutes ago, Wodjathefirst said:

I am always nervous about Melbourne crowds (size and noise wise). I am also aware that on this forum there is a bit of a ‘us’ and ‘them’ views on this matter (other view being, that is just us we are quiet and refined etc).

After hearing Goody’s press conference I am so much more convinced that the team really are hanging out big time for buy in from our supporters in terms of fronting up and making NOISE! (He / they appreciated the pick up of both this game).

So….I repeat once again (for those of us that can), keep turning up on game day, get behind our boys and be LOUD.  That simply is the most tangible way we can actually help our lads on game day. GO DEES!!!

I missed out today unfortunately but what was the balance of supporters? It felt like we were there with some numbers as the noise from the Pies supporters wasn’t as loud as I thought it would be on tv. 

Edited June 12, 2023 by Gawndy the Great

[Roost it far 10,137]

1 hour ago, Green Demon said:

BT drove me crazy. It reminded me of a Socceroos or Wallabies game, where the Aussie commentators know they can be parochial because 99% of the viewers are Aussies. This is not the case for an AFL game. I am sure many neutral supporters would have felt the same.

If you don’t want to listen to BT get yourselves to the game……if you can

[KLV 1,768]

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

David King before the game said Dees no chance and Pies will win, now after the game said he said all along Pies were ripe for the picking.

Does he listen to what he says?

That’s his gig and no one ever calls him on it, so he continues each week to blather out contradictory views. He’s a joke 

[rolling fog 1,208]

16 minutes ago, david_neitz_is_my_dad said:

Showing big Cox where the bench is?

Cox can jog off back to his wry Twitter observations and podcast - he’s not up to carrying Trac’s bags 

Edited June 12, 2023 by rolling fog

[demon3165 2,865]

13 minutes ago, praha said:

He was discharged from hospital after treatment for an infected blister, not a caesarean. 

My wife saw him coming out of Cabrini hospital Sunday afternoon.

[Adam The God 30,734]

3 hours ago, dees189227 said:

I suggest we use the bye week to practice our goal kicking 

I suggest we try and have a little bit of a mental break. If you chart our kicking inaccuracy from being the most accurate in the league to Carltonesque, it's very clearly a fatigue thing.

So I know you're being flippant, but this is the last thing they should be doing in a shortened bye.

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,825]

22 minutes ago, Colm said:

Anybody know where I can watch Goodys post game presser? 

youtube or Melbourne club app.

[Roost it far 10,137]

1 minute ago, KLV said:

That’s his gig and no one ever calls him on it, so he continues each week to blather out contradictory views. He’s a joke 

I find him a parody. He talks as though he has all the answers yet offers one maybe two examples of what a team is supposedly doing, then a week later can simply flip to say the exact opposite. It’s the industry they’re in, get eyes and clicks or get a real job. The analysis on here from binman and a few others is far superior. 

[Jaded No More 68,976]

23 minutes ago, Wodjathefirst said:

I am always nervous about Melbourne crowds (size and noise wise). I am also aware that on this forum there is a bit of a ‘us’ and ‘them’ views on this matter (other view being, that is just us we are quiet and refined etc).

After hearing Goody’s press conference I am so much more convinced that the team really are hanging out big time for buy in from our supporters in terms of fronting up and making NOISE! (He / they appreciated the pick up of both this game).

So….I repeat once again (for those of us that can), keep turning up on game day, get behind our boys and be LOUD.  That simply is the most tangible way we can actually help our lads on game day. GO DEES!!!

I thought for the first time maybe ever, we were louder than the Pies fans. We certainly drowned out the Grundy booing (they truly are a braindead lot!) with cheering. 
 

[DeelightfulPlay 2,723]

26 minutes ago, Colm said:

Anybody know where I can watch Goodys post game presser? 

https://www.afl.com.au/video/949437/full-post-match-r13-demons?videoId=949437&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1686559615001&references=AFL_MATCH%3A4897

For your convenience!

[Wodjathefirst 2,671]

3 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Seems to have the brain capacity to be a Republican. 
Either way he is an average player and an average sportsman. Embarrassing from him. 

As much as I ‘love to hate’ him and that Ginnivan the little free kick seeking twerp I have to give Cox credit where due- he does not like Trump. Big tick from me.

[speed demon 820]

Goodwin receives excessive criticism on here. I hope some of his critics can appreciates today's masterclass. 

[old55 23,861]

3 hours ago, Abyssal said:

Neal-Bullen 

Sorry Dee Zephyr, but no amount of hard running, corralling and ‘trying hard’ would make up for the fumbling, poor disposals, inability to win a ‘one on one’, inability to take a contested mark, as well as being below par for disposals and hitting the scoreboard. 
If he is such a defensive beast why haven’t we seen him in a ‘run with’ role ?

 

3 hours ago, adonski said:

Can't keep carrying ANB in these sorts of games

You mean the guy who gut ran in the last quarter to mark in front of goal and kicked a goal when everyone else was kicking points. That guy?

[Maldonboy38 6,435]

After standing in a train for 2 hours all the way home to Bendigo (thanks VLine for your usual scheduling disaster following footy matches) it is good to sit and read the wonderful gloating here on DL. And yes, we deserve to gloat. Feeling very good after that win. Huge crowd, Freeze MND, a reduction in betting advertising, foul coffee, and spent 3 quarters listening to Pies supporters around me (outnumbered by Dees supporters abou 4:1 in my section) whinging and moaning. 

Dees by far the better team, beat the Pies all over the ground. And even when they got that fast outnumbered play mobilized down the wing, they hit our backline like a concrete slab. Brilliant coaching by making Moore, and 2 x Daicos accountable. The Pies will NOT win the flag if they don't improve their one-on-one contests. 

Our backline are football gods. Having Salem back to his peak helps. But they annihilated the Pies forwards. 

Hunter and Brayshaw were kicking it to Collingwood in the 1st 15 minutes. Horrible. After that, that is the cleanest we have been around the ball this year. Our handball spread from stoppages, and handball chains down the ground work when we hit our targets. And by foot we were as good 2021. 

Viney (wow, just wow) Trac, Sparrow, Brayshaw were brilliant. 

A really poor showing from Kozzie & Spargo. Chandler not much better but he had a strong last quarter.

I lost my voice after Grundy kicked his goal. A funny Pies supporter behind me yelled out "Traitor - please come back!"

Our goal kicking... I don't know what to type. I couldn't watch our shots on goal in the 2nd half. I put my head in my hands and let the crowd response tell me the result. Just woeful. 

The Joel Smith 'experiment' is a lock for mine. Loved his workrate, his 2nd efforts, and his attack on the ball in the air and on the ground. Not a brilliant individual game, but a strong effective team role. 

Bowey, Petty and Oliver to come back in. If we are refreshed and fit after the bye, the position squeeze is on.

What a great day - Go Dees!

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

1 minute ago, Roost it far said:

I find him a parody. He talks as though he has all the answers yet offers one maybe two examples of what a team is supposedly doing, then a week later can simply flip to say the exact opposite. It’s the industry they’re in, get eyes and clicks or get a real job. The analysis on here from binman and a few others is far superior. 

Even tonight he said that the Pies and Dees are the two favs. I don’t know you can so easily cast out Port.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,468]

2 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

According to some Salem is a softy, i hope those doubters had a very hard look at his game today.

Put your hand up and say sorry to the great man.

Who the hell would call Salem soft? Bloke is as hard as a cats head.

[Ethan Tremblay 31,388]

We brought some physicality back to our game. The Pies couldn’t handle it. 

Edited June 12, 2023 by Ethan Tremblay

[jayceebee31 768]

4 hours ago, adonski said:

Can't keep carrying ANB in these sorts of games

Totally agree, I said this last week.