Monbon 1,840 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned. From what I saw on the television is that Rozee, head down, ran into Hunter who turned side on the protect not only himself, but Rozee. Edited May 23, 2023 by Grapeviney 2 1 Quote
Redleg 42,195 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 No contact to the head. Stopped and was reaching for the ball. Appeared to brace and didn’t use elbow, forearm or shoulder. No injury. Rozee played on without any treatment and kicked the winning goal in fact. All commentators during and after game said it would be looked at, but should be ok, as he did everything right to protect Rozee as players are being taught. Verdict, life imprisonment. 6 2 1 12 3 1 Quote
titan_uranus 25,268 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 I think he was reasonably contesting the ball but I suspect he‘ll be given 1-2 weeks (depending on whether the MRO gives him medium or high impact, as to which it’s a random lottery) and we won’t challenge as it’s too hard to overturn. 1 Quote
loges 6,767 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 He stopped going towards the ball Rozee ran into him. 5 1 Quote
david_neitz_is_my_dad 4,084 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 Should not get suspended but will 2 1 Quote
Jaded No More 68,976 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 Will 100% get a week for that. The AFL will say he chose to bump and needed to stand back and let his opponent have a free run at the football. 2 3 4 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,895 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 In a post JVR ruling world I reckon he’s looking at a fortnight off 1 1 Quote
Redleg 42,195 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 24 minutes ago, titan_uranus said: I think he was reasonably contesting the ball but I suspect he‘ll be given 1-2 weeks (depending on whether the MRO gives him medium or high impact, as to which it’s a random lottery) and we won’t challenge as it’s too hard to overturn. No head contact or injury, so wonder how you could get to medium or high impact, but I suspect the inconsistent one will. 1 1 Quote
Chook 15,088 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 Players should start getting suspended on both ends of this action IMO. Hunter has an obligation to protect his opponent, and his action can be construed as a bump. But his opponent if he had acted exactly as Hunter did would not have been injured. Therefore suspend them both, as both of them contributed to the injury. This protects the AFL from litigation (I think this is the fundamental reason why they're suspending based on impact more than the action, so they can say "well we suspended the player who caused the injury, what more do you want from us"). It also disincentivises players from acting with reckless disregard for their own well-being, as Rozee did. 3 3 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 39 minutes ago, loges said: He stopped going towards the ball Rozee ran into him. Is as though Rozee had no duty of care ( to himself ) let alone Hunter. 6 Quote
Gawndy the Great 9,011 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 Didn’t Andy Brayshaw get off earlier for a similar incident? 1 Quote
DemonicFinalFantasy 263 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, beelzebub said: Is as though Rozee had no duty of care ( to himself ) let alone Hunter. If Rozee had soccered the ball like Port had been doing most of the night, then it wouldn't have been an issue. So his choice in tapping the ball on (knowing Hunter was headed his way) was a dangerous action (for himself). 4 Quote
titan_uranus 25,268 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, Redleg said: No head contact or injury, so wonder how you could get to medium or high impact, but I suspect the inconsistent one will. He was stunned enough to be low. The “potential for injury” lottery will see it go up to medium/high. 1 Quote
John Crow Batty 8,895 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 Just beware, we are dealing with a scorned Christian here. 3 1 Quote
Little Goffy 14,984 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 Well, it wouldn't be the first time a Demon had been suspended for standing still while someone else ran into them. 8 1 2 Quote
Bitter but optimistic 22,289 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 Hunter seems to have pulled up to me. Not much else he could do except step away ..... and that's just not football. Who knows? We'll just have to wait for the chook lotto draw. 8 2 Quote
chookrat 4,268 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Monbon said: I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned. From what I saw on the television is that Rozee, head down, ran into Hunter who turned side on the protect not only himself, but Rozee. Hunter was practically stationary and in the same motion he turned his body he picked the ball up - there was no separate bump and collect action. It probably shouldn't have even been a free kick as you're allowed to pick the ball up whether another player is contesting or not. The action that would be more worthy of a 1-2 week suspension is Viney's slide which is quite a dangerous action. Edited May 20, 2023 by chookrat 2 Quote
chookrat 4,268 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 19 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said: Hunter seems to have pulled up to me. Not much else he could do except step away ..... and that's just not football. Who knows? We'll just have to wait for the chook lotto draw. The footage makes it look like Hunter was moving towards the ball because the camera is following Rozee. If you follow Hunter relative to the signage painted on the ground he is practically stationary and all he does is turns his body and picks up the ball. Shouldn't have even been a free against in my view. 7 1 Quote
DemonicFinalFantasy 263 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 18.3.2 (k)... bumps or makes forceful contact ... from front-on ... You would have to argue that Hunter was stationary at the time of contact (difficult) despite Rozee's momentum causing the majority of the impact. Unlikely to get off. 1 Quote
monoccular 17,761 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 Remember Christian has been humiliated by Melbourne, who he already hates, so no way will Hunter not be suspended for an action entirely initiated by Rozee. I have mentioned before numerous times, players charging headlong into packs or other players need to be penalised themselves - if not there will be some poor bugger left paralysed and an “innocent bystander” forever condemned just for being there. 5 1 Quote
Tarax Club 4,207 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Demonland said: Port Power = Ken's Kamikazies 1 Quote
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