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POSTGAME: Rd 09 vs Hawthorn

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  On 13/05/2023 at 09:22, Hawny for Gawny said:

Really feel like petty not playing the second half had a bigger impact than I thought it would, doesn't help that the hawks actually decided to stop playing like a U-16 team for 10 mins

What happened to Petty???

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    A few things to work on but a 54 point win when not at your best is a good sign. At least the umpires weren’t a factor either - just 24 frees. 

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      On 13/05/2023 at 09:29, DemonOX said:

    What happened to Petty???

    He hurt his toe. He came back on then subbed out at half time. I hope it’s precautionary. I guess Goody will tell us more. 

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      On 13/05/2023 at 09:23, chook fowler said:

    Clearances remain an issue - can’t understand why given the personnel. Real shame that Petty was subbed out - was looking to be a turning point game for him as a forward. Love what Spargo brings.

     

    We were mostly smacked up in clearances in the third.  Grundy had a 3rd quarter mare imho which handed them the momentum.

    Eventually stopped the rot but only after Max took over the ruck duties in the middle.

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      On 13/05/2023 at 09:27, Demonised said:

    If you offered me a ten goal win before the game I would have taken it.

    We are spoiled that we can complain about a 200% win but it really felt like we should have been pushing closer to a 100 pt flogging we owe the hawks.

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    Just one of those typical games where you take the four points and move on. Hawthorn threw everything at us in the second half but we still ended up with a 9 goal win.

    Our midfielders (Oliver, Petracca and Viney) were easily our best. Rivers was good again too.

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    It was evident today we are being out hunted in the contest. Whilst we dominated, a better side would have punished us more. 

    Port will give us an honest assessment of where we are and we rate against the top 4-6. 

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    JVR taking some great marks and breaking open packs. Once he develops AFL level endurance he's going to be amazing. He's now kicked a goal in everyone of his 7 games ðŸ˜Š

    Regarding centre bounces, I'm confident they set up to get a clean clearance out the front of the stoppage for maximum impact. Teams are working really hard to try to disrupt this at the expense of it being less structured. Around the ground, we are beating teams on turnover and giving up clearance to do this. 

    In 2021 we were a turnover team until Round 20 when we started to score from stoppage, and we saw the effect of that in the PF and GF. I think once we get the centre clearance chemistry right - be it through exposure for the rotating players, or by allowing the big 3 more time there later in the season - teams will have to contend with multi ways we can score against them.

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      On 13/05/2023 at 09:22, Hawny for Gawny said:

    Really feel like petty not playing the second half had a bigger impact than I thought it would, doesn't help that the hawks actually decided to stop playing like a U-16 team for 10 mins

    Imo Petts was having his best game as a forward before injury.  Hopefully just bruising to his foot.  Club saying moon boot is precautionary.

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    Very frustrating watching such a great list of players fumble, make poor choices, handball to team mate's feet, and get beaten at the ground ball game. I simply don't get it.

    Kayo ought to be flogged for the reliability of their product.

    Trac, Oliver and Viney were all immense AND flawed. 

    Rivers and ANB were brilliant in the last quarter.

    Fritsch looks half-hearted too often. 

    If Sparrow and Jordon are fighting for the same place in the 22, tonight's game suggests Jordon gets the chocolates. Sparrow's work rate was good, but his effectiveness and clumsiness were poor. 

    Pushing in the back in marking contests is now legal again. Both teams did it all night.

    Why do I feel so frustrated after a 10 goal win? It might be time to lower my expectations because the last 3 games have done my head in.

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      On 13/05/2023 at 09:29, GBDee said:

    A few things to work on but a 54 point win when not at your best is a good sign. At least the umpires weren’t a factor either - just 24 frees. 

    They were a factor by umpiring very poorly. A stack of missed holding the balls. Poor control of manning the mark. A lot of holding off the ball. Poor positioning.

    Was never going to be 60 frees given it was a lot of kick to kick but they missed a dozen easily. 

    It was a young and inexperienced crew for the worst game of the week doing their best, but not paying free kicks is just as bad as paying wrong ones 

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      On 13/05/2023 at 09:30, Hawny for Gawny said:

    We are spoiled that we can complain about a 200% win but it really felt like we should have been pushing closer to a 100 pt flogging we owe the hawks.

    Was it a 200% win? Isn't that a 100 point win?

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      On 13/05/2023 at 09:34, Maldonboy38 said:

     

    Fritsch looks half-hearted too often. 

     

    He looks injured to me. Kept grabbing his calf. He was off the ground for quite a bit and was in the square more than usual.

    Clearly pushing thru something @WalkingCivilWar isn’t he?

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      On 13/05/2023 at 09:11, adonski said:

    Can't believe I'm going to have to watch Sparrow have 12 touches a week @ 28% efficiency for the next 8 years

    54% actually ðŸ˜‚

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    I stand by my observation on Oliver's changing game - another 5 intercept possessions including a couple of quite important ones from positioning himself in smart places. Also continues to build up his marks-per-game. All without sacrificing his core inside mid role - yet to have fewer than 5 clearances in a game. I maintain my belief that he may be on the cusp of being the all-time greatest midfielder.

    Anyone else think he looks a little taller lately, or is it just shorter shorts?

    Also, Trent Rivers... bubble bubble bubble something really good is brewing there. In fact, we have an extraordinary group of medium defenders at the moment and I think the increasing commitment of the midfield to supporting defence is in turn giving us more opportunities to use those half-backs as offensive weapons.

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      On 13/05/2023 at 09:34, Maldonboy38 said:

    Very frustrating watching such a great list of players fumble, make poor choices, handball to team mate's feet, and get beaten at the ground ball game. I simply don't get it.

    Kayo ought to be flogged for the reliability of their product.

    Trac, Oliver and Viney were all immense AND flawed. 

    Rivers and ANB were brilliant in the last quarter.

    Fritsch looks half-hearted too often. 

    If Sparrow and Jordon are fighting for the same place in the 22, tonight's game suggests Jordon gets the chocolates. Sparrow's work rate was good, but his effectiveness and clumsiness were poor. 

    Pushing in the back in marking contests is now legal again. Both teams did it all night.

    Why do I feel so frustrated after a 10 goal win? It might be time to lower my expectations because the last 3 games have done my head in.

    Correct...lower your expectations. Am I happy about beating Hawthorn by 9 goals? Yes: are you kidding? Would I have taken a 9 goal win before the game? Stupid question.

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      On 13/05/2023 at 09:12, Diamond_Jim said:

    An uninspiring game and we move on.

    Did we learn much about the forward line

    Well, the Petty debate will no doubt continue but he did have a significant impact in the half-game he played.

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      On 13/05/2023 at 09:34, Maldonboy38 said:

    Very frustrating watching such a great list of players fumble, make poor choices, handball to team mate's feet, and get beaten at the ground ball game. I simply don't get it.

    Kayo ought to be flogged for the reliability of their product.

    Trac, Oliver and Viney were all immense AND flawed. 

    Rivers and ANB were brilliant in the last quarter.

    Fritsch looks half-hearted too often. 

    If Sparrow and Jordon are fighting for the same place in the 22, tonight's game suggests Jordon gets the chocolates. Sparrow's work rate was good, but his effectiveness and clumsiness were poor. 

    Pushing in the back in marking contests is now legal again. Both teams did it all night.

    Why do I feel so frustrated after a 10 goal win? It might be time to lower my expectations because the last 3 games have done my head in.

    I like your honesty. I’d just say that there will come a time when we are dreadful again. Enjoy it while it lasts.

    By the way, the 90 point win did your head in? Didn’t take me long to find Steven May’s alias. 

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    Not inspired by that performance. Good pressure in 1st half but that is all.

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      On 13/05/2023 at 09:43, Dee-monic said:

    Well, the Petty debate will no doubt continue but he did have a significant impact in the half-game he played.

    I stand corrected.  Petty had 6 marks and 2 goals b4 hobbling off.

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    What a bunch of ungrateful supporters.  Of course we are not going to be at our best against the bottom sides, just bank the win and move on.  I love that we can win by 9 goals in 2nd gear.  

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