1 hour ago, Smokey said:

He'll get off if we appeal. Simple as that. 

We are appealing!!! 🥳

3 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

But a 360 Spin is holding The ball.

really? you need to let the umpires know 🤣

1 minute ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

We are appealing!!! 🥳

As we should. Very happy to see the club get behind and show support to a young bloke.

I would’ve been rather upset if we didn’t.

12 minutes ago, YearOfTheDees said:

But a 360 Spin is holding The ball.

Sometimes

1 hour ago, Redleg said:

How do you reconcile it with Fogarty smashing Murphy last week and breaking his nose, with blood everywhere and not even a free kick and no citing, or even screaming by the media?

He hit him like a train crash, front on. Injured. Off the ground. Nothing to see here boys.

 

Impossible to do so Red.

The system is a total [censored] up.

The inconsistencies in umpiring and in the review system would be comical, if it weren't for the fact that they are ruining the largest professional sporting activity in Australia.

It defies reason that a professional body with the billion dollar income and resources of the AFL cannot/ will not work towards a solution to remove ( or even improve) this blight on our game.

1 hour ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

Dermott Brereton in support of JVR on SEN. Reckons it was genuine spoiling attempt. accidental contact. Says the decision must be changed, otherwise it has the ability to drastically change the game. Reckons Christian is being directed by higher powers to suspend players based on outcomes, to satisfy improved optics amongst fans (and lawyers - although that was what I inferred, not directly stated). 

What I struggle with - which fans are these “optics” appealing to? Cause all us nuffies are spewing that JVR has been offered a suspension for competing the footy. 
 

if the AFL is concerned about parents not wanting their kids to get hit in the head then we’ve got a problem. It’s a contact sport, you can’t insure against accidents. 

Rapt the challenge is on. Hopefully we incinerate Christian’s [censored]…and give it back to Jay Clark as well.

3 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Impossible to do so Red.

The system is a total [censored] up.

The inconsistencies in umpiring and in the review system would be comical, if it weren't for the fact that they are ruining the largest professional sporting activity in Australia.

It defies reason that a professional body with the billion dollar income and resources of the AFL cannot/ will not work towards a solution to remove ( or even improve) this blight on our game.

Thats just it, they wont spend the money Uncle. You see it every week with the now 5+ score reviews per game, while we all sit there clueless to the outcome. They wont even go down to JB HIFI and buy a decent set of cameras for all the possible angles, instead of 2 !

If the AFL is concerned about parents and their willingness to have their children play the game, they should be more concerned about the off-the-ball incidents which occur against the best players in every game. The constant bumping, niggling, elbowing and shoving is a far greater blight on the game than a poorly executed defensive spoil. 

17 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Impossible to do so Red.

The system is a total [censored] up.

The inconsistencies in umpiring and in the review system would be comical, if it weren't for the fact that they are ruining the largest professional sporting activity in Australia.

It defies reason that a professional body with the billion dollar income and resources of the AFL cannot/ will not work towards a solution to remove ( or even improve) this blight on our game.

Well maybe not wasting $4 million on consultancies, to simply appoint the 2IC in the office next door and paying millions and millions on Executive salaries, could provide plenty of money to fix some of their problems, which as you say are ruining our great game.

I know the game has moved on, but years ago one guy and a couple of secretaries ran the game and everyone knew the rules and what to expect. One umpire on the ground, worked better than 4 umpires now, overruling each other from 200 metres away, seems to do now. 

I know there has to be progress, but it should lead to everything being better, not worse.

Just a little monday rant.

4 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

If the AFL is concerned about parents and their willingness to have their children play the game, they should be more concerned about the off-the-ball incidents which occur against the best players in every game. The constant bumping, niggling, elbowing and shoving is a far greater blight on the game than a poorly executed defensive spoil. 

If you are concerned about your kid getting hurt, then don't let them play AFL. It is as simple as that.

Injuries will never be avoided in a contact sport, it does not matter what we do.

8 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Thats just it, they wont spend the money Uncle. You see it every week with the now 5+ score reviews per game, while we all sit there clueless to the outcome. They wont even go down to JB HIFI and buy a decent set of cameras for all the possible angles, instead of 2 !

Or Wadda ... as was discussed on another thread over the weekend ... do something about the fact that questions being asked at coaches' press conferences are inaudible !!

FMD !! There is technology that allows a robot to be landed on Mars , yet, in many ways we remain in the age of Thomas Edison.

The appeal will result in a quashing of ANY penalty, which seems obvious to anyone with half a brain. The bigger question, which many of you have raised, is why was he given a penalty in the first place? Why is there no process of oversight to make sure these ridiculous judgements aren’t made to begin with? The cynic in me thinks it’s deliberate attention seeking…..clickbait driven by controversy. Otherwise it is just amateurish beyond comprehension. 

5 minutes ago, Jaded No More said:

If you are concerned about your kid getting hurt, then don't let them play AFL. It is as simple as that.

Injuries will never be avoided in a contact sport, it does not matter what we do.

Do you know the sport with the most serious knee and ankle injuries?

Netball.

20 minutes ago, deegirl said:

What I struggle with - which fans are these “optics” appealing to? Cause all us nuffies are spewing that JVR has been offered a suspension for competing the footy. 
 

if the AFL is concerned about parents not wanting their kids to get hit in the head then we’ve got a problem. It’s a contact sport, you can’t insure against accidents. 

Re Concussions; can't the AFL and AFLPA start some trust fund that can be used in the future to help retired players that have brain issues due to concussions?

The risk will always be there, even if they were to wear helmets. However the risk these days is way lower than in the past, and it's better managed when those incidents occur.

7 minutes ago, Webber said:

The appeal will result in a quashing of ANY penalty, which seems obvious to anyone with half a brain. The bigger question, which many of you have raised, is why was he given a penalty in the first place? Why is there no process of oversight to make sure these ridiculous judgements aren’t made to begin with? The cynic in me thinks it’s deliberate attention seeking…..clickbait driven by controversy. Otherwise it is just amateurish beyond comprehension. 

It was purely incidental. 
 

It’s wasn’t careless, neither was it intentional. 
 

And there was no malice involved. 

The Cripps incident: what's the difference????

 

33 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Impossible to do so Red.

The system is a total [censored] up.

The inconsistencies in umpiring and in the review system would be comical, if it weren't for the fact that they are ruining the largest professional sporting activity in Australia.

It defies reason that a professional body with the billion dollar income and resources of the AFL cannot/ will not work towards a solution to remove ( or even improve) this blight on our game.

By the way, another poster - obviously comes from Romsey - used the word 'egregious' yesterday, on the very same topic. Is it a Romsey Mansion Buzzword of the month? Remember when everything was  'substantive'? 

BY the way, what does it mean? My wife has burned all of my books, including my Dictionary...

18 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Do you know the sport with the most serious knee and ankle injuries?

Netball.

Yep. Parents should just let their kids stare at screens and vape instead. And never ever let them in a moving vehicle. 

18 minutes ago, Webber said:

The bigger question, which many of you have raised, is why was he given a penalty in the first place? 

Besides the clicks, HQ can say their process works. MRO offers weeks as per the matrix, and player cleared by tribunal. Justice is served, in their mind at least.

Optics are for the mummies not wanting their precious kiddies playing a sport where their heads could be knocked off.

21 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Do you know the sport with the most serious knee and ankle injuries?

Netball.

A game created for the benefit of orthopaedic surgeons.

22 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Or Wadda ... as was discussed on another thread over the weekend ... do something about the fact that questions being asked at coaches' press conferences are inaudible !!

FMD !! There is technology that allows a robot to be landed on Mars , yet, in many ways we remain in the age of Thomas Edison.

Very true Uncle, very true. I reckon Thomas could do a better job......at least the lights wouldn't go out during games !!

11 minutes ago, Monbon said:

The Cripps incident: what's the difference????

 

Cripps jumped into an unaware player that must be worse

Going of the media views on this incident I'd say there is a very high chance he gets off this one.

As a poster above mentioned, how do they even come to this determination when Chol's swining arm was much worse and had a high chance of causing an injury. Absolutely no consistency from two incidents in the same match.

Christian obviously panicked because a stretcher was called out, but just because that happens doesn't mean the act is worthy of suspension.

He has shown over the years he is not competent enough to fill the MRO role, so they should be making changes to this process at the end of 2023 and get something better in place.

Do we know what time the actual hearing is yet?