CASEY: Rd 05 vs Richmond

[DemonSam 166]

Thought Dunstan deserves a go espcially if Sparrow is underperforming. Brown and McDonald looked average, is a problem we need to get sorted going forward as both look a bit old. Tomlinson needs to see a psychologist, he is shocking out there at the moment.

[kev martin 9,067]

8 minutes ago, Demonsone said:

he got his hands on the footy 

BBB had difficulty causing defensive pressure. His best efforts would be spreading his arms out and kind of zoning an area making the opponent with the ball have only 180 ° of exit. He looked a lot taller than any of the Tigers backs. Should have dominated and missing set shots without much angle is bad footy. Didn't appear to be much wind out at Casey given that a kite was flying above the field. Need to want to win and not just be satisfied if they want to be AFL. Competitiveness is a must. Best players don't even like losing at tiddlywinks.

[kev martin 9,067]

10 minutes ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Did Laurie play?

Was in the squad for the AFL captain's run.

Chance he is the sub.

[Tough Kent 2,049]

No White, Moose Munro or Baldi leaves us short in the middle at this level. I, too, worry about our midfield depth. We must use those 4 x top 36 draft picks this year to compliment our current on-ball brigade and look towards the future beyond Clarrie, Trac and Vines. 

[demon3165 1,918]

3 minutes ago, DemonSam said:

Thought Dunstan deserves a go espcially if Sparrow is underperforming. Brown and McDonald looked average, is a problem we need to get sorted going forward as both look a bit old. Tomlinson needs to see a psychologist, he is shocking out there at the moment.

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Not big on stats myself it's what you do with them that counts, unfortunately a lot of his disposals were wasted.

[Cranky Franky 1,486]

7 minutes ago, kev martin said:

BBB had difficulty causing defensive pressure. His best efforts would be spreading his arms out and kind of zoning an area making the opponent with the ball have only 180 ° of exit. He looked a lot taller than any of the Tigers backs. 

BBB, TMac & Tommo all struggled & at times their fumbles were embarrassing.

Given all 3 have struggled to hold down a spot in the last year or so you would think all 3 are at the crossroads.

[WalkingCivilWar 31,443]

31 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Good summary.

See? This is a great reply. More of this please. 

[kev martin 9,067]

13 minutes ago, DemonSam said:

Thought Dunstan deserves a go espcially if Sparrow is underperforming

Dunstan missed some quite simple hit ups. Those turnovers will kill us at AFL level. Sparrow has a good kick, and is getting better the more his confidence rises. Agree, that he appears to be struggling, but he may be playing his team role well. At the captain's run today, they were using Tom as an outside runner/ball receiver (unusual, as he is usually in and under/around). 

 Dunstan is good for the development of young players, like Woey and AMW, at those stoppages.

Edited April 23, 2023 by kev martin

[kev martin 9,067]

2 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

See? This is a great reply. More of this please. 

3165 needs a bit of support and he will give positive feedback as well as his honest opinions. Certainly dislikes personal hits.

He reads and knows the game well, I like his opinions and he is brave enough to put alternative perspectives out there.

[rjay 23,903]

21 minutes ago, kev martin said:

BBB had difficulty causing defensive pressure. His best efforts would be spreading his arms out and kind of zoning an area making the opponent with the ball have only 180 ° of exit. He looked a lot taller than any of the Tigers backs. Should have dominated and missing set shots without much angle is bad footy. Didn't appear to be much wind out at Casey given that a kite was flying above the field. Need to want to win and not just be satisfied if they want to be AFL. Competitiveness is a must. Best players don't even like losing at tiddlywinks.

This was a big problem today...with BBB and Tommy, the Tiges just walked the ball out with ease.

There wasn't much forward pressure at all and it needed to start with the senior players.

[WalkingCivilWar 31,443]

1 minute ago, kev martin said:

3165 needs a bit of support and he will give positive feedback as well as his honest opinions. Certainly dislikes personal hits.

He reads and knows the game well, I like his opinions and he is brave enough to put alternative perspectives out there.

All well and good, Kev. But it’s THE WAY in which he expresses his opinions, regardless of how valuable they might be. His belligerence is unproductive and unnecessary. It’s tiresome and irritating and serves no purpose.

He dislikes personal hits? Who doesn’t? I wonder if he knows why he cops personal hits. Common denominator etc. 

[kev martin 9,067]

3 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I wonder if he knows why he cops personal hits

He likes biting back, if we treat him kindly then the discussion is unlikely to be about the personal. As he said a few times, "debate his opinion" not his scathing remarks, and I think you will find a reasonable intelligence. 

[demon3165 1,918]

17 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

See? This is a great reply. More of this please. 

I don't sugar coat it, and will refuse to, if someone writes something that can be debated, well that's good and I like that and the same goes for me, but when you answer with rubbish and you are just negative then that's not a debate or point of view, all you need to do is explain where you think i am wrong and go from there, that's the problem here, I have explained my view of some players but people complain without explaining why or are willing to accept players flaws because they like them.

[demon3165 1,918]

7 minutes ago, kev martin said:

He likes biting back, if we treat him kindly then the discussion is unlikely to be about the personal. As he said a few times, "debate his opinion" not his scathing remarks, and I think you will find a reasonable intelligence. 

Not sure about the last two words......lol

[Deebymistake 647]

2 hours ago, demon3165 said:

If there was a level between seniors and VFL that's his place.

Hawthorn????

[demon3165 1,918]

Just now, Deebymistake said:

Hawthorn????

lmfao I don't want to cause another discussion.......

[MadAsHell 4,088]

Went along today and all I'll say is that as disappointing a loss as today was for Casey, it was as equally an impressive win for Richmond. Winning at Casey Fields is not easy, and they ran and spread really well from contest to contest while nullifying our run. They were also very accurate in front of goal, at one stage being 14.4 while at one point we were 2.10. That there was the game.

My take outs from this week.

1. James Harmes has given himself every chance of a recall. He was clearly our best and competed all day.

2. Casey's senior players are very important. No Munro, no White and no Buntine today and Casey lost. There should have been enough AFL experience out there to cover, however you could tell that senior core was still missed. Especially Munro.

3. Top heavy Casey. Today Casey went in with Bell in the ruck, Farris-White 2nd ruck, Brown, McDonald, Jefferson and Sestan forward. As a result Richmond ran the ball out of the back line with ease and got to 28 points in front. Casey started to get back into it once McDonald moved into the ruck  and Casey ensured they always had at least 2 of Bell, Farris-White, Brown, Jefferson or McDonald on the bench and improved their run across the ground. This could mean we won't see Bell with Casey for a while.

4. Bad kicking = Bad football. Casey had more scoring shots and could have easily won had they converted better. Mean while Richmond converted most opportunities and deserved their victory.

Until next time.

[demon3165 1,918]

40 minutes ago, kev martin said:

3165 needs a bit of support and he will give positive feedback as well as his honest opinions. Certainly dislikes personal hits.

He reads and knows the game well, I like his opinions and he is brave enough to put alternative perspectives out there.

I think you might find that I only fire back when posters have a crack first after I post an opinion, but I will take what you have said on board.

[rjay 23,903]

Early days but I'm not seeing much to enthuse from Jefferson.

Just doesn't really get involved.

 

[Diamond_Jim 11,746]

Just now, rjay said:

Early days but I'm not seeing much to enthuse from Jefferson.

Just doesn't really get involved.

 

early season he showed a bit but I was surprised he didn't do better today as he would have been up against the third defender. The forward delivery though was very bad... high and wayward

For his development he needs a quarter each week as the main target

[Bystander 863]

4 minutes ago, rjay said:

Early days but I'm not seeing much to enthuse from Jefferson.

Just doesn't really get involved.

 

No physical presence at all. Needs to really build up. Couldn't pull the skin off a custard at the moment.

[Dingo 763]

2 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

early season he showed a bit but I was surprised he didn't do better today as he would have been up against the third defender. The forward delivery though was very bad... high and wayward

For his development he needs a quarter each week as the main target

Didn’t he kick a goal from the boundary line?

[demon3165 1,918]

5 minutes ago, rjay said:

Early days but I'm not seeing much to enthuse from Jefferson.

Just doesn't really get involved.

 

It would not have been easy with BBB and Tmac, as it seemed they wanted to play through them a majority of the time and as a young player he might have been a bit intimidating in not wanting to get in the way, so to speak.

[kev martin 9,067]

6 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

I only fire back when posters have a crack first after I post an opinion

I've only read your "fire back", as a challenge to debate. Haven't read a word where you do personal attacks.

Some are very defensive/protective of our players, and know many players families read demonland. 

My advice would be to do twice as many positive opinions as honest negative one's. WCW is a sweet person, if you also show the positive, I think she would be more supportive. Her feedback showed that, when you were positive about one of my posts.

[WalkingCivilWar 31,443]

36 minutes ago, kev martin said:

He likes biting back, if we treat him kindly then the discussion is unlikely to be about the personal. As he said a few times, "debate his opinion" not his scathing remarks, and I think you will find a reasonable intelligence. 

Here’s an idea… how about him NOT making scathing remarks in the first place. If he doesn’t want them to be debated, why include them at all? 

10 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

I think you might find that I only fire back when posters have a crack first after I post an opinion, but I will take what you have said on board.

Any chance you’d consider also taking what I said onboard? Even some of it?

Incidentally, I won’t put you on ignore as you suggested since I actually learn from your posts. It’s just that the nasty delivery is making it really difficult to tolerate.