2 hours ago, Deeoldfart said:

I wonder how much we will be able to gauge from today’s hit out?  I’ll  be mostly looking for some hints and insights into tactical / game plan changes that we might take into the ‘23 season, and some clues as to the possible ‘pecking order’ where there seems to be strong competition for spots in our best 23.

These are critical factors for us to perfect for the finals, before steamrolling the Catty Puts. So what if we are getting ahead of ourselves? 

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

Brutal day for a praccy. 33 degrees for your first hit out of the year. Who's our drinks sponsor? Will get their worth today. 

Surely not even Langdon will go the long sleeves today.

1 hour ago, dee-tox said:

Interested to know where James Jordon will play if playing in same team as Langdon and Hunter.

Is Bowey the Salem replacement?

What do they have in mind for Rivers and Brayshaw?

Jordon could play half back, effectively replacing Salem.

JJ has the discipline and defensive nous. And in almost all his games he essentially played a half back role.

He's a terrific footballer. Super high footy iq and does whatever job the coaches ask him to do..You can see why the coaches love him.

3 minutes ago, binman said:

Jordon could play half back, effectively replacing Salem.

JJ has the discipline and defensive nous. And in almost all his games he essentially played a half back role.

He's a terrific footballer. Super high footy iq and does whatever job the coaches ask him to do..You can see why the coaches love him.

His kicking, lack of burst speed and just ok ability in aerial contests would all be found out down back.

Pretty much all the downside of Gus at half back without the elite overhead marking and passable left foot to bail him out.

There’s a big difference between folding back to fill space or receive the ball at half back and actually playing half back.

If JJ slips behind Hunter in the pecking order - which we are presuming, we don’t know for sure - then I expect he’ll be outside the best 22 waiting for a wing or on ball opportunity. Langdon and Hunter are both big minutes wingers so any 3rd winger will need to impact forward and that’s not JJ’s go.

Going to Casey and starring on ball isn’t necessarily a bad thing either, he skipped the stage in his development. Having 30 a week at Casey for a while would be good for him. He’ll up his contested possession game and practice more aggressive decision making and ball use.

55 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

His kicking, lack of burst speed and just ok ability in aerial contests would all be found out down back.

Pretty much all the downside of Gus at half back without the elite overhead marking and passable left foot to bail him out.

There’s a big difference between folding back to fill space or receive the ball at half back and actually playing half back.

If JJ slips behind Hunter in the pecking order - which we are presuming, we don’t know for sure - then I expect he’ll be outside the best 22 waiting for a wing or on ball opportunity. Langdon and Hunter are both big minutes wingers so any 3rd winger will need to impact forward and that’s not JJ’s go.

Going to Casey and starring on ball isn’t necessarily a bad thing either, he skipped the stage in his development. Having 30 a week at Casey for a while would be good for him. He’ll up his contested possession game and practice more aggressive decision making and ball use.

His endurance is pretty good now, and will only improve, so a bit a bit depends on the level he can get his athleticism at. Playing as a mid at Casey might help him develop his running power and athleticism. 

He might be one of those players who take a few pre seasons to get in optimal athletic condition. 

This is his fifth season, and he is just shy of 50 games, which by the by is pretty impressive as his first game was at the start of 2021 - meaning he has played almost every game of the last two seasons.

He's coming into his prime phase, that 50 to 120 games zone, and i reckon his combination footy smarts and good decision making is a skill set too few players have.

He'll just get better from here, and I could see him elevating his game to another level. If he does he isn't going out of the best 22.

Edited February 24, 20233 yr by binman

For the thirsty fan there are a wealth of pubs not far from Linton St to cool off. There's the East Boundary Hotel on the corner of Centre and East Boundary roads and the South Side Six  on South Rd up towards Warragul Rd

50 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

His kicking, lack of burst speed and just ok ability in aerial contests would all be found out down back.

Pretty much all the downside of Gus at half back without the elite overhead marking and passable left foot to bail him out.

There’s a big difference between folding back to fill space or receive the ball at half back and actually playing half back.

If JJ slips behind Hunter in the pecking order - which we are presuming, we don’t know for sure - then I expect he’ll be outside the best 22 waiting for a wing or on ball opportunity. Langdon and Hunter are both big minutes wingers so any 3rd winger will need to impact forward and that’s not JJ’s go.

Going to Casey and starring on ball isn’t necessarily a bad thing either, he skipped the stage in his development. Having 30 a week at Casey for a while would be good for him. He’ll up his contested possession game and practice more aggressive decision making and ball use.

I think I am a Lone Ranger on this but I have JJ in front of Hunter. I expect massive improvement from both JJ and Sparrow this year and for me it’s up to Hunter to kick the door down at Casey to replace them. 

I fully expect Hunter to be in the side round 1 but I wouldn’t have him in. 

2 hours ago, Demonland said:

Red Bull.

 

2 hours ago, Grouse said:

Brutal day for a praccy. 33 degrees for your first hit out of the year. Who's our drinks sponsor? Will get their worth today. 

According the club website:

• Major Partner: Furphys
• Official Partners: Red Bull, Penfolds, Pepsi Max, Gatorade

Will Clayton Oliver play this arvo ??

 

Salem not on the list today. Hope his neck/throat problem is fixed before R1.

We need him.

2 hours ago, pineapple dee said:

Will Clayton Oliver play this arvo ??

3 minutes bursts off the bench to avoid 3rd degree sunburn #ranga

2 hours ago, pineapple dee said:

For the thirsty fan there are a wealth of pubs not far from Linton St to cool off. There's the East Boundary Hotel on the corner of Centre and East Boundary roads and the South Side Six  on South Rd up towards Warragul Rd

The Marine hotel in Middle Brighton and the Brighton Beach Hotel on Beach rd near South Rd

2 hours ago, pineapple dee said:

For the thirsty fan there are a wealth of pubs not far from Linton St to cool off. There's the East Boundary Hotel on the corner of Centre and East Boundary roads and the South Side Six  on South Rd up towards Warragul Rd

Didn't know that still existed. I don't think I've heard the name for 40 years!

Is the South Side Six hotel the Sandbelt?

1 hour ago, Deebauched said:

Salem not on the list today. Hope his neck/throat problem is fixed before R1.

We need him.

He won’t be seen until Round 4 at the earliest.

3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

His kicking, lack of burst speed and just ok ability in aerial contests would all be found out down back.

Pretty much all the downside of Gus at half back without the elite overhead marking and passable left foot to bail him out.

There’s a big difference between folding back to fill space or receive the ball at half back and actually playing half back.

If JJ slips behind Hunter in the pecking order - which we are presuming, we don’t know for sure - then I expect he’ll be outside the best 22 waiting for a wing or on ball opportunity. Langdon and Hunter are both big minutes wingers so any 3rd winger will need to impact forward and that’s not JJ’s go.

Going to Casey and starring on ball isn’t necessarily a bad thing either, he skipped the stage in his development. Having 30 a week at Casey for a while would be good for him. He’ll up his contested possession game and practice more aggressive decision making and ball use.

totally agree. well summed up. his elite qualities are his tank (but so is Hunter who's a superior kick) and I think needs to be in the middle. He looks a natural inside footballer to me so a good stint as Casey using his '1 wood' might be what the doctor ordered. and who knows he might go up the pecking order. 

If you’re coming to Moorabbin and driving here then be prepared to park a mile away from the ground. Also bring an ice vest. 

5 minutes ago, Demonland said:

If you’re coming to Moorabbin and driving here then be prepared to park a mile away from the ground. Also bring an ice vest. 

That’s good to know. I’m about 20 mins away. I was always going to avoid Linton st. Any tips? 

5 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

That’s good to know. I’m about 20 mins away. I was always going to avoid Linton st. Any tips? 

All the side streets around Linton St are chockers. 

I had to walk about 5 minutes but I imagine it will get worse. 

The ground looks like it’s in great nick. 

1 minute ago, Demonland said:

All the side streets around Linton St are chockers. 

I had to walk about 5 minutes but I imagine it will get worse. 

Another option is to park at a station on the Frankston line and catch the train to Moorabbin station. 
About a 15 minute walk to Linton street. 

In the warm up, kick at goals session most of the players out there were the best 23.

Clayton included.

My guess is, like Spencer said, start with our best.

2 hours ago, Deebauched said:

Salem not on the list today. Hope his neck/throat problem is fixed before R1.

We need him.

Salem has a thyroid issue that will need to be managed. He had similar issues back in 2015-2016 and it limited his ability to train and played funny buggers with his muscle mass. He only just started jogging again last week and won't be seen early season at this rate. Probably more likely to see him mid year onwards if managed well. We have HBF replacement options in Rivers, Bowey, Brayshaw, Hunter and others.

3 minutes ago, kev martin said:

In the warm up, kick at goals session most of the players out there were the best 23.

Clayton included.

My guess is, like Spencer said, start with our best.

I imagine we’ll start best 22/23 available and progressively rest certain players. Will be skeleton crew by games end.