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The 2023 AFL Fixture

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4 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

It's not just how many members it's how many people turn up to the games.

Well we were 5th in 2022 behind the four big Clubs and ahead of the Cats who came in 6th. 

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    8 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

    It's not just how many members it's how many people turn up to the games.

    Spot on. Our fans won't travel so it's easy to gift the home game to Geelong. They can't host the bigger clubs because the ground's too small.

     

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    1 hour ago, Roger Mellie said:

    Spot on. Our fans won't travel so it's easy to gift the home game to Geelong. They can't host the bigger clubs because the ground's too small.

     

    Can you blame our fans when games are scheduled down there on a Thursday night, plus our ticket allocation is reduced due to the taxpayer funded ground enhancements that they are receiving down there…………again.

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    1 hour ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

    Can you blame our fans when games are scheduled down there on a Thursday night, plus our ticket allocation is reduced due to the taxpayer funded ground enhancements that they are receiving down there…………again.

    Too right

    Won't travel?  Bulltish.

    I went last year. A hundred bucks for a [censored] seat in a newly built glorified shelter shed.

     

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    How the mighty have fallen

    The hawks have only 3 home games at the MCG in the first 15 rounds and only 3 games on free to air. No Friday night games and they have 2 top 6 sides twice

    they got screwed! 🙂 

    *some of this due to playing games in Tassie

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    8 hours ago, Roger Mellie said:

    Spot on. Our fans won't travel so it's easy to gift the home game to Geelong. They can't host the bigger clubs because the ground's too small.

     

    It's not just the travel. if we play Geelong at the G we probably get 40k-50k - maybe 60k at a stretch.

    Collingwood and Richmond are almost guaranteed 80k and could push 90k.

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    Geelong only let a few dozen oppo fans in. Hard to go when you won't get in.

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    8 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

     

    That bottom 8 is a surprise. Adelaide at 17 especially. Must have a soft spot for North as I see them as 17 or 18 and not 13 as suggested.

    The top 8... nearly has it right !!

    Ah.. just watched to the end. Initial ladder positions were for home and away

    Thanks

    Edited by Diamond_Jim

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    2 hours ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

    It's not just the travel. if we play Geelong at the G we probably get 40k-50k - maybe 60k at a stretch.

    Collingwood and Richmond are almost guaranteed 80k and could push 90k.

    If we're both top 4 sides in next year's H & A, we should be pulling a 60-75K crowd at the G, assuming no covid hangover. There should be no earthly reason to keep holding it at KP.

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    On 12/18/2022 at 10:12 AM, Dee Viney Intervention said:

    Can you blame our fans when games are scheduled down there on a Thursday night, plus our ticket allocation is reduced due to the taxpayer funded ground enhancements that they are receiving down there…………again.

    Correct. And the ground is rarely full. The ticket pricing is scandalous and many Geelong people can't afford them. 

    Elitist organisation.

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    21 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

     

    Ignore this. Its historically wrong given at least 2 new teams join the 8 each year and sometimes 3. This had only 1 change.

    Who are the other 2 teams likely to miss the 8 from this season. ??

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    29 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

    Ignore this. Its historically wrong given at least 2 new teams join the 8 each year and sometimes 3. This had only 1 change.

    Who are the other 2 teams likely to miss the 8 from this season. ??

    dunno, but i pray flogmantle is one

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    2 hours ago, Demon17 said:

    Ignore this. Its historically wrong given at least 2 new teams join the 8 each year and sometimes 3. This had only 1 change.

    Who are the other 2 teams likely to miss the 8 from this season. ??

    The preview loses 100% credibility by only stating one change to the 8. Has never happened since the final 8 was introduced in 1994 and there is no good reason to suggest it will start happening next year.

    Hoping it's Freo. Another contender could be Bulldogs and don't write off Sydney as a smokey to miss the 8 given no club recovers after a grand final that was over in the second quarter.

    It could even be us if Goodwin has a poor season and/or have a bad run with injury.

    I also predict three of this year's top 6 to miss next year's top 6.

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    On 12/18/2022 at 6:07 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

    That bottom 8 is a surprise. Adelaide at 17 especially. Must have a soft spot for North as I see them as 17 or 18 and not 13 as suggested.

    The top 8... nearly has it right !!

    Ah.. just watched to the end. Initial ladder positions were for home and away

    Thanks

    Agree. Crows will not be bottom four. Building nicely imo

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    5 teams must finish 14 15 16 17 and spoon.

    If not the crows, North -under clarkson - or eagles  then who?

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    8 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

    5 teams must finish 14 15 16 17 and spoon.

    If not the crows, North -under clarkson - or eagles  then who?

    Hawks

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    Hawks and Stkilda lists look awful but you cant underestimate Hawthorn. Dont think they've had a spoon since the fifties.

    They never play at the cattery . They should have been going down there instead of us in 23. Essendon has a huge following yet theyre sent down  instead.

    If yes to hawks and aints bottom 5 who else?  Suns GWS and Bulldogs?  Maybe.

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    12 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

    Hawks and Stkilda lists look awful but you cant underestimate Hawthorn. Dont think they've had a spoon since the fifties.

    They never play at the cattery . They should have been going down there instead of us in 23. Essendon has a huge following yet theyre sent down  instead.

    If yes to hawks and aints bottom 5 who else?  Suns GWS and Bulldogs?  Maybe.

    Bulldogs still have some quality players, I have them making the 8.

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    1 minute ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

    Bulldogs still have some quality players, I have them making the 8.

    Caleb Daniel  , Liber Weightman and co are overrated.  Fold up like wet paperbags under pressure. They only beat us second time round after we had a short break after returning from the ridiculous NT climate.

    A team of cheats and scraggers. Fluked 8th this year because Carlton mupped it against the pies. Straight out in first week of finals.  Luck must be running out with the umps. Bottom 5 for me.

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    25 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

    Caleb Daniel  , Liber Weightman and co are overrated.  Fold up like wet paperbags under pressure. They only beat us second time round after we had a short break after returning from the ridiculous NT climate.

    A team of cheats and scraggers. Fluked 8th this year because Carlton mupped it against the pies. Straight out in first week of finals.  Luck must be running out with the umps. Bottom 5 for me.

    Bont, Macrae, English, Naughton, Treloar. Losing Dunkley hurts but they’re added Lobb (different position obviously).

    I don’t like them and yes I think they play for frees but they have talent and play for their coach. I think they can finish 7-10 but have them probably 8th again.

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    Bont is a great player but has to carry the workload. I expect to see him struggling with injuries for the rest of his career.

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    2 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

    Bont, Macrae, English, Naughton, Treloar. Losing Dunkley hurts but they’re added Lobb (different position obviously).

    I don’t like them and yes I think they play for frees but they have talent and play for their coach. I think they can finish 7-10 but have them probably 8th again.

    The other things the dogs have in their favour is the pressure of song the 2021 bigly won't be such a mill stone around their neck.

    And you'd hope for their sakes bevo clams his farm and they avoid the own goals that impacted the start of their 2022 season.

    I'm really curious to see if bevo changes their game plan they way Scott did, and adopt a territory model.

    Their flick it around, fast transition of the hb model isn't going to win them another flag IMO. As much as he is a bit out there, i rate bevo as coach and wont be shocked if he makes some big changes to how they play.

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    1 minute ago, fr_ap said:

    Carlton will win the flag in 23. 

    my wish is carlton and richmond end the h&a season tied on points (after both losing the last game), with richmond  having a slight % advantage so finishing 9th (as is their natural place) leaving carlton with 10th place, both missing the 8 by the tiniest % only 

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