Can't wait to hear Mark 'Shifter' Sheehan refer to every player selected as "elite".

  On 28/11/2022 at 04:15, dazzledavey36 said:

Can't wait to hear Mark 'Shifter' Sheehan refer to every player selected as "elite".

I'm looking forward to reading comments about how fantastic our draftees are based on 3-minute highlight packages.

Now that WB has entered the race for pick 4 Essendon may take their offer instead.

  On 28/11/2022 at 04:15, dazzledavey36 said:

Mark 'Shifter' Sheehan

Who?

  On 28/11/2022 at 04:24, durango said:

Now that WB has entered the race for pick 4 Essendon may take their offer instead.

Can't see the details. What are they offering? Link? 

  On 28/11/2022 at 04:35, Grouse said:

Can't see the details. What are they offering? Link? 

The Western Bulldogs have emerged as a shock contender to snatch Essendon’s No.4 draft pick in a plot twist to the Josh Dunkley trade saga.

The Dogs, armed with selections 11, 21, 39 as well as two first-round selections in the 2023 draft, have made a late pitch to poach the prized selection.

They received picks 21 and Brisbane Lions’ future first-round pick as part of the Dunkley deal that stretched the trade deadline due to tense negotiations.

The Herald Sun can reveal that the Dogs are one of four clubs locked in 11th-hour talks with the Bombers over the No.4 pick.

Melbourne also has strong interest and, like the Dogs, has significant draft capital in 2023 to help broker a deal.

from the Herald Sun

They probably have us beat if they're offering both future firsts along with pick 11.

Think Essendon hold onto pick 4 regardless. 

I think the bombers would be foolish to trade pick 4.
There is a swag of obviously highly talented players in this draft and they will all go early.

 

  On 28/11/2022 at 04:39, durango said:

The Western Bulldogs have emerged as a shock contender to snatch Essendon’s No.4 draft pick in a plot twist to the Josh Dunkley trade saga.

The Dogs, armed with selections 11, 21, 39 as well as two first-round selections in the 2023 draft, have made a late pitch to poach the prized selection.

They received picks 21 and Brisbane Lions’ future first-round pick as part of the Dunkley deal that stretched the trade deadline due to tense negotiations.

The Herald Sun can reveal that the Dogs are one of four clubs locked in 11th-hour talks with the Bombers over the No.4 pick.

Melbourne also has strong interest and, like the Dogs, has significant draft capital in 2023 to help broker a deal.

from the Herald Sun

 

Dang. 

  On 28/11/2022 at 04:25, Demonstone said:

Who?

*Kevin.

No idea why I typed Mark...

Dees to bid on Davey @ 13 if Dons don't trade with us (opinion but hopefully fact), wiping out pick 22

It was reported on Sunday night Melbourne had offered three first-round picks - pick 13 this year, plus future picks tied to the Demons and Fremantle - for picks 4 and 22.

Now the Herald Sun has reported the Western Bulldogs, who own picks 11, 21 and 39 plus two future first-round picks (their own and Brisbane’s) are also making a bid for the Bombers’ prized selection.

  On 28/11/2022 at 04:15, dazzledavey36 said:

Can't wait to hear Mark 'Shifter' Sheehan refer to every player selected as "elite".

And Brad Johnson or Mick Ablett claim all are great value where taken and every second club got a steal. 

Edited November 28, 20222 yr by Lil_red_fire_engine

  On 28/11/2022 at 04:15, dazzledavey36 said:

Can't wait to hear Mark 'Shifter' Sheehan refer to every player selected as "elite".

I think he even refered to me as Casey Fields "ELITE" Training correspondent!! LOL! 

  On 28/11/2022 at 06:27, Lil_red_fire_engine said:

And Brad Johnson or Mick Ablett claim all are great value where taken and every second club got a steal. 

Brad 'Bradley' Johnson is the worst of the lot

  On 27/11/2022 at 22:29, durango said:

I cannot believe that pick 4 and 22 are worth 3 first round picks to pick 2 untried players with potential?

So we are trading 3 untried players with potential for 2 untried players with potential.

Our 3 first round picks are 13 this year and next year is totally dependent on where Melbourne and Fremantle finish. Say Freo are 6th and Melbourne are 4th then we are trading 2022 13 and 2023 13 & 15 for 2022 4 & 22. I suppose it all depends on how you rate 4, 13 & 22 this year. Normally 4 would be significantly higher than 13 with the gap between 13 & 22 much smaller. I assume Melbourne is after a specific player that will definitely go Top 5, and still think they'll get someone decent at 22.
 

  On 28/11/2022 at 01:50, Grouse said:

For those that can read it it's an article written around these figures. Top ten statistically is far more valuable than the next tier. 

Lies, damned lies & statistics. Why group 1-10 & 11-20? Why not 1-5, 6-10,11-15, 16-20? Having said that, the average games differential is surprisingly close. There are so many other variables but I accept elite talent does make a difference. I would argue everything other than say average games & All Australian Selections is fairly meaningless.

  On 28/11/2022 at 04:44, Nascent said:

They probably have us beat if they're offering both future firsts along with pick 11.

Think Essendon hold onto pick 4 regardless. 

We'll find out soon but I don't see the Bulldogs future firsts being any better than Melbourne's. Will Brisbane & Western Bulldogs finish lower than Melbourne & Fremantle in 2023?

  On 28/11/2022 at 05:07, FritschyBusiness said:

I think the bombers would be foolish to trade pick 4.
There is a swag of obviously highly talented players in this draft and they will all go early.

If there's a swag by definition they all won't go early. If there's only 5 highly talented players and a big gap after that, I agree you don't trade 4 but if you think there's not a huge gap between 4 & 13 then why not? When do the highly-talented players run out? 5, 10, 15 or even 20?

  On 28/11/2022 at 06:02, adonski said:

Dees to bid on Davey @ 13 if Dons don't trade with us (opinion but hopefully fact), wiping out pick 22

Madness! I'm not saying Cal Twomey is infallible but he doesn't rate Davey Top 30. If Melbourne bid for Davey we'd likely get stuck with a player we don't need or want as Essendon wouldn't match the bid.

Edited November 28, 20222 yr by Sydney_Demon
Typo

Pretty much as expected.

 

1 GWS   Aaron Cadman

2 Brisbane  Will Ashcroft

3 North Melbourne  Harry Sheezel

4 North Melbourne  George Wardlaw

Feel sorry for kids drafted to Essendon. Good luck. 

Is it just top 10 that get presented there jumper by someone from the club?

5   Essendon   Elijah  Tsatas

 

Poor Cameron McKenzie, gets presented with his jumper by David Hale. Surely Hawthorn could have got someone else. I mean Cadman got his jumper from Toby & the Essendon kid got his from Matty Lloyd 

Geez that Rueben Ginbey kid from WA is  a big unit massive frame on him. Will be a gun I reckon

  On 28/11/2022 at 08:51, dees189227 said:

Poor Cameron McKenzie, gets presented with his jumper by David Hale. Surely Hawthorn could have got someone else. I mean Cadman got his jumper from Toby & the Essendon kid got his from Matty Lloyd 

Although Hale is a triple premiership player, compared to Lloyd’s one; but admittedly Lloyd has a higher profile. 

  On 28/11/2022 at 09:01, Bates Mate said:

Geez that Rueben Ginbey kid from WA is  a big unit massive frame on him. Will be a gun I reckon

moves like oliver in traffic in his highlights 

Can't wait until this is over and we hear oh can't believe so and so slipped through to that pick.

Or people saying Gee they've picked up a beauty there