Early 2023 Season Preview of Dees

[Demonland 66,837]

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[Ollie fan 2,336]

I don’t like the implied criticism of Fritta. I thought it was unfair right through the season. He is there to kick goals, not to give them away. In fact, I think the murmur of criticism of him for being selfish got to him and he ended up giving away some critical opportunities to try and be unselfish which cost us a game or two. Sooner or later, someone has to take the shot – so often, with other players we would see the ball being handpassed around and around looking for the perfect opportunity; Fritta is there to take the opportunity and kick the goal.

[WalkingCivilWar 34,783]

1 hour ago, Ollie fan said:

I don’t like the implied criticism of Fritta. I thought it was unfair right through the season. He is there to kick goals, not to give them away. In fact, I think the murmur of criticism of him for being selfish got to him and he ended up giving away some critical opportunities to try and be unselfish which cost us a game or two. Sooner or later, someone has to take the shot – so often, with other players we would see the ball being handpassed around and around looking for the perfect opportunity; Fritta is there to take the opportunity and kick the goal.

Sadly, you’re spot on. ☹️

[Ollie fan 2,336]

Thanks for the endorsement, WCW – I read your posts, and your opinion is one that I highly value.

However, when I read my original post, I’m not sure I was being completely clear and I hope you agree with my intention - I was trying to say that after the murmur of criticism, in my view he gave away opportunities, trying to show unselfishness, when he should have been more “selfish” and kicked the goal. I hope that is what you are agreeing with.

[4_Kent_Watts 850]

4 hours ago, Ollie fan said:

I don’t like the implied criticism of Fritta. I thought it was unfair right through the season. He is there to kick goals, not to give them away. In fact, I think the murmur of criticism of him for being selfish got to him and he ended up giving away some critical opportunities to try and be unselfish which cost us a game or two. Sooner or later, someone has to take the shot – so often, with other players we would see the ball being handpassed around and around looking for the perfect opportunity; Fritta is there to take the opportunity and kick the goal.

If there's one player i we'll never bag for being a hog being a player to have the shot at goal more than anyone...... besides Kozzie.... play like ALLEN JAKOVICH and take the shot yourself Fritta. Be Goal Hungry.  I agree totally OllieFan.

[tiers 2,785]

Fritta's role is to kick goals. I believe that his eyes and mind are always on a goal kicking opportunity.

That he once ignored Tracc in a better position is not a failure. He was just doing his job.

It falls to his team mates to support him in this role by shepherding, leading oppos away, loud voices etc.

Six goals in a premiership buys a lot of indulgence..

[4_Kent_Watts 850]

18 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Thanks for the endorsement, WCW – I read your posts, and your opinion is one that I highly value.

However, when I read my original post, I’m not sure I was being completely clear and I hope you agree with my intention - I was trying to say that after the murmur of criticism, in my view he gave away opportunities, trying to show unselfishness, when he should have been more “selfish” and kicked the goal. I hope that is what you are agreeing with.

YES X 2

[Grand New Flag 3,227]

What dribble.  2 minutes I will never get back.  Everyone on this site has better insight than this........... even the DL snowflakes.

[WalkingCivilWar 34,783]

27 minutes ago, Ollie fan said:

Thanks for the endorsement, WCW – I read your posts, and your opinion is one that I highly value.

However, when I read my original post, I’m not sure I was being completely clear and I hope you agree with my intention - I was trying to say that after the murmur of criticism, in my view he gave away opportunities, trying to show unselfishness, when he should have been more “selfish” and kicked the goal. I hope that is what you are agreeing with.

Yeah, I did get your point and I do agree. It was almost like he was overcompensating and oftentimes it was to his own and the team’s detriment.

But at the same time I was also lamenting the fact that it certainly got to him outside of footy. Some members of the public clearly think footy players are fair game and can be verbally abused, even when celebrating a family member’s birthday at a restaurant and even with both sets of elderly grandparents there.

It definitely got to him in both respects. 

[Ollie fan 2,336]

Well, if that’s what happened to him, that is an absolute disgrace. If anyone saw him in public and didn’t do him the courtesy of leaving him alone, the only way to treat him would be to admire and praise his absolute class and elegance as a player.

[radar 1,858]

1 hour ago, tiers said:

Fritta's role is to kick goals. I believe that his eyes and mind are always on a goal kicking opportunity.

That he once ignored Tracc in a better position is not a failure. He was just doing his job.

It falls to his team mates to support him in this role by shepherding, leading oppos away, loud voices etc.

Six goals in a premiership buys a lot of indulgence..

THAT goal in Perth. 
I’ve never wanted a goal so much in 57 years

[Palace Dees 2,069]

6 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Yeah, I did get your point and I do agree. It was almost like he was overcompensating and oftentimes it was to his own and the team’s detriment.

But at the same time I was also lamenting the fact that it certainly got to him outside of footy. Some members of the public clearly think footy players are fair game and can be verbally abused, even when celebrating a family member’s birthday at a restaurant and even with both sets of elderly grandparents there.

It definitely got to him in both respects. 

A bloke who kicks 6 goals in a GF, including a quick 2 that started the revival that won the flag, then followed up by being the only AFL player to kick a goal in every round the next season is abused in a restaurant?

I cannot think of comment that won't get me suspended from Demonland.  Whatever you think I'm thinking  - triple it!

Edited November 16, 2022 by Palace Dees

[640MD 3,082]

In my opinion

Gerard Healy can stick his opinions where is wallet sits.  He turned towards the money years ago FO!

[loges 6,335]

26 minutes ago, 640MD said:

In my opinion

Gerard Healy can stick his opinions where is wallet sits.  He turned towards the money years ago FO!

And yet there are problems that need to be rectified and I'm not talking about Fritta.

[640MD 3,082]

No dispute about some problems, 10 zip then  losing the 2 finals. you are correct and how we lost those games after half time.

Bur relying on G.H. for his opinion and insight.   You cannot rely on  Healy.    Turned his back.

[dazzledavey36 49,738]

1 hour ago, loges said:

And yet there are problems that need to be rectified and I'm not talking about Fritta.

Agree.

Fritter can hold his head up high as he had a fantastic year. But the criticism at the time was warranted for being selfish (the personal abuse definitely not). 

Far more bigger concerns then Fritta and it was more around our game plan and system.

Backing Goodwin has reflected on this and will rectify over the summer.

[Katrina Dee Fan 2,501]

16 hours ago, Ollie fan said:

Thanks for the endorsement, WCW – I read your posts, and your opinion is one that I highly value.

However, when I read my original post, I’m not sure I was being completely clear and I hope you agree with my intention - I was trying to say that after the murmur of criticism, in my view he gave away opportunities, trying to show unselfishness, when he should have been more “selfish” and kicked the goal. I hope that is what you are agreeing with.

I absolutely agree with you on this, Ollie.  I've never had the perception of Fritta ever being selfish, and I do think the media criticism of him hurt his confidence in that respect.  It's a big reason why players need to listen less to the media and more to their coaches. He has not been the issue.  I do think a bigger aspect this year has been the absence of TMac, and the leadership he provided - the forward line missed that once he was injured.  We need him fit and raring to go next year.  

Edited November 16, 2022 by Katrina Dee Fan

[picket fence 15,735]

Huh Early season prediction???????

1 Dees to finish on top at end of home and away

2 Dees to win Flag

3 Clarry to Win Brownlow

4 JVR To fire Big Time

5 6 Players in A.A team

6 Brodie Grundy, Lachy Hunter and to a lesser extent Josh Schache to be hailed as "Masterstrokes" of Recruiting as they have tremendous years

[WalkingCivilWar 34,783]

57 minutes ago, Katrina Dee Fan said:

I absolutely agree with you on this, Ollie.  I've never had the perception of Fritta ever being selfish, and I do think the media criticism of him hurt his confidence in that respect.  It's a big reason why players need to listen less to the media and more to their coaches. He has not been the issue.  I do think a bigger aspect this year has been the absence of TMac, and the leadership he provided - the forward line missed that once he was injured.  We need him fit and raring to go next year.  

Avoiding the media and socials is one thing, but unless players stayed locked up at home 24/7 they’re gonna be subjected to all sorts. The incident to which I referred earlier is only one such. It’s just that that particular one really stood out since Fritta’s grandparents were there and who’d wanna hear their grandson being yelled at as “a selfish [censored]ing c**t”?

PS The loudmouthed undesirable got more than he bargained for when Fritta’s dad and uncle jumped to his defence. 😁

[Katrina Dee Fan 2,501]

20 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Avoiding the media and socials is one thing, but unless players stayed locked up at home 24/7 they’re gonna be subjected to all sorts. The incident to which I referred earlier is only one such. It’s just that that particular one really stood out since Fritta’s grandparents were there and who’d wanna hear their grandson being yelled at as “a selfish [censored]ing c**t”?

PS The loudmouthed undesirable got more than he bargained for when Fritta’s dad and uncle jumped to his defence. 😁

From the different members of the Fritsch family that I've met (including his lovely mum), why doesn't this surprise me!!  They're fiercely supportive of their boy! I've seen his grandma in the Redlegs room a number of times, she's a walking billboard of Fritta!

[Katrina Dee Fan 2,501]

17 hours ago, Grand New Flag said:

What dribble.  2 minutes I will never get back.  Everyone on this site has better insight than this........... even the DL snowflakes.

TBH I take what Gerard Healy says about Melbourne with a grain of salt.  We all know how much he hates the club, and has done since he left for the Swans!

[durango 1,985]

Gerard Healy left the MFC not because of money but when Tom Hafey made a convincing story that the Swans were closer to a premiership than the MFC he left since he played in an era of 1979-1985 were success on the field was few far between.

[Demon_spurs 1,722]

17 minutes ago, durango said:

Gerard Healy left the MFC not because of money but when Tom Hafey made a convincing story that the Swans were closer to a premiership than the MFC he left since he played in an era of 1979-1985 were success on the field was few far between.

I know we are getting off subject, but that final against the Swans in 87 was one of my fondest memories. I remember thinking, " I bet you're glad you left Gerard" ha ha

[hardtack 10,186]

3 hours ago, 640MD said:

No dispute about some problems, 10 zip then  losing the 2 finals. you are correct and how we lost those games after half time.

Bur relying on G.H. for his opinion and insight.   You cannot rely on  Healy.    Turned his back.

Surely having opinions and insights from someone like Healy, who has not aligned himself with the club for some time, is going to be more valuable than having insights from someone who still identifies themself as connected to the club?  

Edited November 17, 2022 by hardtack

[Sir Why You Little 35,319]

I heard this segment live. I am still trying to work out what was actually said. 
i don’t think Healy hates The MFC. He was offered a huge Contract from Dr Edelstien to go up North. 
But yes, the memories of he and Greg walking off the MCG together in 1987 have always stuck