Saints Sack Ratten & Appoint Lyon as Coach

[buck_nekkid 6,054]

Waiting for the heading “Ratsacked” and a pic of the old rat bait.

wonder who moved the cheese?

[Lucifers Hero 40,424]

1 minute ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Demonland wanted Goody sacked in 2019

2019?  I thought it was 2020 when DL became fever pitch on this.

Maybe they weren't entirely wrong as the President and at least one Board member were simultaneously in the throes of getting AFL approval to sack him.  So the DL angst wasn't entirely unfounded.

Nonetheless your point is very valid:   the clubs that back in their coach and stay the distance, support them properly are the ones that experience success.

[DubDee 26,191]

So Ratten will get paid out a years wages or more and doesn’t have to Coach the Saints again. Sweet deal!

[binman 44,145]

Something doesn't add up. 

Sack a coach straight after the trade period, when the attention is all on the trades that happened.

Maybe they didn't want to scupper any trades, though of course the go with that would have been to have a new coach in place.

They won't have a coach in place for the draft, or if they do that person would only have just arrived. And their draft board would be shaped by what type of players ratten wanted to bring in.

There's no way this was the plan

All smacks of damage control.

[DubDee 26,191]

13 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Demonland wanted Goody sacked in 2019

Not to mention 2020 and early 2021

[DubDee 26,191]

The poor decision was giving him the deal in round 11. They got excited and thought they were top 4 bound

Ratten is a good coach but not sure he can take a team to success. not that their list is that good 

They beat Freo away and Geelong and then only win 3 from the last 11 games. Bizarre club

[dice 712]

38 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I thought that too.

But having 3 ex senior coaches working for the senior coach probably wouldn't be the best mix of support for Goodwin.

Eventually that is going to happen somewhere given the number of coaches that get sacked every year!

[Demonland 73,265]

17 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Not to mention 2020 and early 2021

Some in 2022 too.

[Demonland 73,265]

I hear they are a household name in New Zealand.

[Wodjathefirst 2,657]

11 minutes ago, Demonland said:

I hear they are a household name in New Zealand.

How does  Neal Daniher’s famous quote go?

After all is said…..

[whatwhat say what 23,064]

3 hours ago, old dee said:

Costly move. 2 years salary !!!!

nah, 6 month payout only

[chookrat 4,268]

I'm wondering if we will see a Coach traded to another team as part of a soft cap dump. Honestly if Don's and St Kilda were more organised they could have simply swapped Rutten / Ratten and saved alot of $$$.

[layzie 34,119]

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

So Ratten will get paid out a years wages or more and doesn’t have to Coach the Saints again. Sweet deal!

Only something St Kilda could do..

[layzie 34,119]

5 minutes ago, chookrat said:

I'm wondering if we will see a Coach traded to another team as part of a soft cap dump. Honestly if Don's and St Kilda were more organised they could have simply swapped Rutten / Ratten and saved alot of $$$.

Only had to change one letter as well!

[Demonland 73,265]

7 minutes ago, layzie said:

Only had to change one letter as well!

And an easy photoshop job for the social media teams.

[Dee Viney Intervention 1,972]

Not sure how it works, but I really hope St Kilda have to wear Ratten’s payout plus the wages of the new senior coach in their soft cap. If for no other reason than being incompetent as a club.

[David-Demon 568]

12 hours ago, deegirl said:

Any word on the reasons for Ratten’s sacking?

Yeah, he wants to coach a better Club in Casey...

[David-Demon 568]

I am a mind reader and it's Grant Thomas for me @ The sinner Saints.

Tea readings start at $2,000 an hr if interested...

Edited October 13, 2022 by David-Demon

[Dee Viney Intervention 1,972]

2 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

I thought that too.

But having 3 ex senior coaches working for the senior coach probably wouldn't be the best mix of support for Goodwin.

Not a bad point you make. I’d like to think we are mature enough as a club to make it work if he’s the best fit. 

[Rolling Stone 160]

[Demon17 5,208]

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

The poor decision was giving him the deal in round 11. They got excited and thought they were top 4 bound

Ratten is a good coach but not sure he can take a team to success. not that their list is that good 

They beat Freo away and Geelong and then only win 3 from the last 11 games. Bizarre club

Beginners error that always amuses me that it still happens.

Think Teague, and even Jeff 'the Geisch' Geischen from the old days.

 

 

 

 

[BDA 22,955]

There is rarely a need to re-sign coaches' mid-season. Unless there is a possibility that they jump ship (i can't ever remember this being the case) to another club it should never be done. wait until the season is over and then decide. Why do clubs fall into this trap so often?

 

[bluey 1,118]

John  Northey, unsigned mid year.

[Dee Zephyr 19,269]

A couple of St Kilda fans here at work are totally bemused with the news. Apparently the Saints were very close to acquiring DeGoey so sacking Ratten prior to trade period wouldn't have helped get DeGoey. That's if they had plans to sack him back then and he was also at the draft combine last week interviewing prospects. Bizarre.

[At Least I Saw a Flag 5,304]

He was an excellent midfield coach at MFC.

Perhaps he was sacked for using the expression "scoreboard nourishment"? Which would be reasonable.