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[Supreme_Demon 3,899]

10 minutes ago, Demonland said:

 

Hmmmm....I dunno. 🤔

I still would rather take a chance on a 20 year old Jackson Callow.

But I guess we will wait and see if the Demons think it is worth giving Josh Schache a last shot at an AFL career? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[fr_ap 2,529]

2 hours ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

https://www.afl.com.au/video/814855/vfl-showreel-r20-josh-schache-highlights?videoId=814855&modal=true&type=video&publishFrom=1659776789001
 

I don’t know who this team is that the Bulldogs beat up on, but Schache looks like he has bulked up, significantly. Takes some nice overhead marks. If it’s Weid out, this isn’t a bad replacement. Maybe the penny will drop for him at a new club. Dogs are stocked for forwards. They don’t need him. 

To be fair, Weid has had days like that in the VFL probably on >5 occasions. Often against better opposition - including his memorable day out at Box Hill against the Hawks. 

These highlights were against Coburg Lions. They went 4-14 for the season and havent finished outside the bottom 4 since 2014 after losing their AFL affiliated team. 

A couple of nice marks at the end but the majority were relatively uncontested - his off the ground one in the square bizarrely rewarded his famous lack of intensity.

This guy has already changed clubs and the fresh voice didn't do anything. Weid gets the benefit of the doubt there. 

Doesn't excite me - but I'll get behind him if he joins 

[Supreme_Demon 3,899]

Josh Schache certainly has talent still.

I think his issues are more psychological.

How you change your mindset and become a more aggressive player like a "Wayne Carey type" is a whole other issue.

His performances for Victoria Country Under 18s many years ago were impressive though.

Perhaps Mark "Choco" Williams will be able to get the best out of Josh Schache?

[rpfc 28,779]

7 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Josh Schache certainly has talent still.

I think his issues are more psychological.

How you change your mindset and become a more aggressive player like a "Wayne Carey type" is a whole other issue.

His performances for Victoria Country Under 18s many years ago were impressive though.

Perhaps Mark "Choco" Williams will be able to get the best out of Josh Schache?

Some blokes just don’t have it. You’d be wasting Williams’ time.

[dazzledavey36 55,361]

8 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Josh Schache certainly has talent still.

I think his issues are more psychological.

How you change your mindset and become a more aggressive player like a "Wayne Carey type" is a whole other issue.

His performances for Victoria Country Under 18s many years ago were impressive though.

Perhaps Mark "Choco" Williams will be able to get the best out of Josh Schache?

Like he has with Weideman? 

[dee-tox 4,835]

9 hours ago, Supreme_Demon said:

Perhaps Mark "Choco" Williams will be able to get the best out of Josh Schache?

Once Chocco has finished with Schache, perhaps he could then turn his attention to the Russia -Ukraine conflict, hyperinflation, the worldwide cost of living crisis and the covid pandemic?

[Lucifers Hero 40,364]

11 hours ago, pewpewpew said:

Can't see them both wearing our beloved red and blue next year. 😉

[layzie 34,014]

Not saying you can't change the kid's mindset but anything psychological is one heck of a project. Give me the right mindset over abundance of talent any day. 

Edited October 11, 2022 by layzie

[Red and Blue realist 2,058]

15 hours ago, adonski said:

Don't quite understand the logic in trading Weid only to bring the Shach Attack in, but at the end of the day who really cares about either

I'd be guessing that Weid being in contract might be on $350-400K, whereas with Schache out of contract and seemingly on the scrap head - we might be looking at a delisted free agent not a trade - he might be on $100k or more less. Could they both turn it around with a change of clubs - maybe? But at least we'll be saving some $$ on the similar player.

[layzie 34,014]

5 minutes ago, Red and Blue realist said:

I'd be guessing that Weid being in contract might be on $350-400K, whereas with Schache out of contract and seemingly on the scrap head - we might be looking at a delisted free agent not a trade - he might be on $100k or more less. Could they both turn it around with a change of clubs - maybe? But at least we'll be saving some $$ on the similar player.

Would be a bit sad if a highly touted no.2 pick is only on 100k or lower at 25 y.o for his sake. It's a side of the game we don't hear much about. 

[Palace Dees 2,340]

3 minutes ago, layzie said:

Would be a bit sad if a highly touted no.2 pick is only on 100k or lower at 25 y.o for his sake. It's a side of the game we don't hear much about. 

I think R&B is saying $100k less than the Weid eg $250 - $300k

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,602]

11 hours ago, whatwhat say what said:

how many times does sen just post variations of the same content?

Trade radio is even worse. 

[layzie 34,014]

2 minutes ago, Palace Dees said:

I think R&B is saying $100k less than the Weid eg $250 - $300k

Possibly, would make more sense. 

[Clintosaurus 7,867]

10 minutes ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

Trade radio is even worse. 

Both filled with National Tiles and Kogan Mobile ads.

[GCDee 3,199]

A summer training on Steven may will either make or break the guy…. 
 

[Deemania since 56 6,718]

3 hours ago, rpfc said:

Some blokes just don’t have it. You’d be wasting Williams’ time.

Geez, this Schache bloke, who has some experience, reminds me of Ross Brewer - a very handy fwd flanker from the annals of old age. He has a similar build, height, mobility and kicks just as well once an opportunity is taken. With a bit of 'mongrel' instilled in his efforts ....

[Deemania since 56 6,718]

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Not saying you can't change the kid's mindset but anything psychological is one heck of a project. Give me the right mindset over abundance of talent any day. 

It's not psychological.

[Wells 11 5,422]

20 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Geez, this Schache bloke, who has some experience, reminds me of Ross Brewer - a very handy fwd flanker from the annals of old age. He has a similar build, height, mobility and kicks just as well once an opportunity is taken. With a bit of 'mongrel' instilled in his efforts ....

Ross Brewer! blast from the past there. Remember him kicking 5 or 6 Vs Fitzroy in his first year. when Stan Alves was captain.  In the category “almost v good” .. but he was only ever really just ok.  Went to the pies and kicked the winning goal in a semi  v Fitzroy 

[SA Red n Blue 48]

Yeah look he hasn’t set the world on fire & just like Weid loads of potential but simply not hard enough at the ball & a bit scared of physical contact.

But maybe this is being Weid driven? He may want the change, need the new environment & he has 1 year left for us which if he stinks it up again like he has every other season will mean the end of his AFL career.Dons may have offered a multi year deal which even if he still stinks means he has a few more $ for a few extra years . Also unlike Freo we are not a club to stop a player from another option.

[dazzledavey36 55,361]

Looks like this one may not get done.

[mo64 5,881]

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Looks like this one may not get done.

? Then surely we hold onto Weid.

[Lord Nev 13,512]

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Looks like this one may not get done.

Why's that mate? Heard something?

The trade embargo is on now, so even though clubs are talking through deals nothing can be actually done until 3pm.

[Sydee 4,529]

13 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Looks like this one may not get done.

Hope not he is a downgrade on Sam Weideman - can't see why we would even entertain this 

[Monbon 1,840]

12 hours ago, fr_ap said:

To be fair, Weid has had days like that in the VFL probably on >5 occasions. Often against better opposition - including his memorable day out at Box Hill against the Hawks. 

These highlights were against Coburg Lions. They went 4-14 for the season and havent finished outside the bottom 4 since 2014 after losing their AFL affiliated team. 

A couple of nice marks at the end but the majority were relatively uncontested - his off the ground one in the square bizarrely rewarded his famous lack of intensity.

This guy has already changed clubs and the fresh voice didn't do anything. Weid gets the benefit of the doubt there. 

Doesn't excite me - but I'll get behind him if he joins 

I was there at Box Hill that day. He was magnificent - pack marks, long goals. I've been a fan ever since. That he has only rarely lit up as a Demon Forward - a la 2018 Finals - is a great disappointment for me.

[dazzledavey36 55,361]

12 minutes ago, Sydee said:

Hope not he is a downgrade on Sam Weideman - can't see why we would even entertain this 

How is it a downgrade?

Both similar player really. You could even say Schache has been more productive at AFL level then Weideman.