Just now, WalkingCivilWar said:

Really? I thought I was making it clear without actually having to say it.

Consider this: it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that a player makes himself unavailable for selection. I’m not saying that’s what’s happened in the case of our semifinal. I’m just asking that you entertain the possibility that that’s what may’ve happened. That selfsame player might’ve already decided his future wasn’t with us. But it seems fans have automatically deemed this a choice entirely made by the Club. 

The Player is being paid by The Club, to work.
Personally I would have Played him against his old Club in a Final. To see him in the Grand Stand with a Demon Scarf was wrong 

Oh well. Atleast Dees have plenty of cap space and traded mostly fringe players except Hibberd( retired).

No impact at all come next season unless Gawn injured. Surprised Harmes got a 3y deal and JJ will never set the house on fire.

Who can we buy with all our extra cash after no salary dumps req?  lol

Just now, Sir Why You Little said:

The Player is being paid by The Club, to work.
Personally I would have Played him against his old Club in a Final. To see him in the Grand Stand with a Demon Scarf was wrong 

You would’ve FORCED him to play? You can lead a horse to water etc. 

5 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

You can lead a horse to water etc

I believe the saying is "You can lead a horse to drink but you can't make him water".

Later Brodie. It's been real, sort of.

If some of the suggestions here that he checked out or refused to be picked are true then that is just poor on his part.

 

5 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

I believe the saying is "You can lead a horse to drink but you can't make him water".

I thought it was “you can lead a [censored] to culture but can’t make her think” Dorothy Parker.

Just now, DeeMee said:

I thought it was “you can lead a [censored] to culture but can’t make her think” Dorothy Parker.

Making use of the word horticulture 

18 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

You would’ve FORCED him to play? You can lead a horse to water etc. 

it is his F$&@ing Job. and yes Playing against his old side that kicked him out would have been a motivating factor. 

1 hour ago, binman said:

You misunderstood my question.

Regardless, he should have played in the finals and he should have been playing later in the season.

Textbook mismanagement.

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

It didn’t work. But we tried. 
Better to have tried and failed than to have done nothing. In the end we didn’t lose anything. 

…except the finals. 😭

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Hey @Stiff Arm, remember when@drysdale demon got really defensive and had a crack at both of us mid year for suggesting that there was a slight chance Grundy could be traded out and he completely shut it down by stating he was contracted so it was impossible?

That was funny... 🤣

Your a bit late , thought you would of posted that weeks ago.

 

Just now, drysdale demon said:

Your a bit late , thought you would of posted that weeks ago.

 

Didn't want to embarrass you any further.

First Jackson and now this.

Eek..

Edited October 11, 20231 yr by dazzledavey36

5 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Didn't want to embarrass you any further.

First Jackson and now this.

Eek..

Embarresed, I never get embarressed about anything, you on the hand I could understand being very easily embarressed.

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

it is his F$&@ing Job. and yes Playing against his old side that kicked him out would have been a motivating factor. 

Good luck motivating someone to do something in which they simply have no interest, no matter the opposition.

Yes it’s his paid job. So, what are you gonna do? Play him because it’s your right to play him, regardless of what he wants? Do you think Goody is that foolish? 

I may be in the minority here but I think Sydney outmanoeuvred us in the Grundy deal. I expect he will show us next season that he is still an elite ruckman worth far more than they gave in return.

 

3 hours ago, layzie said:

Later Brodie. It's been real, sort of.

If some of the suggestions here that he checked out or refused to be picked are true then that is just poor on his part.

 

Good on you Layz. At least you’re willing to consider this as a possibility. People need to broaden their minds and quit making assumptions. 

Edited October 11, 20231 yr by WalkingCivilWar

19 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Good luck motivating someone to do something in which they simply have no interest, no matter the opposition.

Yes it’s his paid job. So, what are you gonna do? Play him because it’s your right to play him, regardless of what he wants? Do you think Goody is that foolish? 

Happens in world sports all the time (especially soccer) ... and people are the same all over

Once the player lays down the tools (or threatens to or is perceived to) then it's time to part company.  Other clubs make an offer and they're off (but in the AFL's case the move happens once the season is over) 

We haven't seen it much in footy as the bigger money and longer contracts is a more recent thing.  And breaking contracts is now becoming more prevalent

Welcome to pro sports, footy

My take on the Grundy move is that he was almost certainly told that his opportunities were limited (to learn forward craft (at Casey) in a short space of time for a veteran is a pipe dream) ... so that was the end of the relationship there and then

So he and his manager shop around in the season proper until the destination club emerges (Sydney) ... so they bide their time knowing that he won't be recalled to the senior side.  Why?  Because the relationship was already over

Edited October 11, 20231 yr by Macca

1 hour ago, drysdale demon said:

Embarresed, I never get embarressed about anything, you on the hand I could understand being very easily embarressed.

Yes, I certainly am for you on this part..

 

9 minutes ago, Dee-monic said:

I may be in the minority here but I think Sydney outmanoeuvred us in the Grundy deal. I expect he will show us next season that he is still an elite ruckman worth far more than they gave in return.

 

I expect so, too. He is still an elite ruckman but that alone clearly wasn’t enough to make it work… with us. I hope he goes well next season but I don’t look forward to hearing how we, through our mismanagement, let a great ruckman go. 

17 minutes ago, Dee-monic said:

I may be in the minority here but I think Sydney outmanoeuvred us in the Grundy deal. I expect he will show us next season that he is still an elite ruckman worth far more than they gave in return.

 

The only people who out manoeuvred us were .....ourselves  😉

All our own doing and ineptness.  

Good bye and good luck Brodie Grundy it sounded like it could work, one in the ruck one up forward, take a couple of marks kick a couple of goals. Sadly the experiment failed and Brodie has moved on. We have freed up $650k towards a replacement player we got back what we laid out, a wasted year and life goes on. No good sooking about it Or getting angry with each other none of us know what actually caused the breakdown .!!!

2 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Really? I thought I was making it clear without actually having to say it.

Consider this: it’s not beyond the realm of possibility that a player makes himself unavailable for selection. I’m not saying that’s what’s happened in the case of our semifinal. I’m just asking that you entertain the possibility that that’s what may’ve happened. That selfsame player might’ve already decided his future wasn’t with us. But it seems fans have automatically deemed this a choice entirely made by the Club. 

Thanks for clarifying

1 hour ago, Dee-monic said:

I may be in the minority here but I think Sydney outmanoeuvred us in the Grundy deal. I expect he will show us next season that he is still an elite ruckman worth far more than they gave in return.

 

if it is to be it is up to he

3 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

You would’ve FORCED him to play? You can lead a horse to water etc. 

 

3 hours ago, Demonstone said:

I believe the saying is "You can lead a horse to drink but you can't make him water".

 

2 hours ago, DeeMee said:

I thought it was “you can lead a [censored] to culture but can’t make her think” Dorothy Parker.

I run with “when you don’t lead a [censored] horse to water, the stupid thing will eventually get thirsty”. 

Please change thread title to "Farewell Brodie Grundy, we barely knew ye."