1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

I get why we didn’t play him. If we’d held on no one would have cared about it. I think we would have got more out of him than TMac, but I still get the thinking  

I don’t know if I’ll ever get why we played Schache as sub but didn’t use him, though.

Cause TMac was about to explode.

 

Edited September 15, 20232 yr by Fork 'em

Farewell Grundy. I don’t think we handled this situation well but I understand why we got him. 
I wish him the very best. 

I think it’s fantastic we got Grundy back on the park, so his trade value should not diminish. Sydney will be a great cultural fit for him. We didn’t need Grundy. He was as surplus to needs, as all the points we kicked tonight. This club needs an overhaul. It’s ridiculous.

One of the all time recruiting blunders under Goodwins coaching tenure. 

Stevie Wonder could see that it was never going to work with two genuine number 1 rucks in the one team.

Get whatever compo we can for Grundy and learn from this lesson.

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

One of the all time recruiting blunders under Goodwins coaching tenure. 

Stevie Wonder could see that it was never going to work with two genuine number 1 rucks in the one team.

Get whatever compo we can for Grundy and learn from this lesson.

The "learning" might be to change the coach

4 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

I think it’s fantastic we got Grundy back on the park, so his trade value should not diminish. Sydney will be a great cultural fit for him. We didn’t need Grundy. He was as surplus to needs, as all the points we kicked tonight. This club needs an overhaul. It’s ridiculous.

Grundy would have been better than TMac  last night..he could have come on fresh at 3/4  time and they likely would have won it

5 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Farewell Grundy. I don’t think we handled this situation well but I understand why we got him. 
I wish him the very best. 

He's been all class .

Big pay packet and getting back in the game,ready for a new finals campaign with a well coached Club 

 

Win win for him

23 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

One of the all time recruiting blunders under Goodwins coaching tenure. 

Stevie Wonder could see that it was never going to work with two genuine number 1 rucks in the one team.

Get whatever compo we can for Grundy and learn from this lesson.

Is that a learning Daz?

He actually used the word ‘learnings’ at his presser last night too. I have no words.

8 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

We shouldn't have given him another contract.

We didn't trust him to be better than Tommy Mc. That's hardly a surprise.

3/4 time, you know you need 10 minutes out of a tall. 5 in the ruck. 5 forward. Do you stick with Tom McDonald or bring on Schache. I'm sticking with Tom McDonald.

Based on their careers, sure. 

But based on the first three quarters last night, Schache.

8 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

Farewell Grundy. I don’t think we handled this situation well but I understand why we got him. 
I wish him the very best. 

Yep.. thanks Brodie.  You handle yourself with class and aplomb. Good luck.

There is more to the Grundy story than we know.

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

One of the all time recruiting blunders under Goodwins coaching tenure. 

Stevie Wonder could see that it was never going to work with two genuine number 1 rucks in the one team.

Get whatever compo we can for Grundy and learn from this lesson.

Agreed. It was a huge risk - reward.  It was over hyped imv and not managed at all. Gawn was your All Australian ruck and we somehow thought he needed more time in forward 50 to play 50% in the ruck. WTF. Sure we needed some backup ruck in case Gawn was injured who could be forward/ruck role. Grundy was never that.  

1 hour ago, Ugottobekidding said:

There is more to the Grundy story than we know.

That’s exactly what I’ve been saying for a while… it’ll come out one way or another eventually. In my view, without any in-house knowledge, I suspect there was a massive personality clash with someone important at the club (likely to be either the coach or the captain - quite possibly the latter). The media stuff was all drivel, they always have to say the positive optimistic stuff.

I deleted my instagram not long ago but you can see by that, the changes in Grundy. I followed him. He’s a frequent user/poster. The only club stuff he was posting was him and Choco together, even catch ups with old Collingwood teammates… compare that to earlier in the season, a massive change.

 

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This has probably been explained, but when Brody goes to the Swans , do we get a pick from them?

19 minutes ago, Dingo said:

This has probably been explained, but when Brody goes to the Swans , do we get a pick from them?

Depends if we are contributing to his wage. I suspect if we did, then Pick 11 could be in the works.

3 hours ago, Dingo said:

This has probably been explained, but when Brody goes to the Swans , do we get a pick from them?

I’d think the best we could hope for is currently Pick 22, which Hawthorn traded to Sydney.

We wouldn’t be paying any salary, whilst Collingwood would still be making their contribution.

The upside is that an additional second round pick may be more enticing to Gold Coast looking to load up on picks for their academy lads.

 

 

Well documented but will the club ever explain what went wrong this disastrous trade & why he was tried with all of our fwds going down and why not used as a sub for a back up if Gawn went down instead of Shache ???

2 hours ago, Demonsone said:

Well documented but will the club ever explain what went wrong this disastrous trade & why he was tried with all of our fwds going down and why not used as a sub for a back up if Gawn went down instead of Shache ???

Ask 1000 people, who is a better footballer,  Grundy or Schache, 1001 will say Grundy. Definitely something had occurred that we, as yet, don't know. Very, very sad.

No shots on the big screen last night, in contrast to the QF.

Put that in the Conspiracy Cocktail.

19 hours ago, KingDingAling said:

Depends if we are contributing to his wage. I suspect if we did, then Pick 11 could be in the works.

Pick 11? No one is paying pick 11 for Grundy.

9 hours ago, Palace Dees said:

Ask 1000 people, who is a better footballer,  Grundy or Schache, 1001 will say Grundy. Definitely something had occurred that we, as yet, don't know. Very, very sad.

Goodwin said Schache was the sub only if Gawn got injured, unbelievable obviously a falling out with Grundy and not valued by him a complete 360 by the coach, frankly not acceptable if this is the case 

Edited September 16, 20232 yr by Demonsone

22 hours ago, Great Northern Summer said:

That’s exactly what I’ve been saying for a while… it’ll come out one way or another eventually. In my view, without any in-house knowledge, I suspect there was a massive personality clash with someone important at the club (likely to be either the coach or the captain - quite possibly the latter). The media stuff was all drivel, they always have to say the positive optimistic stuff.

I deleted my instagram not long ago but you can see by that, the changes in Grundy. I followed him. He’s a frequent user/poster. The only club stuff he was posting was him and Choco together, even catch ups with old Collingwood teammates… compare that to earlier in the season, a massive change.

 

Another complete fiasco by a club that has made many in the past

its a circus sometimes no wonder the media are so negative about us we are experts at shots to the foot. BTW tried to watch a replay this morning in the cold light of day

I found it unwatchable in the number of basic errors and slack playing that were in evidence

The game plan doesnt stack up and we are far too defensive

 

10 hours ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

No shots on the big screen last night, in contrast to the QF.

Put that in the Conspiracy Cocktail.

Probably because he wasn’t at the ground. On ‘gardening leave’ already.

I can't but think more will come out about this.