There's a lot of talk about the players but I think the coaches need to lift.  They need to find a way to combat the faster ball movement from the opposition.

3 hours ago, deebunked said:

Disappointed with Lloyd. Been one of the few media believers all season.Whats he talking about? Premiership teams are never decided in July FFS.He knows that. The media is just a corrupt joke. They were talking about Pies possibly winning the flag last week. They barely got over the line against North.

 

Exactly as Nathan Brown said. I remember Lloyd saying the same thing this time last year. 

7 minutes ago, SPC said:

Can’t really disagree with Lloyd. Besides the Lions game we have been putrid for a while. On todays form, Lions are not a great benchmark.

Having said that, we can turn it around quickly. I think some personal changes help. I’d bring Hunt back, Laurie and Van Rooyen to come back in. I’d also look at Rivers to return down back.

Salem to move to mid/forward this week. 
Bedford out, Bowey out, Oliver out and perhaps Spargo. 

Didn't Lions have about 9 players out due to covid/ injuries?

This forward line just isn't working.

Assuming Bedford out who goes in

Weideman... maybe... but he has been given multiple chances

JVR... I would have said not this year but we're desperate and he had a very good game in the wet against Geelong

Chandler......is there enough upside

Laurie... could be a bolter but I'm not sure

Another thought.. play Petracca 70% forward (but who do you put in the middle especially this coming weekend if Oliver is out... Brayshaw?)

On 7/8/2022 at 10:06 AM, Fat Tony said:

I will reiterate my call for Hunt to be played as a forward. Hunt is a proven goal kicker and our small forwards are getting out marked too often and Hunt will give a better aerial contest than ANB, Spargo and Bedford.

Hunt is not a forward

5 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

The week off before finals means form can turnaround quickly. Why do the shock jocks (QD inserts 'Lloyd' here for clarity in his response) make such stupid definitive statements?

Here is one answer FT.

Matthew Lloyd's primary job is to make money for the entity in which he is working. These entities only have one primary objective . . . to make money.  And this is done by selling advertising. And advertisers are only interested in one thing . . . eyeballs. So what does this mean?

Shock jokes need to shock because that is what attracts eyeballs. Lloyd can actually analyse an individual game pretty well with his magic screen and pointer, but he has zero, absolutely nada, ability to connect the dots into a broader narrative which creates understanding. So what we are left with is the first and last thought that ran through his brain in the last 30 minutes. And why does Lloyd operate like this? I would suggest that he has at least $1M reasons. 

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1 hour ago, SPC said:

Can’t really disagree with Lloyd. Besides the Lions game we have been putrid for a while. On todays form, Lions are not a great benchmark.

Having said that, we can turn it around quickly. I think some personal changes help. I’d bring Hunt back, Laurie and Van Rooyen to come back in. I’d also look at Rivers to return down back.

Salem to move to mid/forward this week. 
Bedford out, Bowey out, Oliver out and perhaps Spargo. 

The Lions had 9 players out today due to covid and injury, so do not compare that side to the one we demolished 3 weeks ago 

4 hours ago, deebunked said:

Disappointed with Lloyd. Been one of the few media believers all season.Whats he talking about? Premiership teams are never decided in July FFS.He knows that.

I agree with everything Lloyd said.  Of course premiership aren't won in July, so he's saying that our current form and the way we're playing is not good enough to win it,  and that's true.

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1 hour ago, one_demon said:

I agree with everything Lloyd said.  Of course premiership aren't won in July, so he's saying that our current form and the way we're playing is not good enough to win it,  and that's true.

That is pretty smart of him and you.

2 hours ago, loges said:

Didn't Lions have about 9 players out due to covid/ injuries?

Yes they did, but still should have enough quality to account for Essendon at home you would think. Also- the game in which we beat them was at the MCG, where they haven’t won for a long time. Since before Mitch Robinson had a rats tail I believe. 

4 minutes ago, SPC said:

Yes they did, but still should have enough quality to account for Essendon at home you would think. Also- the game in which we beat them was at the MCG, where they haven’t won for a long time. Since before Mitch Robinson had a rats tail I believe. 

9 players out can cause a fair amount of disruption in their performance though.

32 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

That is pretty smart of him and you.

Thank you

2 hours ago, one_demon said:

I agree with everything Lloyd said.  Of course premiership aren't won in July, so he's saying that our current form and the way we're playing is not good enough to win it,  and that's true.

Lots were saying the same thing last year at this time 

9 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Lots were saying the same thing last year at this time 

Agreed.  I think we can still turn it around

51 minutes ago, SPC said:

Yes they did, but still should have enough quality to account for Essendon at home you would think. Also- the game in which we beat them was at the MCG, where they haven’t won for a long time. Since before Mitch Robinson had a rats tail I believe. 

No I wouldn't think with half a team out no,

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3 hours ago, Demons11 said:

Hunt is not a forward

Kicked 4 against Essendon a few years back

2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Kicked 4 against Essendon a few years back

The last full (shortened) game he played forward as well. 

10 hours ago, loges said:

No I wouldn't think with half a team out no,

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That's bull [censored]. Still got a Brownlow medalist out there and a very good team.

1 minute ago, BenF said:

That's bull [censored]. Still got a Brownlow medalist out there and a very good team.

9 players out is literally half of that very good team. 

14 hours ago, one_demon said:

There's a lot of talk about the players but I think the coaches need to lift.  They need to find a way to combat the faster ball movement from the opposition.

It looks like the coaches believe what the commentators were saying about MFC's unbeatable brilliance and that the "big" Coach still doesn't believe in having a Plan B.

Anyway never mind," Landers" have it under control. 

We have been loading for 10 weeks  and once the umpires and Selwood stop cheating we will be Premiers again. 

Perhaps we just need Bluey to organise Cake Morton to coach the mids to tweak the system.

 

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I'm not too fussed with what Lloyd said. It can be hard to fill 2 hrs of TV when you aren't clowning around with videos and silly handball contests.

1 hour ago, BenF said:

That's bull [censored]. Still got a Brownlow medalist out there and a very good team.

Strange why the coaches say you only have to be 5% off and you'll get beaten, go figure. Go and think about your own bull.

19 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

Would love to hear what he had to say after we lost to the Dogs last year.

I don't bet, but if I did I'd put money on him having said the same thing.

15 hours ago, SPC said:

Can’t really disagree with Lloyd. Besides the Lions game we have been putrid for a while. On todays form, Lions are not a great benchmark.

Having said that, we can turn it around quickly. I think some personal changes help. I’d bring Hunt back, Laurie and Van Rooyen to come back in. I’d also look at Rivers to return down back.

Salem to move to mid/forward this week. 
Bedford out, Bowey out, Oliver out and perhaps Spargo. 

12 hours ago, SPC said:

Yes they did, but still should have enough quality to account for Essendon at home you would think. Also- the game in which we beat them was at the MCG, where they haven’t won for a long time. Since before Mitch Robinson had a rats tail I believe. 

The same Essendon who beat Sydney last week and St Kilda two weeks before that?

As much as we might all hate to say it, and it's actually good news for us, but Essendon is in form right now.

Brisbane had 9 changes from their side last week. There are few opponents right now who you could have that level of disruption and not be affected.

23 hours ago, Call Me What You Will said:

Just a thought - Gus into the middle to replace Clarry. Rivers in to back fill half back. Some merit in the “mass changes” mooted in the thread. However, do not think selection carnage is the way to go - one or two would be good to make a statement - and yes JVR or Laurie or both might make the point. 

This is a great, great call. 0 % chance of Goodwin doing this though. It is such an obvious move, but i bet it'll be Harmes or Dunstan to cover if Oliver goes out. 

This is the Changes Demons thread?

maybe keep the Lions/Lloyd BS out of it?