Jump to content

CHANGES: Rd 18 vs Port Adelaide

Demonland
in Melbourne Demons

Featured Replies

There's a lot of talk about the players but I think the coaches need to lift.  They need to find a way to combat the faster ball movement from the opposition.

    • Like 11
    • Thanks 2
     
    3 hours ago, deebunked said:

    Disappointed with Lloyd. Been one of the few media believers all season.Whats he talking about? Premiership teams are never decided in July FFS.He knows that. The media is just a corrupt joke. They were talking about Pies possibly winning the flag last week. They barely got over the line against North.

     

    Exactly as Nathan Brown said. I remember Lloyd saying the same thing this time last year. 

    • Like 2
    7 minutes ago, SPC said:

    Can’t really disagree with Lloyd. Besides the Lions game we have been putrid for a while. On todays form, Lions are not a great benchmark.

    Having said that, we can turn it around quickly. I think some personal changes help. I’d bring Hunt back, Laurie and Van Rooyen to come back in. I’d also look at Rivers to return down back.

    Salem to move to mid/forward this week. 
    Bedford out, Bowey out, Oliver out and perhaps Spargo. 

    Didn't Lions have about 9 players out due to covid/ injuries?

    • Like 2
     

    This forward line just isn't working.

    Assuming Bedford out who goes in

    Weideman... maybe... but he has been given multiple chances

    JVR... I would have said not this year but we're desperate and he had a very good game in the wet against Geelong

    Chandler......is there enough upside

    Laurie... could be a bolter but I'm not sure

    Another thought.. play Petracca 70% forward (but who do you put in the middle especially this coming weekend if Oliver is out... Brayshaw?)

    • Like 1
    • Sad 1
    On 7/8/2022 at 10:06 AM, Fat Tony said:

    I will reiterate my call for Hunt to be played as a forward. Hunt is a proven goal kicker and our small forwards are getting out marked too often and Hunt will give a better aerial contest than ANB, Spargo and Bedford.

    Hunt is not a forward


    5 hours ago, Fat Tony said:

    The week off before finals means form can turnaround quickly. Why do the shock jocks (QD inserts 'Lloyd' here for clarity in his response) make such stupid definitive statements?

    Here is one answer FT.

    Matthew Lloyd's primary job is to make money for the entity in which he is working. These entities only have one primary objective . . . to make money.  And this is done by selling advertising. And advertisers are only interested in one thing . . . eyeballs. So what does this mean?

    Shock jokes need to shock because that is what attracts eyeballs. Lloyd can actually analyse an individual game pretty well with his magic screen and pointer, but he has zero, absolutely nada, ability to connect the dots into a broader narrative which creates understanding. So what we are left with is the first and last thought that ran through his brain in the last 30 minutes. And why does Lloyd operate like this? I would suggest that he has at least $1M reasons. 

    Edited by Queanbeyan Demon
    Typo

    • Haha 1
    1 hour ago, SPC said:

    Can’t really disagree with Lloyd. Besides the Lions game we have been putrid for a while. On todays form, Lions are not a great benchmark.

    Having said that, we can turn it around quickly. I think some personal changes help. I’d bring Hunt back, Laurie and Van Rooyen to come back in. I’d also look at Rivers to return down back.

    Salem to move to mid/forward this week. 
    Bedford out, Bowey out, Oliver out and perhaps Spargo. 

    The Lions had 9 players out today due to covid and injury, so do not compare that side to the one we demolished 3 weeks ago 

    • Like 3
    4 hours ago, deebunked said:

    Disappointed with Lloyd. Been one of the few media believers all season.Whats he talking about? Premiership teams are never decided in July FFS.He knows that.

    I agree with everything Lloyd said.  Of course premiership aren't won in July, so he's saying that our current form and the way we're playing is not good enough to win it,  and that's true.

    Edited by one_demon

    • Like 6
     
    1 hour ago, one_demon said:

    I agree with everything Lloyd said.  Of course premiership aren't won in July, so he's saying that our current form and the way we're playing is not good enough to win it,  and that's true.

    That is pretty smart of him and you.

    • Like 1
    2 hours ago, loges said:

    Didn't Lions have about 9 players out due to covid/ injuries?

    Yes they did, but still should have enough quality to account for Essendon at home you would think. Also- the game in which we beat them was at the MCG, where they haven’t won for a long time. Since before Mitch Robinson had a rats tail I believe. 

    • Haha 1

    4 minutes ago, SPC said:

    Yes they did, but still should have enough quality to account for Essendon at home you would think. Also- the game in which we beat them was at the MCG, where they haven’t won for a long time. Since before Mitch Robinson had a rats tail I believe. 

    9 players out can cause a fair amount of disruption in their performance though.

    • Like 2
    2 hours ago, one_demon said:

    I agree with everything Lloyd said.  Of course premiership aren't won in July, so he's saying that our current form and the way we're playing is not good enough to win it,  and that's true.

    Lots were saying the same thing last year at this time 

    • Like 1
    9 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

    Lots were saying the same thing last year at this time 

    Agreed.  I think we can still turn it around

    • Like 1
    51 minutes ago, SPC said:

    Yes they did, but still should have enough quality to account for Essendon at home you would think. Also- the game in which we beat them was at the MCG, where they haven’t won for a long time. Since before Mitch Robinson had a rats tail I believe. 

    No I wouldn't think with half a team out no,

    .

    • Like 1

    3 hours ago, Demons11 said:

    Hunt is not a forward

    Kicked 4 against Essendon a few years back

    2 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

    Kicked 4 against Essendon a few years back

    The last full (shortened) game he played forward as well. 

    10 hours ago, loges said:

    No I wouldn't think with half a team out no,

    .

    That's bull [censored]. Still got a Brownlow medalist out there and a very good team.

    1 minute ago, BenF said:

    That's bull [censored]. Still got a Brownlow medalist out there and a very good team.

    9 players out is literally half of that very good team. 

    • Like 2
    14 hours ago, one_demon said:

    There's a lot of talk about the players but I think the coaches need to lift.  They need to find a way to combat the faster ball movement from the opposition.

    It looks like the coaches believe what the commentators were saying about MFC's unbeatable brilliance and that the "big" Coach still doesn't believe in having a Plan B.

    Anyway never mind," Landers" have it under control. 

    We have been loading for 10 weeks  and once the umpires and Selwood stop cheating we will be Premiers again. 

    Perhaps we just need Bluey to organise Cake Morton to coach the mids to tweak the system.

     

    Edited by IRW

    • Vomit 2

    I'm not too fussed with what Lloyd said. It can be hard to fill 2 hrs of TV when you aren't clowning around with videos and silly handball contests.

    1 hour ago, BenF said:

    That's bull [censored]. Still got a Brownlow medalist out there and a very good team.

    Strange why the coaches say you only have to be 5% off and you'll get beaten, go figure. Go and think about your own bull.

    19 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

     

    Would love to hear what he had to say after we lost to the Dogs last year.

    I don't bet, but if I did I'd put money on him having said the same thing.

    15 hours ago, SPC said:

    Can’t really disagree with Lloyd. Besides the Lions game we have been putrid for a while. On todays form, Lions are not a great benchmark.

    Having said that, we can turn it around quickly. I think some personal changes help. I’d bring Hunt back, Laurie and Van Rooyen to come back in. I’d also look at Rivers to return down back.

    Salem to move to mid/forward this week. 
    Bedford out, Bowey out, Oliver out and perhaps Spargo. 

    12 hours ago, SPC said:

    Yes they did, but still should have enough quality to account for Essendon at home you would think. Also- the game in which we beat them was at the MCG, where they haven’t won for a long time. Since before Mitch Robinson had a rats tail I believe. 

    The same Essendon who beat Sydney last week and St Kilda two weeks before that?

    As much as we might all hate to say it, and it's actually good news for us, but Essendon is in form right now.

    Brisbane had 9 changes from their side last week. There are few opponents right now who you could have that level of disruption and not be affected.

    • Like 1
     
    23 hours ago, Call Me What You Will said:

    Just a thought - Gus into the middle to replace Clarry. Rivers in to back fill half back. Some merit in the “mass changes” mooted in the thread. However, do not think selection carnage is the way to go - one or two would be good to make a statement - and yes JVR or Laurie or both might make the point. 

    This is a great, great call. 0 % chance of Goodwin doing this though. It is such an obvious move, but i bet it'll be Harmes or Dunstan to cover if Oliver goes out. 

    This is the Changes Demons thread?

    maybe keep the Lions/Lloyd BS out of it?


    Guest
    This topic is now closed to further replies.
    Go to topic listing

    Featured Content

    • NON-MFC: Round 13

      Follow all the action from every Round 13 clash excluding the Dees as the 2025 AFL Premiership Season rolls on. With Melbourne playing in the final match of the round on King's Birthday, all eyes turn to the rest of the competition. Who are you tipping to win? And more importantly, which results best serve the Demons’ finals aspirations? Join the discussion and keep track of the matches that could shape the ladder and impact our run to September.

        • Thanks
        • Like
      • 39 replies
      Demonland

    • PREVIEW: Collingwood

      Having convincingly defeated last year’s premier and decisively outplayed the runner-up with 8.2 in the final quarter, nothing epitomized the Melbourne Football Club’s performance more than its 1.12 final half, particularly the eight consecutive behinds in the last term, against a struggling St Kilda team in the midst of a dismal losing streak. Just when stability and consistency were anticipated within the Demon ranks, they delivered a quintessential performance marked by instability and ill-conceived decisions, with the most striking aspect being their inaccuracy in kicking for goal, which suggested a lack of preparation (instead of sleeping in their hotel in Alice, were they having a night on the turps) rather than a well-rested team. Let’s face it - this kicking disease that makes them look like raw amateurs is becoming a millstone around the team’s neck.

      • 1 reply
      Demonland

    • CASEY: Sydney

      The Casey Demons were always expected to emerge victorious in their matchup against the lowly-ranked Sydney Swans at picturesque Tramway Oval, situated in the shadows of the SCG in Moore Park. They dominated the proceedings in the opening two and a half quarters of the game but had little to show for it. This was primarily due to their own sloppy errors in a low-standard game that produced a number of crowded mauls reminiscent of the rugby game popular in old Sydney Town. However, when the Swans tired, as teams often do when they turn games into ugly defensive contests, Casey lifted the standard of its own play and … it was off to the races. Not to nearby Randwick but to a different race with an objective of piling on goal after goal on the way to a mammoth victory. At the 25-minute mark of the third quarter, the Demons held a slender 14-point lead over the Swans, who are ahead on the ladder of only the previous week's opposition, the ailing Bullants. Forty minutes later, they had more than fully compensated for the sloppiness of their earlier play with a decisive 94-point victory, that culminated in a rousing finish which yielded thirteen unanswered goals. Kicks hit their targets, the ball found itself going through the middle and every player made a contribution.

      • 1 reply
      Demonland

    • REPORT: St. Kilda

      Hands up if you thought, like me, at half-time in yesterday’s game at TIO Traeger Park, Alice Springs that Melbourne’s disposal around the ground and, in particular, its kicking inaccuracy in front of the goals couldn’t get any worse. Well, it did. And what’s even more damning for the Melbourne Football Club is that the game against St Kilda and its resurgence from the bottomless pit of its miserable start to the season wasn’t just lost through poor conversion for goal but rather in the 15 minutes when the entire team went into a slumber and was mugged by the out-of-form Saints. Their six goals two behinds (one goal less than the Demons managed for the whole game) weaved a path of destruction from which they were unable to recover. Ross Lyon’s astute use of pressure to contain the situation once they had asserted their grip on the game, and Melbourne’s self-destructive wastefulness, assured that outcome. The old adage about the insanity of repeatedly doing something and expecting a different result, was out there. Two years ago, the score line in Melbourne’s loss to the Giants at this same ground was 5 goals 15 behinds - a ratio of one goal per four scoring shots - was perfectly replicated with yesterday’s 7 goals 21 behinds. 
      This has been going on for a while and opens up a number of questions. I’ll put forward a few that come to mind from this performance. The obvious first question is whether the club can find a suitable coach to instruct players on proper kicking techniques or is this a skill that can no longer be developed at this stage of the development of our playing group? Another concern is the team's ability to counter an opponent's dominance during a run on as exemplified by the Saints in the first quarter. Did the Demons underestimate their opponents, considering St Kilda's goals during this period were scored by relatively unknown forwards? Furthermore, given the modest attendance of 6,721 at TIO Traeger Park and the team's poor past performances at this venue, is it prudent to prioritize financial gain over potentially sacrificing valuable premiership points by relinquishing home ground advantage, notwithstanding the cultural significance of the team's connection to the Red Centre? 

      • 4 replies
      Demonland

    • PREGAME: Collingwood

      After a disappointing loss in Alice Springs the Demons return to the MCG to take on the Magpies in the annual King's Birthday Big Freeze for MND game. Who comes in and who goes out?

        • Like
      • 262 replies
      Demonland

    • PODCAST: St. Kilda

      The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 2nd June @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we have a chat with former Demon ruckman Jeff White about his YouTube channel First Use where he dissects ruck setups and contests. We'll then discuss the Dees disappointing loss to the Saints in Alice Springs.
      Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show.
      Listen LIVE: https://demonland.com/

        • Clap
      • 47 replies
      Demonland
    View All