3 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Why would we go after an inside mid when Brayshaw can't get a game there.

Bruhn will help our sal cap but we have a bunch of players competing for that spot and a few more yet to debut.

He'd be an upgrade on Sparrow.

Just now, dazzledavey36 said:

He'd be an upgrade on Sparrow.

That would only work if Sparrow left, which isn't likely.

Just not sure we need another inside mid.  Can think of other list priorities.

4 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

That would only work if Sparrow left, which isn't likely.

Just not sure we need another inside mid.  Can think of other list priorities.

We have a healthy and talented list. Outside of a tall forward in their prime - any recruitment isn’t going to ‘needs based’ but you have to do it.

10 hours ago, DubDee said:

Ward might retire? Still some quality players in the midfield. Not much down back or fwd. and Kelly & Whitfield should be dominating right now and they are far from it. Something smells there

I hope we’re putting work into getting Finn Callaghan back from GWS, he still hasn’t extended his initial 2 year deal, due to come out next year. Would probably have some interest in playing alongside his lifelong best mate in Blake Howes.

1 minute ago, ChaserJ said:

I hope we’re putting work into getting Finn Callaghan back from GWS, he still hasn’t extended his initial 2 year deal, due to come out next year. Would probably have some interest in playing alongside his lifelong best mate in Blake Howes.

I was hoping the same with Josh Kelly and Salem a while back.....

Ah well

3 minutes ago, ChaserJ said:

I hope we’re putting work into getting Finn Callaghan back from GWS, he still hasn’t extended his initial 2 year deal, due to come out next year. Would probably have some interest in playing alongside his lifelong best mate in Blake Howes.

Glad you brought this up. With the exodus about to occur at the Giants they would be pretty nervous with this one especially as he hasn't signed the contract extension that's already been offered to him.

 

Finn Callaghan would cost a lot in terms of pick/player swap. Is he outside or inside?

The saying goes that a team can never have enough mids, but I think our priority should be an established KPF

Maybe we can do both. If, if Dogga and Gus leave we might have the picks and cap space to fill one or two of our desperate needs: a quality KPF, a classy outside mid and/or a developing ruck

One thing I know for sure, we are a destination club with excellent draft and recruitment staff. We won't die wondering

3 minutes ago, Stiff Arm said:

Finn Callaghan would cost a lot in terms of pick/player swap. Is he outside or inside?

The saying goes that a team can never have enough mids, but I think our priority should be an established KPF

Maybe we can do both. If, if Dogga and Gus leave we might have the picks and cap space to fill one or two of our desperate needs: a quality KPF, a classy outside mid and/or a developing ruck

One thing I know for sure, we are a destination club with excellent draft and recruitment staff. We won't die wondering

He's a bit of both. He's similar to Bontempelli in terms of playing style.

I agree that a gun KPF would be ideal, but unfortunately there isn't any quality out there that's available. 

If it was me, I'd be bold and offer a truck load to Max King from the Saints. He's playing like a guy that's clearly frustrated and the Saints are about to go balls deep with their list.

Their  age demographic and list management is poor, and I can see a significant decline over the next few years.

1 hour ago, Lucifers Hero said:

That would only work if Sparrow left, which isn't likely.

Just not sure we need another inside mid.  Can think of other list priorities.

Our midfield depth is a media myth

We're too light for rotations (assuming brayshaw never plays in the guts again)

Our second tier mids in Sparrow and Harmes are among the worst in the comp 

Rate Jordon but he's a utility sort you can put anywhere and is unlikely to be a starting centebounce midfielder 

1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He's a bit of both. He's similar to Bontempelli in terms of playing style.

I agree that a gun KPF would be ideal, but unfortunately there isn't any quality out there that's available. 

If it was me, I'd be bold and offer a truck load to Max King from the Saints. He's playing like a guy that's clearly frustrated and the Saints are about to go balls deep with their list.

Their  age demographic and list management is poor, and I can see a significant decline over the next few years.

That's a big call DD36, I like it!

Imagine King, BBB and Tmac vying for KPF spots...

Would have to be over $1mill for at least 5 years. Do we have that cap space?

Would think that Lobb and Meek as part of a Dogga deal might be closer to the mark.

Lobb + Meek + '22 or '23 first rounder for Jackson (i know... wait for 'Land to explode), which perhaps leaves us to find picks or player swaps for a classy mid

9 minutes ago, adonski said:

Our midfield depth is a media myth

We're too light for rotations (assuming brayshaw never plays in the guts again)

Our second tier mids in Sparrow and Harmes are among the worst in the comp 

Rate Jordon but he's a utility sort you can put anywhere and is unlikely to be a starting centebounce midfielder 

Really? Sparrow and Harmes amongst worst second tier mids in the comp?

That's rubbish

1 hour ago, ChaserJ said:

I hope we’re putting work into getting Finn Callaghan back from GWS, he still hasn’t extended his initial 2 year deal, due to come out next year. Would probably have some interest in playing alongside his lifelong best mate in Blake Howes.

No matter what happens with Dogga, I’d still be keen to ask the Swans about the availability of Haydn McLean.  Big bodied 197cm Forward/2nd Ruck. Good goalkicker, good mark.  Behind Franklin, McDonald and Reid as a forward. Behind Hickey and Ladhams as a ruck. Would appeal to us and brings physical presence.  

2 hours ago, ChaserJ said:

I hope we’re putting work into getting Finn Callaghan back from GWS, he still hasn’t extended his initial 2 year deal, due to come out next year. Would probably have some interest in playing alongside his lifelong best mate in Blake Howes.

a definite yes from me 

19 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

No matter what happens with Dogga, I’d still be keen to ask the Swans about the availability of Haydn McLean.  Big bodied 197cm Forward/2nd Ruck. Good goalkicker, good mark.  Behind Franklin, McDonald and Reid as a forward. Behind Hickey and Ladhams as a ruck. Would appeal to us and brings physical presence.  

He would be very handy for us and give Swans more cap room to sign Buddy and their stars.

4 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

He'd be an upgrade on Sparrow.

Sparrow teases at the moment. Not unlike Petracca 4 years ago in that he can have magical moments through his strength m/power and and then disappears quicker than Jimmy Hoffa. 

Don't have to go back any further than last week to see Harmes' and Sparrow's worth when the game was up for grabs. They would be most welcome additions to any midfield group. People really do offer up some tripe when sitting within arm's reach of a keyboard.

They play a different role to the pure accumulators... often lock down and run off!

Edited July 22, 20222 yr by waynewussell

we want picks.. minimum 2 first rounders. Of course we want a Tall forward, but ideally from Freo we want minimum 2 first round picks this year.

Edited July 22, 20222 yr by Demon3

6 minutes ago, Demon3 said:

we want picks.. minimum 2 first rounders. Of course we want a Tall forward, but ideally from Freo we want minimum 2 first round picks this year.

Agreed. If Dogga goes, we definitely want one pick within top 10, and one pick within top 16.  

Finn Callaghan would be a nice addition, has a booming kick. What's his contested marking like? At 192cm he could provide a nice marking option down the wing to help out Max.

3 hours ago, adonski said:

 

Our second tier mids in Sparrow and Harmes are among the worst in the comp 

 

WTF are you talking about?

That is absolute bollocks

Edited July 22, 20222 yr by Sir Why You Little

Three good players from a Prem side leaving according to Media Maggots.....wtf

2 minutes ago, willmoy said:

Three good players from a Prem side leaving according to Media Maggots.....wtf

They need to sell advertising space 

8 minutes ago, willmoy said:

Three good players from a Prem side leaving according to Media Maggots.....wtf

Who is the 3rd?

Sparrow and Harmes are going to go missing from time to time because we have a set midfield who dominate minutes in the middle.

Therefore, mids outside of the big 3 are always going to have another role that is their dominate role. It’s like the back up ruck - they have to be a good forward THEN a decent ruckman around the ground.

Same with the flankers that alternate into the midfield - they have to be good forwards AND good mids. That is such a hard trade off and makes any progression from Kozzi into the middle valuable and what ANB does for Petracca (blocking, defensive running) invaluable.