1 minute ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

Sorry about my obtuseness earlier, @Neil Crompton and @DeeZone. I was being a smart**** by obliquely linking @Demonstone's Latin shorthand to his conundrumming, claiming a gold and throwing to others for the silver and bronze (compounding my smart****dness). I then edited a Caro reference in as a lame afterthought to be on topic i.e. would Caro know 'QED'?

I'll stop myself there (having shown myself out...)

Haha Even with that explanation I still have no idea what you said.

41 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

Haha Even with that explanation I still have no idea what you said.

Roughly translated, it means "Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries".  I think.

29 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Roughly translated, it means "Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries".  I think.

Express-posting the gold back to you, DS.

Another lying/manipulative bit of journalism from Caro. They just keep coming. 
 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/789221/-it-is-so-far-from-the-truth-frustrated-ratten-defends-saints-pair?fbclid=IwAR2TCwP3jHedO84Yc5i8Mn9WRwX1XmaBgWnaJF82v6GvUOlhdcm3MWyXhX4

 

 

On 6/27/2022 at 3:19 PM, DeeZone said:

Lazy, unoriginal, slippery, repetitive, single minded and lacking memory and moral fibre.!!!

 

On 6/27/2022 at 6:10 PM, He de mon said:

Sounds like my old school reports.

 🤔 Your teachers thought you were slippery??!!

12 minutes ago, 1964_2 said:

Another lying/manipulative bit of journalism from Caro. They just keep coming. 
 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/789221/-it-is-so-far-from-the-truth-frustrated-ratten-defends-saints-pair?fbclid=IwAR2TCwP3jHedO84Yc5i8Mn9WRwX1XmaBgWnaJF82v6GvUOlhdcm3MWyXhX4

 

 

She's not even mentioned in that article. 

11 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

 

 🤔 Your teachers thought you were slippery??!!

It was one of my many gift's.

I don’t rate Caro and I don’t rate 95% of AFL journalists. As much as I like Garry Lyon, when he knows more about footy and articulates it better the majority of other AFL journalists then you know you have a quality control issue. I mean Damien Barrett and Hutchy are appalling. That little worm that they parade on SEN in the morning that Garry and Tim fawn over, just awful. I think AFL journalism is generally sub par in Melbourne. I can’t speak for the other states.

1 hour ago, Demonstone said:

Roughly translated, it means "Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries".  I think.

“Now go and boil your bottom you silly English King”

”What a strange person”

”Is there someone else we can talk to”

Rattan is outraged at the thought Hilly and Paddy did anything other than walk out once voices raised. He is either completely right or he believes fervently the CCTV is unavailable.

Edited June 28, 20222 yr by Damo

29 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Your teachers thought you were slippery??!!

My teachers accused me of being a plagiarist.  Their words, not mine.

43 minutes ago, 1964_2 said:

Another lying/manipulative bit of journalism from Caro. They just keep coming. 
 

https://www.afl.com.au/news/789221/-it-is-so-far-from-the-truth-frustrated-ratten-defends-saints-pair?fbclid=IwAR2TCwP3jHedO84Yc5i8Mn9WRwX1XmaBgWnaJF82v6GvUOlhdcm3MWyXhX4

Sam McClure reported it and wrote about it.

 

27 minutes ago, He de mon said:

It was one of my many gift's.

unlike punctuation. 
soz, couldn’t resist. 🤭

Is Sam McClure the Field Marshal on SEN? Or is it Sam Edmund or someone else?  I can never remember?

Edited June 28, 20222 yr by Thehardtackler

2 hours ago, Demonstone said:

"Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries".

How did you know?

On 6/27/2022 at 12:54 PM, 1964_2 said:

Completely incorrect. Plenty of male journalists I don’t like. 

Know someone personally who was severely damaged by Caro’s “journalism”, and have watched her closely since, and seen her repeat the same style of manipulative content at the expense of people’s health/reputation etc on multiple occasions. 

The hypocrisy in her statements around Jordon De Goey is off the charts :- as the latest of many examples. 

 

When she reported on Ox's gambling issues she lost me, very grubby

Edited June 28, 20222 yr by Larry, Moe or Curly

1 hour ago, Lord Nev said:

Sam McClure reported it and wrote about it.

 

Correct and Caro incorrectly doubted the validity of the personal leave on footy classified last night. 
 

1 minute ago, 1964_2 said:

Correct and Caro incorrectly doubted the validity of the personal leave on footy classified last night. 
 

McClure literally reported the whole thing, made the insinuations, put out tweets, wrote articles, brought it up... But you're still gonna blame Caro? Come on mate, not doing your argument any favours there.

3 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

McClure literally reported the whole thing, made the insinuations, put out tweets, wrote articles, brought it up... But you're still gonna blame Caro? Come on mate, not doing your argument any favours there.

Fair call. No problems pinning that on McClure as well. He is no better.

Still think questioning someone lying about “personal leave” is extraordinarily hypocritical given her criticisms/opinions of others.

 

Edited June 28, 20222 yr by 1964_2

2 minutes ago, 1964_2 said:

Fair call. No problems pinning that on McClure as well. He is no better.

Still think questioning someone lying about “personal leave” is extraordinarily hypocritical given her criticisms/opinions of others.

Yeah I'm with you on the personal leave stuff, have heard both Ratten and Lethlean talk about it and the undertones are that he's going through some stuff. I just blame McClure for it given he broke the story and chose to go with that angle.

Even the Caro-haters I'm sure would choose one of her articles over one of McClure's tho....

Why is the media put on such a pedestal when it unceasingly and deliberately does so much mortal damage to the community?

On 6/25/2022 at 10:53 AM, Maldonboy38 said:

She can be a great journalist. She knows her trade, is uncompromising when she is following a story, and obviously has very strong contacts throughout the industry. All this developed in a world where the men in suits would have despised her as a woman being so strong, persistent and articulate.

But she makes the same mistake most modern sport journalists make: she reports rumour. She probably tries to substantiate it, but too often (maybe 2 out of every 7 "scoops") she will say stuff like "word out of Collingwood today", "or "there's a lot of talk at Essendon" etc...

Modern journalists must stop reporting rumour, suggestion, grievance and opinion as fact. If it is a rumour, let it be silent unless something gives it solid credibility. 

As l said earlier in this thread, Caro has been a good AFL journalist, but has passed her “use by date”. Nothing better illustrates this than her increasing tendency for partisanship when it comes to Richmond (and her bias against the MFC). Indon’t think she can stand the thought that we just might be becoming an AFL. Superpower, more powerful than Richmond ever were, hence her coverage of thing MFC is consistently biased and offensive. 

17 hours ago, Demonstone said:

Roughly translated, it means "Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries".  I think.

Alas, the platform we are on precludes farts being wafted in your general direction.

I can't stand the gossip columnists like Tom Browne and his ilk. But I don't count them as journalists (I have never been a Sam McClure fan, but at least he is a journalist)

But I don't get the angst towards proper journalists. It is their job to report news and if they can create noise all the better.

Why?

Because in the old speak, it sell papers. This has been the case since the first newspaper rolled of the press in the 1800s.

Don't shoot the messenger. Shoot the editor if you must shoot someone, but the blame for rubbish like the sun's Bartlett crusade should be sheeted home to the owner and ultimately consumers.

If we stopped clicking they would stop reporting.

Edited June 29, 20222 yr by binman

I really don't know why people 'shoot the messenger' whether that messenger is Wilson or someone else.

They report what they are told so blame the people who are giving info to Wilson and others.  The 'leakers' are the ones who have an agenda.  If not why would they leak info about their club or players.

At least Wilson cross checks her info which is an AFL rarity.