NON-MFC: Round 13, 2022

[Sir Why You Little 36,972]

3 minutes ago, CYB said:

It’s not Noble. Well not entirely. The team has no culture and is devoid of leadership. They lack effort and intensity. The first thing any replacement coach would want to do is clean up the list again.

If Noble does go, I hope Yze doesn’t put his hat in the ring there. The Norf situation is only territory for successful coaches who know how to rebuild an entire club. Only coach I know that has the creds is Clarko. 

They need a real Coach who has a CV and respect, otherwise they are dead. 
It is Noble imo

[dees189227 12,373]

It's going to be a long 2nd half for the Roos fans. 

Know that feeling

[ucanchoose 1,816]

There are so few people it sounds like an indoor swimming pool

[faultydet 7,594]

Norf need pick 1 again. 

They need to get smashed to avoid conceding the spoon to an undeserving Eagles.

Pain before gain.

[Sir Why You Little 36,972]

3 minutes ago, faultydet said:

Norf need pick 1 again. 

They need to get smashed to avoid conceding the spoon to an undeserving Eagles.

Pain before gain.

Neither Nought or Meth Coke deserves Pick 1. Nought got rid of excellent players when there was no need. It was their own doing. 
Meth Coke are tanking. They still have a lot of talent. 
 

[gs77 4,052]

Horne-Francis absolutely goneski for a late forearm across the face of a GWS player after a kick. Has to be weeks surely.

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

17 minutes ago, gs77 said:

Horne-Francis absolutely goneski for a late forearm across the face of a GWS player after a kick. Has to be weeks surely.

He's quite the sniper.

Swinging round arm fist to chin, eyes on Kelly not the ball, and the kick had well and truly been completed. No chance he was doing anything but trying to hit Kelly

3 week min

[faultydet 7,594]

1 hour ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Neither Nought or Meth Coke deserves Pick 1. Nought got rid of excellent players when there was no need. It was their own doing. 
Meth Coke are tanking. They still have a lot of talent. 
 

True about the tanking. Agree with that.

I'd rather norf get the pick. I guess it's that simple.

[Sir Why You Little 36,972]

12 minutes ago, faultydet said:

True about the tanking. Agree with that.

I'd rather norf get the pick. I guess it's that simple.

Someone has to get it. I agree there. But i get angry at Nought for completely wasting our time 

They stripped there list way to sharply without any experienced replacements. 
It will be a horror show for any Number 1 draft pick to go there. Kids will want to drop down the order to avoid Arden Street 

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,772]

1 hour ago, gs77 said:

Horne-Francis absolutely goneski for a late forearm across the face of a GWS player after a kick. Has to be weeks surely.

1-2 for sure

[Nasher 33,607]

I honestly have no idea if Noble can coach, but no doubt he was handed a lemon. The Brad Scott regime flogged their ancient list within an inch of its life and left absolutely nothing coming through for the next generation (must be a Scott Bro thing, hopefully this is Geelong’s future), then they had two years under a coach who collapsed under the pressure. 

I love a bit of footy Schadenfreude (see above Geelong comment) but the North situation is past funny now. The league suffers when there are too many woefully uncompetitive teams, and despite having absolutely no love for North, I don’t want to see them go down the gurgler. 

[Bitter but optimistic 22,218]

2 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I honestly have no idea if Noble can coach, but no doubt he was handed a lemon. The Brad Scott regime flogged their ancient list within an inch of its life and left absolutely nothing coming through for the next generation (must be a Scott Bro thing, hopefully this is Geelong’s future), then they had two years under a coach who collapsed under the pressure. 

I love a bit of footy Schadenfreude (see above Geelong comment) but the North situation is past funny now. The league suffers when there are too many woefully uncompetitive teams, and despite having absolutely no love for North, I don’t want to see them go down the gurgler. 

I want to see them go to the Apple Isle !

[Nasher 33,607]

11 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

I want to see them go to the Apple Isle !

Why, what have you got against the Apple Isle?

[dees189227 12,373]

1 hour ago, gs77 said:

Horne-Francis absolutely goneski for a late forearm across the face of a GWS player after a kick. Has to be weeks surely.

Do you reckon he wants a few weeks off from playing in that team?

[Bitter but optimistic 22,218]

2 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Why, what have you got against the Apple Isle?

Hahaha! Yeah fair comment. I suppose sending Norf there would set Tassie footy back a few years.

[monoccular 17,413]

45 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I honestly have no idea if Noble can coach, but no doubt he was handed a lemon. The Brad Scott regime flogged their ancient list within an inch of its life and left absolutely nothing coming through for the next generation (must be a Scott Bro thing, hopefully this is Geelong’s future), then they had two years under a coach who collapsed under the pressure. 

I love a bit of footy Schadenfreude (see above Geelong comment) but the North situation is past funny now. The league suffers when there are too many woefully uncompetitive teams, and despite having absolutely no love for North, I don’t want to see them go down the gurgler. 

“The league suffers when there are too many woefully uncompetitive teams “ yet Gillon in his infinite wisdom wants to add yet another.  
No consideration of further diluting the talent pool, a more unfair schedule with rolling byes. Just another licence fee.  He will be the death of the competition. 

[DubDee 25,662]

2 hours ago, Stiff Arm said:

He's quite the sniper.

Swinging round arm fist to chin, eyes on Kelly not the ball, and the kick had well and truly been completed. No chance he was doing anything but trying to hit Kelly

3 week min

Was a Stiff Arm indeed!

agree with 3 weeks. It’s not the 80’s anymore

[DubDee 25,662]

3 hours ago, faultydet said:

Norf need pick 1 again. 

They need to get smashed to avoid conceding the spoon to an undeserving Eagles.

Pain before gain.

Irrelevant who gets pick one vs pick 2-4

history shows pick one is no advantage over picks 2-4 or greater. Look at Carlton 

[Queanbeyan Demon 6,836]

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

I honestly have no idea if Noble can coach, but no doubt he was handed a lemon. The Brad Scott regime flogged their ancient list within an inch of its life and left absolutely nothing coming through for the next generation (must be a Scott Bro thing, hopefully this is Geelong’s future), then they had two years under a coach who collapsed under the pressure. 

I love a bit of footy Schadenfreude (see above Geelong comment) but the North situation is past funny now. The league suffers when there are too many woefully uncompetitive teams, and despite having absolutely no love for North, I don’t want to see them go down the gurgler. 

It would be more accurate to call it the 'Ben Buckley Buggered' (BBB) regime Nasher. As I understand it, the facts are these:

• Scott told BBB when he arrived as Chair in 2017 that the list needed a significant overhaul and that Norf would need to drop down the ladder as older players were gradually moved on and new top 10 picks could come in.
• Scott wanted to trade out The Big Goldie as a first round pick was on the table from another club. At that stage it looked like the Big Braydon Preuss could take over the number one ruck role. Apparently Goldie was open to it.
• Scott told BBB and Carl Delena he'd squeezed as much out of the lemon as possible.

Norf's response was as follows:

• No way we can fall down the ladder and restock,
• The list isn't that bad,
• Goldie's not going anywhere,
• Rye's recons he can delivery preliminary finals.

BBB left the club looking like a war zone. And to think he was once considered a potential candidate to become CEO of the AFL.

[Nasher 33,607]

1 hour ago, Queanbeyan Demon said:

It would be more accurate to call it the 'Ben Buckley Buggered' (BBB) regime Nasher. As I understand it, the facts are these:

• Scott told BBB when he arrived as Chair in 2017 that the list needed a significant overhaul and that Norf would need to drop down the ladder as older players were gradually moved on and new top 10 picks could come in.
• Scott wanted to trade out The Big Goldie as a first round pick was on the table from another club. At that stage it looked like the Big Braydon Preuss could take over the number one ruck role. Apparently Goldie was open to it.
• Scott told BBB and Carl Delena he'd squeezed as much out of the lemon as possible.

Norf's response was as follows:

• No way we can fall down the ladder and restock,
• The list isn't that bad,
• Goldie's not going anywhere,
• Rye's recons he can delivery preliminary finals.

BBB left the club looking like a war zone. And to think he was once considered a potential candidate to become CEO of the AFL.

Thanks QB. Sounds like I had the right scenario but the wrong culprit. Absolute negligence in any case. 

[Gawndy the Great 9,011]

4 hours ago, dees189227 said:

Do you reckon he wants a few weeks off from playing in that team?

Makes you think.

[Kit Walker 225]

14 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

They need a real Coach who has a CV and respect, otherwise they are dead. 
It is Noble imo

Not sure if you are advocating sticking with Noble or not.

I think they should go for Simpson with everything this year - the backwards momentum this year has been Neeldesque horrendous.

[Jaded No More 68,867]

North were never a strong enough club to bottom out. They have a small supporter base and low membership numbers. They also don’t have big cash flow like say West Coast, Essendon or Carlton. 
I think they feared that a prolonged period at the bottom will see them collapse, so they kept striving for middle of the table mediocrity, which in the long term only made everything worse. 

They are a nothing club. They don’t have the supporter base (Richmond, Essendon, Carlton) the history (Melbourne, Geelong) or the affluence (high profile supporters/ president) for anyone to care about where they are as a club. Essendon has gotten more attention being bottom 4 this year after making finals last year, than North has being a basket case for 4 seasons now. 

 

[Demonland 71,589]

15 hours ago, gs77 said:

Horne-Francis absolutely goneski for a late forearm across the face of a GWS player after a kick. Has to be weeks surely.

Surely the AFL won’t penalise North’s only player. 

[Lucifers Hero 39,596]

Glen Archer played a big role in their downfall.  He micro managed the list cull, football department overhaul including the signing of Shaw and Noble, hiring/firing assistant coaches.  Buckley gave Archer free reign to be a defacto CEO/Football Manager.

Now they have lost their whole recruiting, list management group.  It will be a long road out of the wilderness.

It isn't a club for a newbie coach.  They need Peter Jackson and today's Roos equivalent; a 3 year senior coach who has the standing and gravitas to wear the media blowtorch while a coach-in-waiting settles in, builds the list and a decent game plan put in place.  In other words the Demon blueprint with different actors.

Edited June 12, 2022 by Lucifers Hero