CHANGES: Rd 11 vs Fremantle

[DemonWA 3,421]

In: Viney, Bedford

Out: Dunstan, Melksham (sub)

[daisycutter 28,427]

1 hour ago, John Crow Batty said:

That hard tackle on Langdon when he was vulnerable and in no position to absorb its force did not have the potential to cause injury?

i think there is some confusion here between 2 issues

the rules around what is a reportable offence are based on potential to cause injury

the rules around the actual penalties seem to be based on outcome but not potential

.....mostly

Edited May 25, 2022 by daisycutter

[goodwindees 2,117]

3 hours ago, DemonWA said:

In: Viney, Bedford

Out: Dunstan, Melksham (sub)

Would be very surprised if Selectors named Melksham as the Medical Sub in his 200th game. Shouldn’t be done and won’t be done by a Club that is getting most decisions right. 

[John Crow Batty 8,215]

2 hours ago, daisycutter said:

i think there is some confusion here between 2 issues

the rules around what is a reportable offence are based on potential to cause injury

the rules around the actual penalties seem to be based on outcome but not potential

.....mostly

Three things are certain in life: death, taxes and confusing Tribunal and MRP decisions.

[DemonSam 158]

Melksham will get his 200th this week, Goodwin likes to get those things happening and I reckon he puts the onus on them to perform or never play again. 

We stick with the know quantities until we lose then the people who aren't quite performing will be rotated.

IN: Viney, 
OUT: Dunstan, 

[whatwhat say what 18,741]

in: viney
out: dunstan

melksham gets his 200th and bedford remains the super sub

[Diamond_Jim 11,670]

24 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

in: viney
out: dunstan

melksham gets his 200th and bedford remains the super sub

This makes sense.

It marks our transition on so many levels

[Kent 2,574]

13 hours ago, DemonOX said:

If we didn’t “nurse” Jones to a premiership then I don’t see why we would “nurse” Melk” to 200 games. 

so why include him??

 

[Jaded No More 57,541]

I have a feeling we won't risk Ed. Too important and no point playing him if he's in considerable pain.

Melksham will get his 200th instead.

It will be out Dunstan in Viney. 

Bedford the sub yet again. 

[WalkingCivilWar 31,067]

Really? REALLY??? Wtf is wrong with some people?! MELKSY PLAYS FOR US!!!! Save the vomit emoji for opposition players. There’s no shortage of them. Think every single Essendon player, for starters 🤮 

[Jontee 3,624]

15 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Really? REALLY??? Wtf is wrong with some people?! MELKSY PLAYS FOR US!!!! Save the vomit emoji for opposition players. There’s no shortage of them. Think every single Essendon player, for starters 🤮 

Not a fan of the V emoji.  Often its use make me think the poster is under the influence, mis read the posting or selected the wrong emoji.  Would prefer a milder one to show disagreement.

I would prefer a pickle as in you are a dill pickle.

[WalkingCivilWar 31,067]

6 minutes ago, Jontee said:

Not a fan of the V emoji.  Often its use make me think the poster is under the influence, mis read the posting or selected the wrong emoji.  Would prefer a milder one to show disagreement.

I would prefer a pickle as in you are a dill pickle.

I think the vomit emoji has its place and purpose. But NEVER for one of our own players ffs. I’m over the disdain shown for Jake. I mean, I hated him with a passion when he played for “them” nothing personal, just comes with the territory. BUT… the nanosecond he pulled on a Melb guernsey that all changed. As it should. ❤️💙
 

Edited May 25, 2022 by WalkingCivilWar

[Lucifers Hero 36,972]

The difficulty I have with the V emoji is that it isn't clear whether they object to my comment or to a quote I have included in the post.  I find it rather disconcerting at times.

[Lucifers Hero 36,972]

Given that Goodwin said Langdon will be given right up to the game to be deemed ok, reckon he will be named in the selected team even if he is half a chance.  Then we wait.

[Jaded No More 57,541]

35 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

Given that Goodwin said Langdon will be given right up to the game to be deemed ok, reckon he will be named in the selected team even if he is half a chance.  Then we wait.

I agree, and he will likely be a late out. But they won't give Melksham the emergency position for his 200th, so the real question is, who drops out? 

[Superunknown 3,307]

Shock horror! ABC News Radio in Northern NSW this morning had massive news! The reigning premiers have Viney back in and Langdon recovered better than expected.

Beyond the good news I was shocked to have this on a station best known for soccer/rugby news.

[Longsufferingnomore 1,457]

3 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

I think the vomit emoji has its place and purpose. But NEVER for one of our own players ffs. I’m over the disdain shown for Jake. I mean, I hated him with a passion when he played for “them” nothing personal, just comes with the territory. BUT… the nanosecond he pulled on a Melb guernsey that all changed. As it should. ❤️💙
 

We can always count on you WCW to bring some clarity to some of the comments on here. The vitriol against Melksham on here is similar to that was aimed at Jay Kennedy Harris some years ago. Everyone understands that Jake is not playing to the same level as he did a couple of years ago but does that mean he should be subjected to the spiteful comments that are being made by the same old landers. As I commented when Jay was being targeted that there are family members who read the "Land" and are mortified by what was/is being said. Maybe think before typing.

Now when it comes to Collingwood - go for your life🤣

[gs77 3,270]

17 hours ago, DemonOX said:

If we didn’t “nurse” Jones to a premiership then I don’t see why we would “nurse” Melk” to 200 games. 

The more analogous situation is our "nursing" Jones to his 300 game milestone early last year, after which excepting a couple of medi subs he barely played again. I'll be surprised if we see much more of Melksham after this weekend, though I'llalways have a soft spot for him for coming to us and playing great footy that simultaneously served an "F U" to Dons fans who derided him at the time of the trade and lit up our breakthrough 2018 campaign. 

Edited May 26, 2022 by gs77

[WalkingCivilWar 31,067]

17 minutes ago, Longsufferingnomore said:

We can always count on you WCW to bring some clarity to some of the comments on here. The vitriol against Melksham on here is similar to that was aimed at Jay Kennedy Harris some years ago. Everyone understands that Jake is not playing to the same level as he did a couple of years ago but does that mean he should be subjected to the spiteful comments that are being made by the same old landers. As I commented when Jay was being targeted that there are family members who read the "Land" and are mortified by what was/is being said. Maybe think before typing.

Now when it comes to Collingwood - go for your life🤣

… and Essendon. We mustn’t forget Essendon. 😝

Thank you LSNM, nice to know someone else sees this for what it is. Vitriolic comments aimed at any of our players is nasty and serves no purpose whatsoever. Especially when it comes to Jake. He doesn’t get a fraction of the love the “shining lights” get. And that’s cool. If you’re not feeling it, you’re not feeling it. But to go to the other extreme is unacceptable!
PS: so glad I wasn’t on DL when the same treatment was being doled out to JKH. 😡

[Lucifers Hero 36,972]

7 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

… and Essendon. We mustn’t forget Essendon. 😝

Thank you LSNM, nice to know someone else sees this for what it is. Vitriolic comments aimed at any of our players is nasty and serves no purpose whatsoever. Especially when it comes to Jake. He doesn’t get a fraction of the love the “shining lights” get. And that’s cool. If you’re not feeling it, you’re not feeling it. But to go to the other extreme is unacceptable!
PS: so glad I wasn’t on DL when the same treatment was being doled out to JKH. 😡

JKH got off lightly compared to a few other players.  I won't mention them for fear of setting off a retro whipping-boy frenzy.

The red and blue is sacrosanct imv.  Wear it and the player should be respected.

Edited May 26, 2022 by Lucifers Hero

[In Harmes Way 7,477]

6 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

… and Essendon. We mustn’t forget Essendon. 😝

Thank you LSNM, nice to know someone else sees this for what it is. Vitriolic comments aimed at any of our players is nasty and serves no purpose whatsoever. Especially when it comes to Jake. He doesn’t get a fraction of the love the “shining lights” get. And that’s cool. If you’re not feeling it, you’re not feeling it. But to go to the other extreme is unacceptable!
PS: so glad I wasn’t on DL when the same treatment was being doled out to JKH. 😡

Thanks for calling it out WCW.

Milkshake always has a place in my heart for the sealer he kicked in the 2018 semi final v Hawthorn when I was just starting to get nervous. Sure he might not be best 22 for many of the reasons highlighted, but when he gets an opportunity and plays he invariably pops up and does something really good. I hope he plays, has a ripper 200th and is rightly celebrated for the body of his overall work.

[DubDee 20,320]

5 hours ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Really? REALLY??? Wtf is wrong with some people?! MELKSY PLAYS FOR US!!!! Save the vomit emoji for opposition players. There’s no shortage of them. Think every single Essendon player, for starters 🤮 

Slightly contradicting there WCW. I will celebrate Milkshakes 86th game for MFC on the weekend. The games for the cheats mean nothing to me. BTW I think the vom emoji are either for the poster suggesting Melk gets dropped or the idea of the club nursing a player to a milestone.  I am one that think players should earn every game on merit, not gifted to them aside from exceptional circumstances (a club legend getting to 300 when the result does not matter)

I don't have a problem with Melk, although I am disappointed he hasn't played better footy during his peak/older years as he showed great potential early. He is still the best kick in the team as he can do it on both sides. Just doesn't get the ball enough or pressure enough

[Deemania since 56 6,118]

54 minutes ago, In Harmes Way said:

Thanks for calling it out WCW.

Milkshake always has a place in my heart for the sealer he kicked in the 2018 semi final v Hawthorn when I was just starting to get nervous. Sure he might not be best 22 for many of the reasons highlighted, but when he gets an opportunity and plays he invariably pops up and does something really good. I hope he plays, has a ripper 200th and is rightly celebrated for the body of his overall work.

Tend to agree, provided he brings his best game and a real desire to pop a few through the big sticks. A little 200th game 'mongrel' would help his cause, as well. He has the experience to add to our team - not be carried by the team.

 

[WalkingCivilWar 31,067]

23 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Slightly contradicting there WCW. I will celebrate Milkshakes 86th game for MFC on the weekend. The games for the cheats mean nothing to me. BTW I think the vom emoji are either for the poster suggesting Melk gets dropped or the idea of the club nursing a player to a milestone.  I am one that think players should earn every game on merit, not gifted to them aside from exceptional circumstances (a club legend getting to 300 when the result does not matter)

I don't have a problem with Melk, although I am disappointed he hasn't played better footy during his peak/older years as he showed great potential early. He is still the best kick in the team as he can do it on both sides. Just doesn't get the ball enough or pressure enough

And that’s fine. That’s how you see it. But there’s critique and there’s criticism. Further breaking it down, there’s constructive criticism and there’s destructive criticism. And at the bottom of it all, there’s straight up malicious insults. 

PS: re the second bolded bit above. I’m sure no one is as disappointed as he is. Some on here talk like he is deliberately not playing well. 

PPS: Were you happy to count BBBs North games in his tally of 150?

PPS: I fail to see how I’m being contradictory. Feel free to enlighten me. 😃

Edited May 26, 2022 by WalkingCivilWar

[DubDee 20,320]

33 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

And that’s fine. That’s how you see it. But there’s critique and there’s criticism. Further breaking it down, there’s constructive criticism and there’s destructive criticism. And at the bottom of it all, there’s straight up malicious insults. 

PS: re the second bolded bit above. I’m sure no one is as disappointed as he is. Some on here talk like he is deliberately not playing well. 

PPS: Were you happy to count BBBs North games in his tally of 150?

PPS: I fail to see how I’m being contradictory. Feel free to enlighten me. 😃

I totally agree with regarding player abuse and destructive criticism. No place for it. 

the only slight contradiction I was referring to was never abusing players and then stating your hatred for Essendon which is where Melk played most of his games. Tongue in cheek 😋

in general, game milestones mean a lot less to me when most of the games where played elsewhere. Might be just me