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5 hours ago, DemonOX said:

For once we got on the right side of the umps. 

Still cant believe we won the free kick count. 

Miracles do happen 😜

Go Dees

After watching the Pies/Bombers game, the one thing the umps in our game got right was the Stand Rule. Soon as a player with the ball moved off their line, it was called play on. 

The Grundy 50 in the last qtr was a disgrace.

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4 hours ago, Roost it far said:

In the last Richmond persisted with a spare player back all but ruling out a chance at victory. Their chaos game was no where to be seen

I noticed this too. They definitely had a mindset of stem the damage first then try to make the most of the chances. 

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8 hours ago, old dee said:

If he was drafted at 49 and called Sam Smith he would gone by now.

And if the club listened to fans, Neal Bullen and Spargo would be delisted and not premiership players

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5 hours ago, old dee said:

Mitch brown was given the push from Essendon as they judge him NQR. IMO the Weid is NQR.

If he was a higher draft pick the same would have happened by now.

I canned Spargo, in a similar time frame he has proved me wrong.

When will the Weid?

My question is when will you stop canning our players? Question their performance that’s fine. But writing young blokes off that are giving their all for the club is not great imo. You’ve been proven wrong before so maybe just support Weed?

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6 minutes ago, DubDee said:

My question is when will you stop canning our players? Question their performance that’s fine. But writing young blokes off that are giving their all for the club is not great imo. You’ve been proven wrong before so maybe just support Weed?

Do you really think that what we say on here will have any effect on a players performance either postive it negative? 

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6 minutes ago, old dee said:

Do you really think that what we say on here will have any effect on a players performance either postive it negative? 

Of course not. Just some unsolicited comments. Ignore as you wish. 

im a fan of your posts in general. Cheers DD

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4 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Of course not. Just some unsolicited comments. Ignore as you wish. 

im a fan of your posts in general. Cheers DD

All good I was originally expressing a comment about how long a player gets depending on his draft position. The earlier you are selected the longer you are kept in general. We all have theory’s and on average we are wrong however what is fan site for if not to express our views. 

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A week or so ago I forwarded my opinion that Tomlinson and Petty were about on par last year and hard to split. I'm a Redlegs fan, so have likely followed Petty a bit longer than most on here. I've always liked him, but kudos to our recruiting team and the man himself. An absolute pleasure to watch right now. So much self-assuredness and time. I didn't see it in his earlier days. I've never been particularly enamoured by any of our defenders throughout my time watching the MFC. Now we have May and Lever and Petty, the latter who could just about otherwise be one of our best ever over that period if he keeps up his current form. 

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5 hours ago, DubDee said:

And if the club listened to fans, Neal Bullen and Spargo would be delisted and not premiership players

The Club shopped ANB round at the end of 2020 season along with TMac. However there was no interest in either player from other clubs. So both stayed ... and the rest is history! 

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6 hours ago, DubDee said:

And if the club listened to fans, Neal Bullen and Spargo would be delisted and not premiership players

 

26 minutes ago, Winners at last said:

The Club shopped ANB round at the end of 2020 season along with TMac. However there was no interest in either player from other clubs. So both stayed ... and the rest is history! 

Good point. The bigger crime is those self-imposed know-it-alls who look at players and say “he will never play in a premiership” and that is absolute nonsense. Half our team are ‘playing a role’ and are what are called ‘replacement players’ as they have no elite aspect to their game that can’t be replaced with an equally dedicated and trusted player.

We had plenty of those people on here before last year.

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I get that all the team we have beaten are outside the top 8, but it’s so funny hearing people STILL use the almost exact same language of “we won’t know they’re a good team until…” I mean FFS we’re the reigning premiers and I think I’ve seen us get into 4th gear once this year, against GWS and we blew them out of the water. 

I feel like had we kicked straight on Sunday night, and beaten them by the margin it should’ve been (ie 50+ points) suddenly then people would be quaking in their boots. 

Oppo fans are saying this week we get tested, nah it’s the other way around. Every week someone plays us it’s the other team’s test. 

That said, I’m looking forward to us playing the Hawks. 

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On 4/24/2022 at 10:38 PM, deanox said:

If he can manage 287 disposals in the next 9 games (Ave 31.9) he'll beat Greg Williams (who I think was the fastest) to 4000 career disposals (139 games vs Williams's 140). That includes 17 shortened games in 2020.

I know disposals don't tell the true story of a player, but this would be a pretty impressive feat.

I haven't confirmed but I think Tom Mitchell may have actually managed this in his 137 game last year (seemingly under the radar news wise).

 

So he'd need to average 41 per game to equal him.

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I mentioned in game day but seeing it live the closing speed of our defenders is very impressive. Hunt and Smith have limitations for sure but I don't see them going out for another player who doesn't have the same ability to close down space or spoil that puts huge pressure on the opposition. 

We can wear some slip ups from those 2 but we can't replace the value of the above.

The Tomo's and maybe Hibbs become back ups and only come in for injuries.

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21 hours ago, DemonOX said:

For once we got on the right side of the umps. 

Still cant believe we won the free kick count. 

Miracles do happen 😜

Go Dees

I think on the free kick analysis thread Richmond had the worst negative imbalance, sort of the opposite of Footscray positive imbalance.

We are also negative but not by as much.

I have been saying for years that we needed to ask the umpires down to our training to ask them what we were doing wrong, maybe poor tackling technique, maybe poor disposal technique, maybe placing our head in the wrong place poor balance means Ng we are falling into tackles.

We now seem to push opponents in the side and unbalance them which affects their disposal and helps us get balanced, we don't seem to go to ground as much.

We still don't seem to get a lot of what look like obvious free kicks, maybe we are playing on more too fast or playing too slow and holding up play.

It would be an interesting conversation with umpires adviser as to why the discrepancy is si so marked between outlier teams.

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4 hours ago, Pates said:

I get that all the team we have beaten are outside the top 8, but it’s so funny hearing people STILL use the almost exact same language of “we won’t know they’re a good team until…” I mean FFS we’re the reigning premiers and I think I’ve seen us get into 4th gear once this year, against GWS and we blew them out of the water. 

I feel like had we kicked straight on Sunday night, and beaten them by the margin it should’ve been (ie 50+ points) suddenly then people would be quaking in their boots. 

Oppo fans are saying this week we get tested, nah it’s the other way around. Every week someone plays us it’s the other team’s test. 

That said, I’m looking forward to us playing the Hawks. 

It’s also important to note the ladder can be quite distorted after 6 weeks depending on who’s played whom, injuries etc. Even last year, a year where the ladder stayed relatively stable, Brisbane were 8th in round 6 having just made their way back into the 8 after early season losses, Freo were 6th, Richmond were 7th, Essendon 12th, GWS 13th, Bulldogs first. In fact no team actually sat where they finished the season inside the eight. The four changed by one team, the eight by two.
I would argue this year is even tighter than last, there’s about 6 teams outside the eight that with luck with injuries and hitting their best form could make it. There’s also a number of teams who are vulnerable, Carlton, Hawthorn, Collingwood etc. 

Also, Melbourne has literally beaten every team in the league except Collingwood over the last year, touching up GWS means the only teams we aren’t currently reigning victors against in the last game are Hawthorn (draw) and Collingwood (please, please beat them this year!).

Our early season run is like gold, it’s possible every other place within the eight could change again, with the possible exception of us and the Roos every team looks like they could be upset or upset any other any given week. If we can lock away a 3-game break inside the four over the next three weeks we can just sit back and watch the dogfight, it’s going to be epic!

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11 hours ago, Skuit said:

A week or so ago I forwarded my opinion that Tomlinson and Petty were about on par last year and hard to split. I'm a Redlegs fan, so have likely followed Petty a bit longer than most on here. I've always liked him, but kudos to our recruiting team and the man himself. An absolute pleasure to watch right now. So much self-assuredness and time. I didn't see it in his earlier days. I've never been particularly enamoured by any of our defenders throughout my time watching the MFC. Now we have May and Lever and Petty, the latter who could just about otherwise be one of our best ever over that period if he keeps up his current form. 

It has been a wonderful improvement - a sense of belonging to the team - a role to play and to perform that role really well, consistently, confidently, without hesitation. Petty has blossomed within his opportunities.

In the words of my father, '...we will get some more if it keeps up...', regarding his current form. 

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Any time in the last 30 years that a team scored the first 2 goals of the game against us, I would think it was ' Game over ' 

I don't think that any more !!

 

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I have watched the replay and ANB kicking and disposal was poor he had at least 4 getable shots at goal.

Some on this site have criticised J Smith for his handball to Lynch yet when other players have a poor handall like May in the 3rd quarter resulting in a Riewoldt goal nothing was said.

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2 minutes ago, durango said:

I have watched the replay and ANB kicking and disposal was poor he had at least 4 getable shots at goal.

Some on this site have criticised J Smith for his handball to Lynch yet when other players have a poor handall like May in the 3rd quarter resulting in a Riewoldt goal nothing was said.

Coz it’s Steven effing May…

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