On 16/11/2023 at 11:50, dazzledavey36 said:

Strange?

The club rates him purely as a rookie prospect.. not only that, he barely got enough nominations from opposition clubs to qualify for the state combine. That in itself would explain why he's rated as a rookie prospect. It's just Melbourne, bit other clubs also.

I'll happily back our gun recruiting team on this one.

I still think it’s a bit strange the Kynan was rated so low given that he’s performed so well and there could be a bit of egg on other club’s faces.

He has clean hands, great lateral movement, good vision, he’s quick enough, his disposal is acceptable, he has a great record of performance in underage competition, he’s stepped up whenever he’s gone up a level and most importantly he’s of very good character ( if we are to believe reports). Why he was only ever rated as a rookie chance I don’t know.

My suspicion is that he wasn’t rated in the top 40 or so and other clubs just let him go to us. Whatever the reason we’ve benefited from our good fortune as he’s certainly impressed, and not only in the match against Richmond but in all the preseason training where many, including me, have been impressed.

On exposed form this year he’s ahead of Langdon who was terrible against Richmond and looked totally disinterested. I reckon he’s right in the running for round zero.

7 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

I still think it’s a bit strange the Kynan was rated so low given that he’s performed so well and there could be a bit of egg on other club’s faces.

He has clean hands, great lateral movement, good vision, he’s quick enough, his disposal is acceptable, he has a great record of performance in underage competition, he’s stepped up whenever he’s gone up a level and most importantly he’s of very good character ( if we are to believe reports). Why he was only ever rated as a rookie chance I don’t know.

My suspicion is that he wasn’t rated in the top 40 or so and other clubs just let him go to us. Whatever the reason we’ve benefited from our good fortune as he’s certainly impressed, and not only in the match against Richmond but in all the preseason training where many, including me, have been impressed.

On exposed form this year he’s ahead of Langdon who was terrible against Richmond and looked totally disinterested. I reckon he’s right in the running for round zero.

I chatted with someone in the know at training a couple of weeks ago and indicated that as you suspect, opposing clubs normally let a father-son prospect slide through if they are not top-end talent, hence how we got him easily. This club contact really rated the way he plays and also commented on his character being first rate. No surprise being the son of Doggy. A lot to like about him.

 

1 hour ago, Slartibartfast said:

On exposed form this year he’s ahead of Langdon who was terrible against Richmond and looked totally disinterested. I reckon he’s right in the running for round zero.

I really hope that we don't gift games to Langdon and Hunter again this year. If the likes of Brown, Windsor and Woewodin outperform Langdon and Hunter during the pre season games, they absolutely should be selected for the Sydney game.

He must have something going for him given he was awarded VIC metro's best player in the carnival.

As for Langdon, I can't put my finger on it but he seems to have gone a bit down hill since 2021. What's the difference between 2021 Langdon and 2023 into 2024 Langdon?

He was just meh on Sunday. Not good, not bad. However he's certainly in my side for round zero. 

2 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

He must have something going for him given he was awarded VIC metro's best player in the carnival.

As for Langdon, I can't put my finger on it but he seems to have gone a bit down hill since 2021. What's the difference between 2021 Langdon and 2023 into 2024 Langdon?

He was just meh on Sunday. Not good, not bad. However he's certainly in my side for round zero. 

A mate and I were chatting about it Sunday at the game and he just seems to have lost something. I do question if he is working as hard back and forth as he did in 2021. But then maybe what they are asking of him has changed.

5 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

He must have something going for him given he was awarded VIC metro's best player in the carnival.

As for Langdon, I can't put my finger on it but he seems to have gone a bit down hill since 2021. What's the difference between 2021 Langdon and 2023 into 2024 Langdon?

He was just meh on Sunday. Not good, not bad. However he's certainly in my side for round zero. 

He cut his hair and, like Samson, lost his power. Same thing happened to Ben Brown. ☺️

Ed is definitely not the human dynamo that he was up until mid ‘22, he suffered a pretty nasty rib injury and hasn’t reached his previous heights since. It’s not that long ago when Ed was very highly rated on this site and around the club, he was discussed regularly in the Wingers club on the Gus & Gawny podcast and polled regular votes on the DLand best player award. I really hope for Langers and us that he can regain his A grade game. At 28 he should be at his peak??

On Sunday K9 showed a great ability to be where the ball was - bobbing up in deep defence, then deep forward. Composed, executes well, good game sense. Other small forwards would have raised an eyebrow? 

As for Kynan Brown I remember during draft night wondering why we frittered away picks whilst not snapping the kid up given his performance in the Coates League and Metro MVP Award winner, only me but I thought it was a bit insulting. So glad that we picked him up as he really shone on Sunday against the Tiges. Feel he will play a lot of footy for us, well done Kynan “pup” Brown.!

34 minutes ago, mauriesy said:

He cut his hair and, like Samson, lost his power. Same thing happened to Ben Brown. ☺️

If Lever had a cunning plan to shave his head, we could call him Baldrick.

I must admit I'm very excited about not only hearing how impressive Brown has been at training but also his potential going into next year.

He's clearly made a statement with the condition he's come back in but also coming 2nd in the 2km time trial which is an impressive feat for a second year player.

His form at Casey was underrated this year and I wouldn't be surprised if he's in our best 23 come the end of next year as a half forward midfielder. He is my pick to replace ANB.

Tough and quick left footer that reminds me a lot of Kieren Jack who was also a tough and honest midfielder for Sydney.

27 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I must admit I'm very excited about not only hearing how impressive Brown has been at training but also his potential going into next year.

He's clearly made a statement with the condition he's come back in but also coming 2nd in the 2km time trial which is an impressive feat for a second year player.

His form at Casey was underrated this year and I wouldn't be surprised if he's in our best 23 come the end of next year as a half forward midfielder. He is my pick to replace ANB.

Tough and quick left footer that reminds me a lot of Kieren Jack who was also a tough and honest midfielder for Sydney.

I like him more than Chandler 

51 minutes ago, adonski said:

I like him more than Chandler 

That’s just because you haven’t seen much of him yet, he has all the same weaknesses of Chandler and without the overhead marking and burst power. 

1 hour ago, dazzledavey36 said:

I must admit I'm very excited about not only hearing how impressive Brown has been at training but also his potential going into next year.

He's clearly made a statement with the condition he's come back in but also coming 2nd in the 2km time trial which is an impressive feat for a second year player.

His form at Casey was underrated this year and I wouldn't be surprised if he's in our best 23 come the end of next year as a half forward midfielder. He is my pick to replace ANB.

Tough and quick left footer that reminds me a lot of Kieren Jack who was also a tough and honest midfielder for Sydney.

Time trial result was excellent but otherwise I’m not sure where the positive reports are coming from. Pulled out of every training I’ve been to for rehab running.

I’m glad he’s having a red hot crack and keen to see more but I need to actually see him doing some main drills before I see much reason for optimism.

15 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

That’s just because you haven’t seen much of him yet, he has all the same weaknesses of Chandler and without the overhead marking and burst power. 

I meant more brunettes over blondes

3 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

That’s just because you haven’t seen much of him yet, he has all the same weaknesses of Chandler and without the overhead marking and burst power. 

So interested in what you see as Chandler's weaknesses and/or if you see him as best 22 long term material?

Personally I do rate Chandler for his general tenacity, workrate, ability to find the goals on a fairly regular basis and his reliability in nailing the set shots opportunities he gets.  If you're suggesting he's a good overhead mark for his size, then I'd agree with that too.  I also get the feeling that he's well liked around the club for his good character and willingness to do the team things.

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1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

So interested in what you see as Chandler's weaknesses and/or if you see him as best 22 long term material?

Personally I do rate Chandler for his general tenacity, workrate, ability to find the goals on a fairly regular basis and his reliability in nailing the set shots opportunities he gets.  If you're suggesting he's a good overhead mark for his size, then I'd agree with that too.  I also get the feeling that he's well liked around the club for his good character and willingness to do the team things.

I really like Chandler as a rock solid role player and probably our best young leader.

To me he just lacks that burst or high end speed to really zoom away from defenders, he can be a little fumbly and he's just not a really quick creative ball user.

He impressed me with stints on the wing at the end of the year and I wish they'd just let him have a few centre bounce attendances, his tackling should hold him in good stint and he'd give a difference mix than usual

8 hours ago, adonski said:

I like him more than Chandler 

Agree a far more complete footballer. Chin had a lack lustre second half in 2024 and will need to lift to make our best 23 in Round1.

5 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

To me he just lacks that burst or high end speed to really zoom away from defenders

He is one of, if not fastest player at the club. Top speeds in games last season were published in an article in the site.

I think people scratch around for reasons that often don’t exist to not like chin. 

FWIW;

“

Who is the fastest player in the Melbourne Demons?

 

 

Kade Chandler

 

When it came to the club's speed Demons, Kade Chandler topped the charts with a scintillating 35.2km/hr sprint recorded in Opening Round against Sydney. Caleb Windsor and Kysaiah Pickett were the other Demons to feature in the top five speeds recorded by a Melbourne player in 2024.”

33 minutes ago, The Jackson FIX said:

FWIW;

“

Who is the fastest player in the Melbourne Demons?

 

 

Kade Chandler

 

When it came to the club's speed Demons, Kade Chandler topped the charts with a scintillating 35.2km/hr sprint recorded in Opening Round against Sydney. Caleb Windsor and Kysaiah Pickett were the other Demons to feature in the top five speeds recorded by a Melbourne player in 2024.”

Ah the inconvenient truth raises its ugly head again 

Some people still think Dan Andrews was a great Premier 

We interpret facts in different ways is the moral of this story 

Big fan of Chin and everything he brings to the team. My hope for him is that he is more consistent in his football. The last 2 seasons he has started off the season really well but fades out towards the back half of the year. 

Chandler is just a jobber and the club knows it which is why he get linked to quality small forwards in the draft each year (Watson, Berry)

11 minutes ago, adonski said:

Chandler is just a jobber and the club knows it which is why he get linked to quality small forwards in the draft each year (Watson, Berry)

Difficult to follow your point. Chandler is obviously being considered for a leadership role by the club.

54 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

Difficult to follow your point. Chandler is obviously being considered for a leadership role by the club.

Doubly difficult given being 'linked to quality small forwards in the draft each year' is a strange evidence to use to suggest the club thinks Chandler is a 'jobber'.

For one thing he is more a flanker than a crumbing forward in the Watson mold.

And in Koz we already have arguably the best small forward in the AFL.

But 'being linked' to players in the draft is not the same as actually selecting a particular player or player type.

I mean, we had two high and one late draft pick this year so could have used one to actually select a small forward if we really wanted one.

But didn't. 

Perhaps that is evidence the club thinks Chandler is the best small forward in the AFL.

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