13 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

The writing was on the wall once he 'only' signed for 1 year in 2020.

I am confident that if the  MFC rated him as the unicorn, surely they would have offered a longer contract extension?

They did. 

I don't mind him going so much as walking away thinking we didn't even get a top 10 pick for him

1 minute ago, Norm Smith's Curse said:

I don't mind him going so much as walking away thinking we didn't even get a top 10 pick for him

He didn't do us any favours serving up that tripe in the finals against Swans & Lions. 

13 hours ago, Demonsterative said:

I kinda of find the “mummies boy’, ‘going home to mommy’ thing frustrating! Having a close family (chosen or biological) is great thing IMO. Why not wanna be close to your loved ones?
 

If you can’t relate, pity you 😔

Your “pity” is patronising and offensive to those who maybe can’t relate. 
 

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

I wasn’t happy with how he or his manager handled themselves and the last 24 hours have not changed my mind. 
The only reason more supporters aren’t angry about this charade is because we won a flag last year with Jackson playing a big part. But guess what, we would have won it even without him. Would he have been a RS, a premiership player or gotten a $7,000,000 contract without Melbourne? No he wouldn’t have. Seems ungrateful. 
 

Don’t wish him ill of course, but don’t wish him luck either. The grass isn’t always greener Jackson. 
Enjoy the WA bubble. You’ll sure as hell want to perform now!

Don't disagree with that, I am definitely calmer than other departures we've had. While I'm not 100% happy with the deal or how this has gone down it is a much better place to be in than pre 2021 mentally and that extra 10% of bitterness I used to carry round isn't there anymore. 

We have a great list and can challenge without Jackson, players we have retained all make up the body of a great cake. Luke was great but when it comes down to it he was icing on the cake, at this point of his career anyway. Will always looik fondly on his time here but I'm hoping he doesn't set the world on fire at Freo. 

1 hour ago, Stiff Arm said:

So...

Met directly with Freo mid year in-contract with MFC ❌

Said later in the year he hadn't thought too much about a new contract and was focused on footy ❌

Once Dogga indicated he was returning to WA was open to either club ❌

MFC said during trade time the Dogga hadn't indicated which club ❌

Honestly, what a dumb [censored] Dogga is. Surely his manager would've told him emphatically to not say anything too revealing, just thank MFC and the fans, say he's happy to be home and that he looks forward to playing footy next year. Amongst the most stupid things he could've said was that he met with Freo mid year and decided then that he was leaving to go there

Most of it was pretty standard stuff but I cannot for the life of me understand why he said he met with Freo mid year. Say what you want about Scully but at least he knew how to play the system and say all the right things. 

Anyone know which players this bloke manages?

44 minutes ago, mmwd6 said:

Could've got 8, Cerra --> Jackson, 2nd rounder....

I'm happy with the deal that we ended up getting

There was what he was actually worth vs a truckload of potential and/or what we originally paid for Jackson (pick 3)

In raw terms an underperforming player with no more than C+ output wouldn't normally attract 2 x first rounders and a 2nd rounder

Not even close

At one stage I fell into the hype of generational talent but is that really going to happen?  I've changed my mind on his future worth and  reckon his best might be B or B+ (or less)

This year he learned very quickly that opposition ruckman play for keeps. He lacked physicality and lacked presence

For a supposed prototype midfielder of the future, he fell way short

 

Edited October 10, 20223 yr by Macca

I know Jacko is the better player, but emotionally I’m more upset at losing Weid.

Poor outcome.  Rolled over on this and be lucky if we get a pick at 15 or so once the academy picks play out.  Just hope we don't cave on the Grundy trade as well and end up giving them pick 13.

Shouldve been two 1sts or no deal...send to the PSD!

Very poor results so far at the trade table.

Have lost speed and skills / finess (Hunt / Bedford) which is exactly what we need more of (Hunt borderline but still cant afford to lose speed across HB... who's his replacement?) in 2023 for a lumbering Ruckman who may or may not be capable of bringing his best from a few seasons back.  Even if he does get back to somewhere near his best we have not really gained anything with the loss of Jackson in 2023 for not much immediate return.  Neautral outcome in this area at best.

The only real potential shining light at this point is the entre' of JVR but can't expect miracles from the youngster in his first season.

Expect we might just scrape into the eight in 2023 but that's about it.  Plenty of teams going past us now (list wise).

This is what happens when you don't utilise your list throughout the year and find out who's up for the challenge and who isn't (at senior level).

2021 a great year for SG & the FD

2022 Great start / first half but poor finish and list poorly managed in general by SG & the FD IMV.  Also some of the boys (including leaders/more senior blokes) talked too much talk and didn't walk the walk in the back half.  Complacency set in a little IMO.

Edited October 10, 20223 yr by Demon Dynasty

Can we finally stop bagging Jackson.

He is a very good player that will get even better, we all know that. He served us as well as any young big man could given he was still only 20yo when he played his last game with us. We don't all appreciate that.

He is a kid that wants to go home to family and play with the club he barracked for.  He is one of the 23 Premiersip players in the picture I have on my wall and I will be eternally grateful for that. 

Are we allowed to boo Luke now?

Can't wait for the moving on part of this process to happen. 

15 hours ago, Demonsterative said:

I kinda of find the “mummies boy’, ‘going home to mommy’ thing frustrating!

It's fair enough he wants to go home because he's been playing football in Mozambique 

14 minutes ago, Palace Dees said:

Can we finally stop bagging Jackson.

He is a very good player that will get even better, we all know that. He served us as well as any young big man could given he was still only 20yo when he played his last game with us. We don't all appreciate that.

He is a kid that wants to go home to family and play with the club he barracked for.  He is one of the 23 Premiersip players in the picture I have on my wall and I will be eternally grateful for that. 

Absolutely agree with this sentiment. A premiership hero of the MFC

24 minutes ago, layzie said:

Can't wait for the moving on part of this process to happen. 

I hope we don’t move on till we reach 300 pages - then let’s burn it.  300 pages of questionable quality at best. Kind of reflective of LJ’s last half of the season.

 

I truly believe the club did not handle the Jackson deal well.  We got way unders in my view.  Let's see what happens now with the little remaining trade period and draft.

4 hours ago, deegirl said:

Rude & rude.  Coming from someone I'm guessing hasn't set foot in either.

Yes I was rude and no haven't been to Sydney and ain't going there either. My Dad lives in Deer Park so maybe that counts as the Western Suburbs. I get the bus from Sunshine. Don't worry i live in a part of Casey that most Melbourne supporters wouldn't want to be seen dead in. 

3 hours ago, Macca said:

I'm happy with the deal that we ended up getting

There was what he was actually worth vs a truckload of potential and/or what we originally paid for Jackson (pick 3)

In raw terms an underperforming player with no more than C+ output wouldn't normally attract 2 x first rounders and a 2nd rounder

Not even close

At one stage I fell into the hype of generational talent but is that really going to happen?  I've changed my mind on his future worth and  reckon his best might be B or B+ (or less)

This year he learned very quickly that opposition ruckman play for keeps. He lacked physicality and lacked presence

For a supposed prototype midfielder of the future, he fell way short

 

How many 20 year olds play in the ruck at AFL level? Most'll still be developing at VFL level till their mid 20s.

One thing this whole saga does prove. Our jumper is so much better than theirs and everyone elses 😉

40 minutes ago, I'va Worn Smith said:

I truly believe the club did not handle the Jackson deal well.  We got way unders in my view.  Let's see what happens now with the little remaining trade period and draft.

What would you have done differently to make Freo pony up more draft assets? 

Compare the pair … all class from Hunty

LJ on trade radio right now.

55 minutes ago, Palace Dees said:

Can we finally stop bagging Jackson.

He is a very good player that will get even better, we all know that. He served us as well as any young big man could given he was still only 20yo when he played his last game with us. We don't all appreciate that.

He is a kid that wants to go home to family and play with the club he barracked for.  He is one of the 23 Premiersip players in the picture I have on my wall and I will be eternally grateful for that. 

I think a lot of good will perished with the report that he’d toured the Dockers facilities and made up his mind to go there, halfway through the season. 

People will get over it, but it wasn’t the classiest move.