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Farewell Luke Jackson

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4 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

His mother’s comments only further solidify my thinking that Jackson is not making the decisions, his family is. It annoys me no end that this was clearly always on the cards for Jackson and yet we missed out on Cerra last year when Freo had a much better trade position. 

WA is a fishbowl. Very few go back on giant contracts and with big expectations and succeed. Kelly. Hogan. The list goes on and on. 
 

I guess a few posters owe @Grand New Flag an apology 

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    1 minute ago, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

    I guess a few posters owe @Grand New Flag an apology 

    If apologies were meant to be given out for every time someone did wrong to someone on here we'd have to rename DL Vatican City!

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    42 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Isn't that JVR's role? 

    Wouldn't we be better off chasing a BBrown type forward rather than Cadman?

    Yeah, probably. It'd be nice to have both and another Brown.

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    3 minutes ago, A F said:

    Yeah, probably. It'd be nice to have both and another Brown.

    Do you think we should chase the picks to get Cadman?

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    Jon Ralph has revealed our "mega asking price" in the Heraldsun:

    "Melbourne will begin negotiations over a trade for Luke Jackson demanding the king-sized ransom of two top-10 selections and with Fremantle the overwhelming favourite to secure his services."

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    The fish bowl afl life in WA will eat him aliive if he doesnt fire.Hogan wanted to go home for family reasons ,look where he ended up

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    21 minutes ago, Lucifers Hero said:

    Do you think we should chase the picks to get Cadman?

    I don't know enough about Cadman unfortunately mate.

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    15 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

    Jon Ralph has revealed our "mega asking price" in the Heraldsun:

    "Melbourne will begin negotiations over a trade for Luke Jackson demanding the king-sized ransom of two top-10 selections and with Fremantle the overwhelming favourite to secure his services."

    And so we should. He’s not even 21 and he’s already a premiership player and rising star winner. We invested heavily in him and did all the early work to develop him under the best ruckman in the game. If you think he’s worth the same wage as Max Gawn is earning then he’s also worth two top 10 picks. 

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    Richardson on the news said we will want to replace both talent and position. Indicates Grundy? 

    I think after the Coaches and Richardson review the season (including a brief by the Recruiting and List management) they will know what they want.

    It is pretty obvious that we need a ruck replacement. Either Grundy, or another via trade.

    Looks like a shootout between Freo and WCE which is good for us.. Two top 10's or equivalent would be good. One for the Mags and one for us.

    Cadman looks good but there are a few talented KP's in the draft that could also be ok.

     

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    18 minutes ago, wheaters31 said:

    Jon Ralph has revealed our "mega asking price" in the Heraldsun:

    "Melbourne will begin negotiations over a trade for Luke Jackson demanding the king-sized ransom of two top-10 selections and with Fremantle the overwhelming favourite to secure his services."

    Lovely but Freo simply can't deliver two top tens

    Will WCE blink

    As they say in the classics "This trade could constipate the trading period"

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    3 minutes ago, manny100 said:

    Richardson on the news said we will want to replace both talent and position. Indicates Grundy? 

    I think after the Coaches and Richardson review the season (including a brief by the Recruiting and List management) they will know what they want.

    It is pretty obvious that we need a ruck replacement. Either Grundy, or another via trade.

    Looks like a shootout between Freo and WCE which is good for us.. Two top 10's or equivalent would be good. One for the Mags and one for us.

    Cadman looks good but there are a few talented KP's in the draft that could also be ok.

     

    We will not give a top 10 pick for Grundy

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    15 minutes ago, manny100 said:

    Richardson on the news said we will want to replace both talent and position. Indicates Grundy? 

    I think after the Coaches and Richardson review the season (including a brief by the Recruiting and List management) they will know what they want.

    It is pretty obvious that we need a ruck replacement. Either Grundy, or another via trade.

    Looks like a shootout between Freo and WCE which is good for us.. Two top 10's or equivalent would be good. One for the Mags and one for us.

    Cadman looks good but there are a few talented KP's in the draft that could also be ok.

     

    If we managed to stooge two top 10 picks then gave up one for Grundy I’d just about cry.

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    1 minute ago, Undeeterred said:

    Well WCE can F off if they’re not coughing up pick 2!

    They can split that pick with another club. It’s not all over. It’s barely even started. 

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    We'll always have that magical 10 minute period in the 3rd quarter of the grand final but let's get a couple of great picks for him and use them to bolster our 16-22 player zone that consistently has let us down this year.

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    12 minutes ago, Crystal Dees said:

    We will not give a top 10 pick for Grundy

    Probably right, what we pay for Grundy if we want him will be related to the amount the Mags are willing to chip in. Likely closer to pick 15 to 20. I am not completely sold on Grundy. 

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    14 minutes ago, Crystal Dees said:

    We will not give a top 10 pick for Grundy

    Certainly hope not. Pies are in pain over his total salary.,   They signed the contract , stuff them 

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    1 minute ago, Jaded No More said:

    They can split that pick with another club. It’s not all over. It’s barely even started. 

    Of course

    The reporting doesn’t sound like that’s what they are up for doing, although of course that’s possibly just an early negotiating position. But if they start with 20 and something else, we’d be mad to cop that. 

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    I don’t know the first thing about trades. What happens if we don’t accept any offers from the other clubs? Do we just lose him for essentially nothing?

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    Just now, Phil C said:

    I don’t know the first thing about trades. What happens if we don’t accept any offers from the other clubs? Do we just lose him for essentially nothing?

    He will walk into the PSD and get picked up by North or he will sign on with us. 
    Neither of these things will happen tho. 

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    It could be:

    melb in: Pick 5, pick 14, Grundy pick 26; out Jackson,

    wce: in jackson, out picks 2, 26

    Adelaide: in rankin, out pick 5, f2nd

    gcs: in pick 2, F2nd; out 7, rankin

    sydney: in pick 7; out 14, pick 17

    collingwood: in pick 17; out Grundy + $350k per year of his contract

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    Taking Jackson unlocked a 2021 premiership but in my view  got in the way of our best centre and forward mix this year. Will be interested to see how he polls in the B&F, particularly second half of the year. I have no issue with Jackson wanting home as long as he allows us to get a deal that is reasonable for the investment we have made in him. If we play this right, which we have a habit of doing, two top 10 picks (which Jason Taylor will nail)  and the space to milk Grundy on the cheap could really set us up for 2023 and beyond. 

    Edited by Lil_red_fire_engine

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    25 minutes ago, manny100 said:

    Richardson on the news said we will want to replace both talent and position. Indicates Grundy? 

    I think after the Coaches and Richardson review the season (including a brief by the Recruiting and List management) they will know what they want.

    It is pretty obvious that we need a ruck replacement. Either Grundy, or another via trade.

    Looks like a shootout between Freo and WCE which is good for us.. Two top 10's or equivalent would be good. One for the Mags and one for us.

    Cadman looks good but there are a few talented KP's in the draft that could also be ok.

     

    If we gave up a  top 10 pick up for Grundy I would take a Big Ben Brown style run up and kick Tim Lamb in the bollocks……….really, really hard.

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    Sorry to see Jackson go. He will always be remembered as a immortal 22 in 21 when we blitz the dogs and won the premiership.

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